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Greetings. I see no need to merge this with [[Ecotheology]]. This article may cover may aspects of religion other than theology. For instance, it may cover religious ethics, prayer, holy sites, and religious law. Furthermore, as noted in the current lead, it's an academic discipline different than ecotheology. Since I haven't seen any other discussion of the merger question, at either article, I'm inclined to remove the tag. Thanks. [[User:HG|HG]] | [[User talk:HG|Talk]] 17:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


== Neutrality tag ==
== Splitting proposal ==


I propose to split the Buddhism section into a new article called [[Environmentalism in Buddhism]], or [[Buddhist environmentalism]]. It's already a lengthy subsection and well sourced section and probably a big enough topic to be its own article. [[User:Arcahaeoindris|Arcahaeoindris]] ([[User talk:Arcahaeoindris|talk]]) 20:39, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi. It would be helpful if whoever added the POV tag would explain the reasons for the tag. Otherwise, it's hard for other editors to know what you think needs to be addressed. Please cite specific neutrality problems. Thanks. [[User:HG|HG]] | [[User talk:HG|Talk]] 04:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

The article doesn't address the [[cornucopian]] perspective on the issues surrounding religion and ecology. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.217.6.3|68.217.6.3]] ([[User talk:68.217.6.3|talk]]) 05:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Thanks for your reply. I suppose two follow-up q's would be in order. Where in the article do you think this perspective should be added (or where is it missing)? How is this perspective articulated by or about religions, so that it would fit within the religious aspect of this topic? Thanks. [[User:HG|HG]] | [[User talk:HG|Talk]] 05:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

::I'm not the OP, but I'm fairly certain that the cornucopian view is evident within several Christian traditions, at least historically, if not presently in some as well. However, I don't think that view is particularly religious/faith-based in origin, but rather a product of differing economic views regarding resource sustainability that come from more secular origins. I'm not sure how much of a stretch it would be or how much digging would have to be done to make a non-spurious connection between one's economic views and one's religion. Because, certainly, there are atheist cornucopians. [[User:LaMenta3|LaMenta3]] ([[User talk:LaMenta3|talk]]) 20:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

==Rename to "Religion and environmentalism"==
Ecology is the study of [[ecosystem]]s. [[Environmentalism]] is the social movement. The latter is the more approp description of the article. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Alan Liefting|Alan Liefting]] ([[User talk:Alan Liefting|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Alan Liefting|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

== [[Dominionism]] ==

It's being used in a correct manner, but our article is wrong, making the link confusing. — [[User:Arthur Rubin|Arthur Rubin]] [[User talk:Arthur Rubin|(talk)]] 00:11, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry, removing [[Biblical]] was a mistake. — [[User:Arthur Rubin|Arthur Rubin]] [[User talk:Arthur Rubin|(talk)]] 01:06, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== [[Environmental ethics]] ==

Why are:

* [[Biocentrism (ethics)]]
* [[Climate ethics]]
* [[Conservation (ethic)]]

in this article? They fit more into [[environmental ethics]] than here. A link to [[environmental ethics]] seems to fit better, anyway. — [[User:Arthur Rubin|Arthur Rubin]] [[User talk:Arthur Rubin|(talk)]] 01:06, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

:Still no arguments for inclusion. Gone. — [[User:Arthur Rubin|Arthur Rubin]] [[User talk:Arthur Rubin|(talk)]] 16:41, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::[[Ethics in religion]] not direct enough [[Special:Contributions/97.87.29.188|97.87.29.188]] ([[User talk:97.87.29.188|talk]]) 21:31, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
:::No. If A relates to B, B relates to C, and A relates to C only through B, then "A" should not be in "C". — [[User:Arthur Rubin|Arthur Rubin]] [[User talk:Arthur Rubin|(talk)]] 07:10, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
:::OK, thank you [[Special:Contributions/97.87.29.188]]. [[Special:Contributions/99.112.214.106|99.112.214.106]] ([[User talk:99.112.214.106|talk]]) 01:00, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

==Other Religions==
This page is a bit bereft if it is to give an overview of religions and the environment.
* Where is the Sikh contribution?
* Where is the Parsee (Zoroastrian) contribution?
* Where is the Confucian contribution?
--[[User:Whiteguru|Whiteguru]] ([[User talk:Whiteguru|talk]]) 10:16, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
:Feel free to contribute content with appropriate references ... here is a starter: [[Zoroastrianism]]. [[Special:Contributions/99.181.137.224|99.181.137.224]] ([[User talk:99.181.137.224|talk]]) 03:13, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
:Here is the current [[Parsi]] (Parsee). [[Special:Contributions/99.190.86.162|99.190.86.162]] ([[User talk:99.190.86.162|talk]]) 23:28, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
:And [[Sikh]]. [[Special:Contributions/99.109.124.167|99.109.124.167]] ([[User talk:99.109.124.167|talk]]) 02:37, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
:Isn't [[Confucianism]] more [[ethical]] philosophy, than a religion per se? [[Special:Contributions/216.250.156.66|216.250.156.66]] ([[User talk:216.250.156.66|talk]]) 19:21, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
::Agreed, but it depends on how religion is defined. I suggest that we stick to the definition whereby it is a religion if there is a deity involved. -- [[User:Alan Liefting|Alan Liefting]] ([[User_talk:Alan_Liefting|talk]]) - 02:11, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
:That is just due to the nature of how Wikipedia develops. We must also be careful to not give topic areas [[WP:UNDUE|undue weight]]. -- [[User:Alan Liefting|Alan Liefting]] ([[User_talk:Alan_Liefting|talk]]) - 02:08, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
:::Agreed, a [[Theism]]/[[polytheism]] limit would be more clear. [[Confucianism#Debate_over_classification|Confucianism's classification is debatable]], but would seem to need special attention ... [[Confucianism and environmentalism]] perhaps, or maybe just Environmentalism by [[Nation state]], since governments potentially create and enforce regulation. [[Special:Contributions/97.87.29.188|97.87.29.188]] ([[User talk:97.87.29.188|talk]]) 20:42, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

== [[Mormonism]] a subsection of Christianity section? ==

[[Mormonism]] a subsection of Christianity section?
* [[Mormonism and Christianity]]
* [[Mormonism#Relation_to_Christianity]]
Some notable figure examples: [[Mitt Romney]] and [[Jon Huntsman, Jr.]]
[[Special:Contributions/99.181.138.36|99.181.138.36]] ([[User talk:99.181.138.36|talk]]) 03:22, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
:Diversity will be need, i.e. other than [[Republican Party (United States)|Republicans]] running in the [[United States presidential election, 2012]] ... [[Special:Contributions/99.181.139.223|99.181.139.223]] ([[User talk:99.181.139.223|talk]]) 16:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
::Any suggestions? [[Special:Contributions/64.27.194.74|64.27.194.74]] ([[User talk:64.27.194.74|talk]]) 20:39, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
:::Seperate section doesn't imply lineage one way or another. If this article grows then grouping may be necessary for clarity. [[Special:Contributions/97.87.29.188|97.87.29.188]] ([[User talk:97.87.29.188|talk]]) 00:13, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
::::Who else might have this combination within the wp-ome? [[Special:Contributions/99.181.156.11|99.181.156.11]] ([[User talk:99.181.156.11|talk]]) 02:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
:::::Maybe instead of [[Omics]], a -[[Sphere (disambiguation)|sphere]], as mentioned on the [[ManBearPig]] article? ''[[Wiki|W]][[Wikipedia|p]]-sphere''. [[Special:Contributions/99.181.150.29|99.181.150.29]] ([[User talk:99.181.150.29|talk]]) 03:50, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
:Is a section going to be added? If so, it will need references/sources, etc... 21:12, 10 October 2011 (UTC) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/97.87.29.188|97.87.29.188]] ([[User talk:97.87.29.188|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::I don't know, but these would be more specific: [[Jon Huntsman presidential campaign, 2012]], [[Mitt Romney presidential campaign, 2012]], and [[Political positions of Mitt Romney]]. I would see this article as for [[Religious denomination]] leaders, not [[Political leader]]; assuming a form of [[Separation of church and state]]. [[Special:Contributions/99.109.126.95|99.109.126.95]] ([[User talk:99.109.126.95|talk]]) 03:12, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

== [[Journal for the Study of Religion, Nature, and Culture]] ==

Redlink. [[Special:Contributions/99.181.152.94|99.181.152.94]] ([[User talk:99.181.152.94|talk]]) 06:11, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
:Exactly. per [[WP:REDLINK]] — [[User:Arthur Rubin|Arthur Rubin]] [[User talk:Arthur Rubin|(talk)]] 04:54, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

== A Brief Review ==
[[User:Bmkitula|Bmkitula]] ([[User talk:Bmkitula|talk]]) 02:46, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
The article is really interesting and informative, I would like to point out that there are a few changes that should be made so as to make the article better.I will give a description of some of the suggestions that I think would be helpful in point form and how the article will look like in the end.

-The article needs more citations which I would like to add.

-I think that the information under the headings;Crisis of values, burden of guilt, Eastern Religions and Indigenous peoples, Religion and ecology, and Religion and nature are relevant but do not need to be in the article.I plan on omitting these parts.

-I also think that it would be better to only focus on what the different religious think about environmentalism e.g what the different religious texts say about the topic.

-There should be a different section on what the different religions do to promote environmentalism today. I will give examples of either religious movements or organisations(current) that are involved in environmental issues and if they have had any impact.

The above should be able to show how the article can be improved.

== Contribution ==

[[User:Bmkitula|Bmkitula]] ([[User talk:Bmkitula|talk]]) 21:50, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
This is my contribution to the article so far I still have more to do,some feedback would be great

Buddhism
Buddhists today are involved in spreading environmental awareness. In a meeting with the U.S Ambassador to the Republic of India Timothy J. Roemer the Dalai Lama urged the U.S to engage China on climate change in Tibet [6]. The Dalai Lama has also been part of a series on discussions organised by the Mind and Life Institute a non profit organisation that specializes on the relationship between science and Buddhism. The talks were partly about ecology, ethics and interdependence and issues on global warming were brought up [7]

Christianity
Some Evangelical groups have been an ally to environmentalists in spreading awareness on global warming. The National Association of Evangelicals a non profit organisation are working towards encouraging lawmakers to pass a law that would put restrictions on carbon emissions in the U.S.[8]

== Peer Review ==

First off, this Wikipedia article is full of information on key religions, which is great. I think maybe there should be more than one sentence at the very beginning to try and explain the relationship between "religion" AND "environmentalism." I agree with the ideas you formulated on the talk page under "A brief review." The statement that talks about a crisis of values and how religion is seen as a primary course of values therefore it affects our decisions about nature could possibly be at the beginning of the article, because for me, it made it clear how the two words are related and what the article will eventually discuss. As for the "burden of guilt", I agree, I do not think that is exactly relevant and could be omitted.

It is interesting that there is a great deal more of information on Buddhism and less on the other religions, such as Hinduism. As you said, I think it would be important to add more examples of how religions view the environment and what they do to promote environmentalism today. This article could certainly be an ongoing project extended way past our class because religion is definitely key in many environmental decisions made today.

Overall, I think you have really great ideas and the article would most likely be classified as a "good" articles on Wikipedia.[[User:Clhen88|Clhen88]] ([[User talk:Clhen88|talk]]) 16:05, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
:Do you have any ''specific'' suggestion for improving the article? If so inclined, add them to the article. [[Special:Contributions/99.181.134.196|99.181.134.196]] ([[User talk:99.181.134.196|talk]]) 06:50, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

== [[Mormonism and Christianity]] ==

Include a clarifying reference to [[Mormonism and Christianity]] regarding [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Religion_and_environmentalism&diff=497986899&oldid=497952072].
See [[Talk:Christianity and environmentalism]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Christianity_and_environmentalism&diff=497988146&oldid=497952260 its major change without discussion on the Talk pages]. [[Special:Contributions/108.195.136.38|108.195.136.38]] ([[User talk:108.195.136.38|talk]]) 01:42, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
:I don't recall if there have been any reasons presented to include the reference, but you (and perhaps one inexperienced logged-in editor) are the only ones in favor. — [[User:Arthur Rubin|Arthur Rubin]] [[User talk:Arthur Rubin|(talk)]] 02:46, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
:The major change without discussion is by you (or one of the other IPs you are using.) — [[User:Arthur Rubin|Arthur Rubin]] [[User talk:Arthur Rubin|(talk)]] 02:47, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
::See [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Religion_and_environmentalism&diff=next&oldid=494008186] as the major change was made by [[Special:Contributions/Fat&Happy]], [[Special:Contributions/Arthur Rubin]]. [[Special:Contributions/108.73.113.91|108.73.113.91]] ([[User talk:108.73.113.91|talk]]) 07:01, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

== Requested move ==

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The result of the move request was: '''Not moved'''. [[User:Jafeluv|Jafeluv]] ([[User talk:Jafeluv|talk]]) 13:20, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

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[[Religion and environmentalism]] → {{no redirect|1=Religion and ecology}} – [[Environmentalism]] is as per the lead of that article a current philosophy, ideology, and social movement. However, there is a broader field [[ecology]] of which it is a part. That broader content does not appear to be anywhere at present, and would I think most reasonably be included in the same article. That would however I think more or less necessitate a title change. Also, one of the leading sources in the field of religion, the Lindsay Jones ''Encyclopedia of Religion,'' has its group of articles on this subject all appear under that general title. <small>''Relisted''. [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 07:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC)</small> [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 23:42, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
*'''Note'''. There were no objections to this proposal after a week, so I closed it as "moved". It was objected to on my talk page, though, so I've reopened the discussion and relisted. [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 07:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
:No. Environmentalism is a social movement which encompasses the discipline of ecology. Plus the article currently includes a "religion and ecology" section. [[User:Vsmith|Vsmith]] ([[User talk:Vsmith|talk]]) 12:57, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
::Please inform me, exactly, how a social movement "encompasses the discipline of ecology." The statement seems to be indicating that the social movement is in some way broader and more significant to an academic encyclopedia than the relevant academic discipline. I am unaware of any social movement otherwise being considered more important to an academic encyclopedia than the relevant academic discipline. In general, a social movement discusses the results of a discipline, but that does not necessarily mean that every aspect of the discipline, which is what "encompasses" means, is necessarily neutrally reflected in the movement. Also, although I admit that the ''Encyclopedia of Religion'' is only a single academic reference source, it is at least one such, and I think [[WP:NAME]] might suggest using the title of their relevant article until and unless other sources are presented to indicate that the alternative is the most common name. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 20:28, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Yup, that "encompasses" bit does need clarification it seems. The "movement" includes the various aspects of "environment" - one of which is ecology. However, the movement is broader and includes more than is covered by the "discipline" of ecology. [[User:Vsmith|Vsmith]] ([[User talk:Vsmith|talk]]) 23:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
*I '''oppose''' the page move but there is a need for a note to made in the article that the quite different terms of [[ecology]] and [[environmentalism]] are used interchangeably. To call the discipline ''religion and ecology'' is "sloppy" use of language and unbecoming of academia and, by extension, an encyclopaedia. -- [[User:Alan Liefting|Alan Liefting]] ([[User_talk:Alan_Liefting|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Alan_Liefting|contribs]]) 20:37, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
:*I don't think anyone was intending to call the discipline "religion and ecology," actually. I think the term "ecology" is used in at least some cases to describe the discipline, and "religion and ecology" would describe the interaction of the two fields. However, I do agree that it would be very useful if at the very least there were to be some clearer consistency in the usage of the two words ecology and environmentalism. Also, alternately, the title "religion and the environment" might be more neutral than the current title as well. Environmentalism, as such, is a movement which, like all movements, has some specific goals, and I am not sure that each and every one of those goals is necessarily agreed upon as useful or necessary by the academic community, which seems to be implied in placing priority on the social, not necessarily scientific, "environmentalism" movement. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 20:50, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

::*Yep, yep. I was going to mention the "religion and environment" option. It is an even broader brief. -- [[User:Alan Liefting|Alan Liefting]] ([[User_talk:Alan_Liefting|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Alan_Liefting|contribs]]) 21:06, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Environmentalism is a political ideology, whereas ecology is a science. This article seems to deal almost entirely with the former, even when the latter term is used. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD|talk]]) 17:42, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
:*You may have a point regarding the current structure of the article. My only question is whether there is sufficient content and notability for separate articles about religion and environmentalism and an article on the aspects of religion and environment which are not tied to that political ideology. If there isn't, and I'm not sure there is, then I would think one of the other titles might be preferable. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 17:53, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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Splitting proposal

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I propose to split the Buddhism section into a new article called Environmentalism in Buddhism, or Buddhist environmentalism. It's already a lengthy subsection and well sourced section and probably a big enough topic to be its own article. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 20:39, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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