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:: Thanks for informing me. I have provided "permission" proof many times in the commons, but I don't understand why the admins there don't understand that. They keep asking more and more. Last time, they asked me for permission of [[Masrat Zahra]] and Sagrika Kissu for using their pics. Both of them had uploaded the pic in public domain and they left those pics for 'free to use'. But I was still asked for permission and I contact them and motivated both of them to email that permission format, then later commons admin replied with another form and made it hard for getting permission after having permission from real owner.
== Requested move 8 September 2020 ==
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:: In short, the above pic of [[Safoora Zargar]] is also uploaded with permission and I have added the link there too. But still they asked for permission. So I think instead of having the headache, I prefer they should delete it. That is better option for me. Thank You ❤️. — [[User:TheChunky|<b><i><span style="text-shadow:3px 3px 4px darkgray;"><span style="color:#0000A0">The Chunky urf <i> Al Kashmiri</i></span></span></i></b>]] [[User talk:TheChunky|<sup><i><span style="color:green">(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)</span></i></sup>]] <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 10:54, 23 March 2021 (UTC)</small>
The result of the move request was: '''not moved'''. <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:Jerm|Jerm]] ([[User talk:Jerm|talk]]) 14:53, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
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== Gulfisha Fatima ==
[[:Safoora Zargar]] → {{no redirect|Arrest of Safoora Zargar}} – subject is notable only for her arrest [[WP:1E]] hence the title should be moved During the afd discussion at least 2 editors wanted it renamed shown it below. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Girdlast888|Girdlast888]] ([[User talk:Girdlast888#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Girdlast888|contribs]]) 09:18, 8 September 2020 (UTC)</small>
{{ping|Aafi}} Regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Safoora_Zargar&curid=63892752&diff=1216394333&oldid=1216394277 this edit], the article entitled [[:Gulfisha Fatima]] was deleted because it was a copyright violation. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 19:14, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
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*Keep but Rename to Arrest of Safoora Zargar to satisfy BLP1E. The event is notable, since it has received significant coverage over quite a long period of time, but the person at the centre of it is probably not. I am noting a lot of, shall we say politicised arguments brought up by Keep voters. Also User:Sturdyankit, you may only vote once, I have stricken your second Delete vote for you. Devonian Wombat (talk) 22:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
*Keep - an alternative option could be renaming something like the Arrest of Kafeel Khan article. Also, I disagree with Numan765's view of the subject's attention-seeking approach. She was thrown behind the bars when the CAA issue as well as the protests took a backseat. --Hindustanilanguage (talk) 19:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC) [[User:Girdlast888|Girdlast888]] ([[User talk:Girdlast888|talk]]) 09:18, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
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*'''Oppose''' activists are usually arrested by the police, and hence renaming this to the '''Arrest of Safoora Zargar''' is redundant. [[Safoora Zargar#Political activism]] and [[Safoora Zargar#Online vilification]] sections indicates that the subject is notable and relevant to the current title. [[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]] ([[User talk:TheBirdsShedTears|talk]]) 09:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC)


:@[[User:Toddy1|Toddy1]]: I did notice it. I removed it because nobody would be eventually seeing it. It could be mentioned elsewhere as a redlink in the body. But [[WP:SEEALSO]] doesn't permit it: "The "See also" section should not include red links." ─ [[User:Aafi|<span style="color:SteelBlue">Aafī</span>]] [[User talk:Aafi|<span style="color:#80A0FF">(talk)</span>]] 19:28, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''': She is an activist and despite arrests there are more information as activist is available. Like personal life section about her marriage is from a interview when she was not in the controversy and is from independent source. Remaining the thing the {{u|Girdlast888}} said, Kafeel Khan was a doctor. Safoora is activist and there is lot of info available out of her arrest. — [[User:TheChunky|<b><i><span style="text-shadow:3px 3px 4px darkgray;"><span style="color:#0000A0">The Chunky urf <i> Al Kashmiri</i></span></span></i></b>]] [[User talk:TheChunky|<sup><i><span style="color:green">(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)</span></i></sup>]]
:*'''Comment''' Safoora Zargar was pregnant when she was arrested and she is solely notable for this and coverage was due to this.She fails [[WP:GNG]] as an activist and during the AFD the two editors who keep Devonian Wombat and Hindustanilanguage also wanted the name to be changed to Arrest of Safoora Zargar and this is a clear case of [[WP:1E]]. [[User:Girdlast888|Girdlast888]] ([[User talk:Girdlast888|talk]]) 10:06, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
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:*'''Reply:''' Reference number 12 is not from the after arrest. It is an independent source and is of 2018, when she was simply an activist. Thank You. There maybe more sources of her activism available in media coverages. — [[User:TheChunky|<b><i><span style="text-shadow:3px 3px 4px darkgray;"><span style="color:#0000A0">The Chunky urf <i> Al Kashmiri</i></span></span></i></b>]] [[User talk:TheChunky|<sup><i><span style="color:green">(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)</span></i></sup>]] 11:07, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''': She is notable as an activist, which got her arrested. Not vise versa. ([[User:Ashique2020|Ashique2020]] ([[User talk:Ashique2020|talk]]) 19:10, 9 September 2020 (UTC))
:*'''Comment''' Went through the references except Reference number 12 All others are after her arrest.She had no coverage before her arrest and this a case of [[WP:1E]].[[User:Girdlast888|Girdlast888]] ([[User talk:Girdlast888|talk]]) 11:35, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' There has been a lot of coverage of Zargar, and she is clearly notable. Examples of coverage before her arrest include:
**{{cite news |first1=Advitya |last1=Bahl |title=Delhi: In search of a home |url=https://www.dnaindia.com/delhi/report-delhi-in-search-of-a-home-2616587 |accessdate=21 May 2020 |work=[[DNA India]] |date=19 May 2018}}
**{{cite news |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94yHwiOJ_xA |title=Exclusive interview of Safoora Zargar of Jamia Islamia Delhi with Prince Suhaib Raza |first1=Prince Suhaib |last1=Raza |work=The Gulbarga Mirror and Deccan Digest on YouTube |date=25 January 2020 |access-date=11 September 2020 |language=not English, except for a few words}}
**{{cite news|url=https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/delhi/2020/jan/28/bjp-mps-statement-shows-partys-fascist-ideology-protesters-at-shaheenbagh-2095609.html |title=BJP MP's statement shows party's fascist ideology: Protesters at Shaheenbagh |date=28 January 2020 |first1=Rahiba R |last1=Parveen |work=[[The New Indian Express]] |access-date=11 September 2020}}
**{{cite news|url=https://thepolisproject.com/standing-up-to-repression-political-passion-animates-jamia-resistance/#.X1tqVy2ZMac |title=Standing up to Repression: Political Passion Animates Jamia Resistance |first1=Aaquib |last1=Khan |date=10 February 2020 |work=The Polis Project |access-date=11 September 2020}}
**{{cite news |url=https://www.firstpost.com/india/anti-caa-nrc-its-not-the-pain-but-how-far-the-state-will-go-to-target-us-jamia-students-recount-treatment-at-the-hands-of-delhi-police-on-10-february-8033221.html |title='It's not the pain, but how far the State will go to target us': Jamia students recount treatment at the hands of Delhi Police on 10 Feb |first1=Ismat |last1=Ara |date=12 February 2020 |work=[[Firstpost]] |access-date=11 September 2020}}
**{{cite news |url=https://clarionindia.net/police-tore-our-hijab-hit-on-private-parts-allege-jamia-students/ |title=Police Tore Our Hijab; Hit on Private Parts, Allege Jamia Students |date=13 February 2020 |first1=Mohd |last1=Aasif |work=Indian Clarion |access-date=11 September 2020}}
**{{cite news |url=https://thewire.in/rights/jamia-millia-islamia-cctv-footage |title=Purported CCTV Footage Shows Police Attacking Students in Jamia Library on Dec 15 |date= 17 February 2020 |work=[[The Wire (India)]] |access-date=11 September 2020}}
**{{cite news |url=https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/jamia-fully-shut-students-asked-to-go-home/articleshow/74642890.cms |title=Coronavirus scare in Delhi: Jamia Millia Islamia fully shut, students asked to go home |date=16 March 2020 |work=[[The Times of India]] |access-date=11 September 2020}} [https://castudyweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/The-Times-of-India-2.pdf Alternative url, story on page 3]
:An interview Zargar gave months before her arrest was also turned into two articles after her arrest - I do not know whether it formed the basis of an article in Hindi or some other Indian language before her arrest:
:*{{cite |url=https://originals.storiesasia.org/Safoora-Zargar--The-Cost-of-Ideas/index.html |title=Safoora Zargar: The Cost of Ideas |first1=Gunjeet |last1=Sra |first2=Ruhani |last2=Kaur |work=StoriesAsia |date=6 June 2020 |access-date=11 September 2020}}
:*{{cite |url=https://originals.storiesasia.org/A-Conversation-with-Safoora-Zargar/index.html |title=A Conversation with Safoora Zargar |first1=Ruhani |last1=Kaur |first2=Gunjeet |last2=Sra |work=StoriesAsia |date=12 June 2020 |access-date=11 September 2020}}
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:<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 13:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' per {{u|Ashique2020}}'s argument and coverage provided by {{u|Toddy1}}. <nowiki> ─ </nowiki> [[User:TheAafi|The Aafī]] (<sup>[[User talk:TheAafi|talk]]</sup>) 17:32, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks for informing me. I have provided "permission" proof many times in the commons, but I don't understand why the admins there don't understand that. They keep asking more and more. Last time, they asked me for permission of Masrat Zahra and Sagrika Kissu for using their pics. Both of them had uploaded the pic in public domain and they left those pics for 'free to use'. But I was still asked for permission and I contact them and motivated both of them to email that permission format, then later commons admin replied with another form and made it hard for getting permission after having permission from real owner.
In short, the above pic of Safoora Zargar is also uploaded with permission and I have added the link there too. But still they asked for permission. So I think instead of having the headache, I prefer they should delete it. That is better option for me. Thank You ❤️. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️) — Preceding undated comment added 10:54, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gulfisha Fatima

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@Aafi: Regarding this edit, the article entitled Gulfisha Fatima was deleted because it was a copyright violation. -- Toddy1 (talk) 19:14, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddy1: I did notice it. I removed it because nobody would be eventually seeing it. It could be mentioned elsewhere as a redlink in the body. But WP:SEEALSO doesn't permit it: "The "See also" section should not include red links." ─ Aafī (talk) 19:28, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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