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Avant-garde

It seems relivent to connect this to the Avant-garde movement as well as it was such a debated piece. Any complaints? --Toric

High class prostitute?

The article says she is a high class prostitute, but is that so? Many believe her to be for and of the lower class. See for example Eisenman's 19th Century Art (London, Thames & Hudson, 2002. Page 287).

I suppose many courtesans were of lower-class extraction, but the surroundings, the oriental shawl, pearl earrings, orchid etc. all denote luxury. This, and the fact that she has a maid, is consistent with her status of high class prostitute. Karl Stas 20:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Salon?

Just clarifying that his work was displayed (and caused controversey) when displayed at the Paris Salon, not the Exhibiton of Rejects? I remember reading that someone organised an annex to the true Salon. Just wondering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.69.15 (talk) 23:26, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Edouard Manet - Olympia - Google Art Project 3.jpg

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Edouard Manet - Olympia - Google Art Project 3.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on June 23, 2014. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2014-06-23. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:27, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Picture of the day

Olympia is an oil painting on canvas by Édouard Manet which was completed in 1863 and measures 130.5 by 190 centimetres (51 x 74.8 in). Olympia caused controversy when first exhibited at the 1865 Paris Salon, owing to the subject's confrontational glare and adornment with details identifying her as a prostitute. The nation of France acquired the painting in 1890 after a public subscription organized by Claude Monet. The painting is now on display at the Musée d'Orsay, Paris.Painting: Édouard Manet; edit: Crisco 1492

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Far too warm

The editor has never seen the picture and yet felt entitled to edit the colours. This [1] blog gives a good impression of its true appearance. All the editor has done here is transfer it into Adobe Photoshop and up its warmth some 30% or so. The result is simply horrible. What a joke. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 04:19, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: I posted about the issue at Commons:Village pump/Copyright here (at 11. Faithful representation). Coat of Many Colours (talk) 11:54, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 == Avant-garde ==
 It seems relivent to connect this to the [[Avant-garde]] movement as well as it was such a debated piece. Any complaints? --[[User:Toric|Toric]]
+== High class prostitute? ==
+The article says she is a high class prostitute, but is that so? Many believe her to be for and of the lower class. See for example Eisenman's ''19th Century Art'' (London, Thames & Hudson, 2002. Page 287).
+:I suppose many courtesans were of lower-class extraction, but the surroundings, the oriental shawl, pearl earrings, orchid etc. all denote luxury. This, and the fact that she has a maid, is consistent with her status of high class prostitute. [[User:Karl Stas|Karl Stas]] 20:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
+== Salon? ==
+Just clarifying that his work was displayed (and caused controversey) when displayed at the Paris Salon, not the Exhibiton of Rejects? I remember reading that someone organised an annex to the true Salon. Just wondering.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.189.69.15|124.189.69.15]] ([[User talk:124.189.69.15|talk]]) 23:26, 10 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+== [[:File:Edouard Manet - Olympia - Google Art Project 3.jpg]]==
+Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that [[:File:Edouard Manet - Olympia - Google Art Project 3.jpg]] will be appearing as [[Wikipedia:picture of the day|picture of the day]] on June 23, 2014. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at [[Template:POTD/2014-06-23]]. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the [[Main Page]]. Thanks!&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 01:27, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
+{{POTD/2014-06-23}}
+===Far too warm===
+The editor has never seen the picture and yet felt entitled to edit the colours. This [http://lune-bleu.blogspot.nl/2011/10/musee-dorsay.html] blog gives a good impression of its true appearance. All the editor has done here is transfer it into Adobe Photoshop and up its warmth some 30% or so. The result is simply horrible. What a joke. [[User:Coat of Many Colours|Coat of Many Colours]] ([[User talk:Coat of Many Colours|talk]]) 04:19, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
+:Addendum: I posted about the issue at [https://commons.wikimedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump/Copyright&oldid=127310311 Commons:Village pump/Copyright here] (at 11. Faithful representation). [[User:Coat of Many Colours|Coat of Many Colours]] ([[User talk:Coat of Many Colours|talk]]) 11:54, 23 June 2014 (UTC)