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Citation for the (alleged) child molester Jimmy Savile's Athenaeum membership. It would be a shame if he were removed from the list of the notables, I'm sure he fitted in! Please can someone update the main page, as I'm not terribly familiar with editing Wikipedia... |
Citation for the (alleged) child molester Jimmy Savile's Athenaeum membership. It would be a shame if he were removed from the list of the notables, I'm sure he fitted in! Please can someone update the main page, as I'm not terribly familiar with editing Wikipedia... |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/celebritynews/9596850/Sir-Jimmy-Savile-causes-anguish-at-the-Athenaeum.html |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/celebritynews/9596850/Sir-Jimmy-Savile-causes-anguish-at-the-Athenaeum.html <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.159.89.6|81.159.89.6]] ([[User talk:81.159.89.6|talk]]) 19:15, 13 October 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Another citation The Telegraph, 21 October 2012 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9623780/Edwina-Currie-I-have-nothing-to-hide-over-Jimmy-Savile.html states that: |
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"Following Savile’s appointment at Broadmoor, Alan Franey, an administrator who spent 10 years working at Leeds General Infirmary, also began work on the same taskforce, with progress to be reported to Mrs Currie. |
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In a book about psychiatric care, Mr Franey described having “an unusual meeting” with health officials in the Athenaeum Club in London, where his new role on the temporary taskforce was proposed. |
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He neglected to mention in the book that Savile, who was a member of the Athenaeum, was also present. When asked by The Sunday Telegraph if Savile was also there, Mr Franey agreed." |
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<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9623780/Edwina-Currie-I-have-nothing-to-hide-over-Jimmy-Savile.html|accessdate=Monday 29 October 2012|newspaper=The Telegraph|date=21 October 2012}}</ref> |
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The book The Telegraph article is referencing is "Managing High Security Psychiatric Care", Edited by Charles Kaye and Alan Franey (1998) ISBN: 978-1-85302-581-5 |
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At pp34 - 35 Alan Franey describes the meeting itself (available to view on Amazon.co.uk here http://www.amazon.co.uk/Managing-Security-Psychiatric-Forensic-ebook/dp/B0079J2FXK) |
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--[[User:MonicaCognomen|MonicaCognomen]] ([[User talk:MonicaCognomen|talk]]) 23:09, 29 October 2012 (UTC) |
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== It's should still read Sir Jimmy Savile == |
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Can somone add in a section on Jimmy Savile membership, please. Make sure article is balanced and sourced. Plenty of stories in Uk media. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/31.52.149.8|31.52.149.8]] ([[User talk:31.52.149.8|talk]]) 09:29, 27 October 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Notable members== |
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This is a small selection of the notable people who have belonged to the club: |
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*The [[George Hamilton-Gordon, 4th Earl of Aberdeen|Earl of Aberdeen]] |
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*[[Augustus Agar]], naval hero |
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*[[Matthew Arnold]] |
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*[[H. H. Asquith]] |
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*[[Andrew Geddes Bain]] geologist, road engineer, palaeontologist and explorer |
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*[[Owen Barfield]] (1898–1997) philosopher, poet, etymologist, and solicitor |
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*[[J. M. Barrie]] |
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*[[Anthony Blunt]] |
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*[[Louis Lucien Bonaparte]], linguist |
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*[[Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone]], politician and headhunter |
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*[[L. J. F. Brimble]], botanist and editor of ''[[Nature (journal)|Nature]]'' magazine |
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*Lord [[Alec Broers|(Alec) Broers]] |
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*[[James Bryce, 1st Viscount Bryce]] (1838–1922), jurist, historian and politician |
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*[[Oscar Browning]] politician, historian (1837–1923) |
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*[[Sir Francis Burdett, 5th Baronet]] |
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*[[William Burges]] (1827–1881), architect and designer |
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*[[Alexander Burnes]], explorer in [[The Great Game]] |
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*[[Thomas Campbell (poet)|Thomas Campbell]] (poet) |
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*[[Edward Chapman (British Army officer)|Sir Edward Chapman]], British Army officer |
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*[[Gilbert Keith Chesterton (author)]] |
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*[[Winston Churchill]] |
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*[[John Coleridge, 1st Baron Coleridge]] (1820–1894) |
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*[[Joseph Conrad]] |
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*[[Lord Curzon]], MP, Viceroy of India, and British Foreign Secretary |
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*[[Charles Darwin]] |
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*[[Charles Dickens]] |
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*[[Isaac D'Israeli]] |
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*[[Sir Arthur Conan Doyle]] |
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*[[Laurence Dreyfus]], musician and academic |
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*[[Sir Edward Elgar]] (1857-1934) composer, Master of the King's Musick |
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*[[T. S. Eliot]] poet |
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*[[Michael Faraday]] |
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*[[John Fisher, 1st Baron Fisher]] |
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*[[Sir William Galloway]] (1840–1927) mining engineer, Professor of Mining at University College of Wales |
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*[[Victoria Glendinning]] |
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*[[Alec Guinness]] |
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*[[Baroness Hale of Richmond]], barrister, academic, Justice of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom |
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*[[Henry Hallam]] historian, Commissioner of Stamps (1826) |
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*[[Thomas Hardy]] (1840-1928), novelist |
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*[[Leonard Horner]] (1785-1864), President of the [[Geological Society]], Warden of the [[University of London]], Factory Inspector |
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*[[Basil Hume|Cardinal Basil Hume]] |
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*[[Roy Jenkins]] Chancellor of the Exchequer and Home Secretary |
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*[[Reginald Johnston|Sir Reginald Fleming Johnston]] (1874–1938), Tutor of the Last Emperor of China |
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*[[Charles Kemble]] |
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*[[Rudyard Kipling]] poet and author. |
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*[[Frederick Lindemann, 1st Viscount Cherwell]], an English physicist and wartime scientific adviser to the British government and [[Winston Churchill]] in the late 1930s, 1940s and early 1950s.<ref>{{cite book |first1=Reginald Victor |last1=Jones|authorlink1=Reginald Victor Jones |title=Most Secret War: British Scientific Intelligence 1939-1945 |publisher=Hamish Hamilton |location=London, England, UK |year=1978 |isbn=0-241-89746-7 |chapter= Chapter Thirteen: The Fortunes of Major Wintle}}</ref> |
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*[[H. F. B. Lynch]], traveller and businessman |
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*[[Walter de la Mare]] (1873–1956) |
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*[[Eric Millar]], historian of illuminated manuscripts<ref>{{cite journal | author = C. E. Wright | year = 1968 | title = Preface | journal = The British Museum Quarterly | volume = 33 | issue = 1 | pages = 1–2 | doi = 10.2307/4423012 | url = http://www.jstor.org/stable/4423012 | format = | accessdate = 10 September 2012}}</ref> |
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*[[Lord Robert Montagu]] (1825–1902) |
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*[[Thomas Moore]] (poet) |
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*Sir [[Roderick Impey Murchison]] (1792–1871), President of the [[Geological Society]] and the [[Royal Geographical Society]]. |
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*[[George Nugent-Grenville, 2nd Baron Nugent]] (1789–1850) |
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*[[Henry Temple, 3rd Viscount Palmerston|Lord Palmerston]] |
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*[[Harry St John Philby]] archaeologist and Arabist |
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*[[Kim Philby]] Soviet Spy |
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*[[Michael Polanyi]] |
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*[[Vilayanur S. Ramachandran]], Neurologist & neuroscientist |
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*[[Cecil Rhodes]] |
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*[[Emile Victor Rieu]] |
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*[[Jimmy Savile]]<ref>{{cite news|title=Sir Jimmy Savile causes anguish at the Athenaeum|url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/celebritynews/9596850/Sir-Jimmy-Savile-causes-anguish-at-the-Athenaeum.html|accessdate=30 October 2012|newspaper=The Telegraph|date=10 October 2012|author=Tim Walker}}</ref> |
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*[[Sir Walter Scott]] writer |
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*[[Idries Shah]], author on Sufism (1924–1996) |
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*[[Tahir Shah]], author |
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*[[Richard Sharp (politician)|Richard 'Conversation' Sharp]], critic, merchant and politician |
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*[[Herbert Spencer]] (1820–1903) |
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*[[Walter Starkie]] |
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*[[James Joseph Sylvester]], Mathematician |
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*[[Sir Jethro Teall]], geologist and petrologist |
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*[[William Makepeace Thackeray]] author |
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*[[Arnold J. Toynbee]] historian |
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*Professor [[Rick Trainor]], Principal of [[King's College London]] |
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*[[Anthony Trollope]], author |
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*[[J. M. W. Turner]], painter |
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*[[Sir Barnes Wallis]], engineer (1887–1979) |
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*[[Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington]] (1769–1852) |
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*[[Charles Wheatstone|Prof. Sir Charles Wheatstone]] Scientist, inventor and pioneer of the Telegraph |
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*[[W. B. Yeats]], poet |
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Athenaeum Club Members
[edit]I have information that the following person was a member of the Athenaeum Club. Austen St. Barbe Harrison (1891 – 1976) was a British architect, whose works included Nuffield College, Oxford and the Rockefeller Museum, Jerusalem. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austen_Harrison —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.167.61.186 (talk) 17:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Athenaeum today
[edit]The information and sources used are very history focused. I would like more information about how the Athenaeum Club works today. What do contemporary members tend to do in there? Just meet and chat? Are there organised lectures or other events for members? How do people become members? Is there a member fee? Can members of the public visit and, if so, for what? Dining? Entertainment? To use the library? Do visitors pay? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.138.7.35 (talk) 17:31, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
- Meet and chat, have guests for lunch or tea, use the library. There are also lectures and other events organised. Membership is by election, having a proposer and seconder among the existing membership of the club. In practice one must have achieved a certain level of notoriety or be well-acquainted with a number of existing members. There are dues. The club is not open to the public. However, some events (lectures, dinners) that take place in the clubhouse may be open to non-members. --194.98.58.121 (talk) 13:23, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Jimmy Savile citation
[edit]Citation for the (alleged) child molester Jimmy Savile's Athenaeum membership. It would be a shame if he were removed from the list of the notables, I'm sure he fitted in! Please can someone update the main page, as I'm not terribly familiar with editing Wikipedia...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/celebritynews/9596850/Sir-Jimmy-Savile-causes-anguish-at-the-Athenaeum.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.89.6 (talk) 19:15, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Another citation The Telegraph, 21 October 2012 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9623780/Edwina-Currie-I-have-nothing-to-hide-over-Jimmy-Savile.html states that:
"Following Savile’s appointment at Broadmoor, Alan Franey, an administrator who spent 10 years working at Leeds General Infirmary, also began work on the same taskforce, with progress to be reported to Mrs Currie. In a book about psychiatric care, Mr Franey described having “an unusual meeting” with health officials in the Athenaeum Club in London, where his new role on the temporary taskforce was proposed. He neglected to mention in the book that Savile, who was a member of the Athenaeum, was also present. When asked by The Sunday Telegraph if Savile was also there, Mr Franey agreed."
The book The Telegraph article is referencing is "Managing High Security Psychiatric Care", Edited by Charles Kaye and Alan Franey (1998) ISBN: 978-1-85302-581-5
At pp34 - 35 Alan Franey describes the meeting itself (available to view on Amazon.co.uk here http://www.amazon.co.uk/Managing-Security-Psychiatric-Forensic-ebook/dp/B0079J2FXK)
--MonicaCognomen (talk) 23:09, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
References
- ^ The Telegraph. 21 October 2012 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9623780/Edwina-Currie-I-have-nothing-to-hide-over-Jimmy-Savile.html. Retrieved Monday 29 October 2012.
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It's should still read Sir Jimmy Savile
[edit]Can somone add in a section on Jimmy Savile membership, please. Make sure article is balanced and sourced. Plenty of stories in Uk media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.52.149.8 (talk) 09:29, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
Notable members
[edit]Section moved to talk: unreferenced, tagged for cleanup, and no indication of why these people are listed and why they are listed in this order. RJFJR (talk) 01:15, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
{{cleanup-list|section|date=September 2012}} This is a small selection of the notable people who have belonged to the club:
- The Earl of Aberdeen
- Augustus Agar, naval hero
- Matthew Arnold
- H. H. Asquith
- Andrew Geddes Bain geologist, road engineer, palaeontologist and explorer
- Owen Barfield (1898–1997) philosopher, poet, etymologist, and solicitor
- J. M. Barrie
- Anthony Blunt
- Louis Lucien Bonaparte, linguist
- Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone, politician and headhunter
- L. J. F. Brimble, botanist and editor of Nature magazine
- Lord (Alec) Broers
- James Bryce, 1st Viscount Bryce (1838–1922), jurist, historian and politician
- Oscar Browning politician, historian (1837–1923)
- Sir Francis Burdett, 5th Baronet
- William Burges (1827–1881), architect and designer
- Alexander Burnes, explorer in The Great Game
- Thomas Campbell (poet)
- Sir Edward Chapman, British Army officer
- Gilbert Keith Chesterton (author)
- Winston Churchill
- John Coleridge, 1st Baron Coleridge (1820–1894)
- Joseph Conrad
- Lord Curzon, MP, Viceroy of India, and British Foreign Secretary
- Charles Darwin
- Charles Dickens
- Isaac D'Israeli
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
- Laurence Dreyfus, musician and academic
- Sir Edward Elgar (1857-1934) composer, Master of the King's Musick
- T. S. Eliot poet
- Michael Faraday
- John Fisher, 1st Baron Fisher
- Sir William Galloway (1840–1927) mining engineer, Professor of Mining at University College of Wales
- Victoria Glendinning
- Alec Guinness
- Baroness Hale of Richmond, barrister, academic, Justice of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom
- Henry Hallam historian, Commissioner of Stamps (1826)
- Thomas Hardy (1840-1928), novelist
- Leonard Horner (1785-1864), President of the Geological Society, Warden of the University of London, Factory Inspector
- Cardinal Basil Hume
- Roy Jenkins Chancellor of the Exchequer and Home Secretary
- Sir Reginald Fleming Johnston (1874–1938), Tutor of the Last Emperor of China
- Charles Kemble
- Rudyard Kipling poet and author.
- Frederick Lindemann, 1st Viscount Cherwell, an English physicist and wartime scientific adviser to the British government and Winston Churchill in the late 1930s, 1940s and early 1950s.[1]
- H. F. B. Lynch, traveller and businessman
- Walter de la Mare (1873–1956)
- Eric Millar, historian of illuminated manuscripts[2]
- Lord Robert Montagu (1825–1902)
- Thomas Moore (poet)
- Sir Roderick Impey Murchison (1792–1871), President of the Geological Society and the Royal Geographical Society.
- George Nugent-Grenville, 2nd Baron Nugent (1789–1850)
- Lord Palmerston
- Harry St John Philby archaeologist and Arabist
- Kim Philby Soviet Spy
- Michael Polanyi
- Vilayanur S. Ramachandran, Neurologist & neuroscientist
- Cecil Rhodes
- Emile Victor Rieu
- Jimmy Savile[3]
- Sir Walter Scott writer
- Idries Shah, author on Sufism (1924–1996)
- Tahir Shah, author
- Richard 'Conversation' Sharp, critic, merchant and politician
- Herbert Spencer (1820–1903)
- Walter Starkie
- James Joseph Sylvester, Mathematician
- Sir Jethro Teall, geologist and petrologist
- William Makepeace Thackeray author
- Arnold J. Toynbee historian
- Professor Rick Trainor, Principal of King's College London
- Anthony Trollope, author
- J. M. W. Turner, painter
- Sir Barnes Wallis, engineer (1887–1979)
- Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington (1769–1852)
- Prof. Sir Charles Wheatstone Scientist, inventor and pioneer of the Telegraph
- W. B. Yeats, poet
References
- ^ Jones, Reginald Victor (1978). "Chapter Thirteen: The Fortunes of Major Wintle". Most Secret War: British Scientific Intelligence 1939-1945. London, England, UK: Hamish Hamilton. ISBN 0-241-89746-7.
- ^ C. E. Wright (1968). "Preface". The British Museum Quarterly. 33 (1): 1–2. doi:10.2307/4423012. Retrieved 10 September 2012.
- ^ Tim Walker (10 October 2012). "Sir Jimmy Savile causes anguish at the Athenaeum". The Telegraph. Retrieved 30 October 2012.
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