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== Regulation and standardization ==
== Better wiki page on rfid on a different language ==
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?&u=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID
Someone should tranfer some infomation from the german section of wikipedia to english!

*Ok i got the "Potental Attack/protection against Rfid scenarios" bit from that page to here. No time to do more though.

Just comming from the German page. Interested in tech details, less in how to jam, down to apparently impossible suggestions. How to sabotage a technology shouldn’t be part of an encyclopedia – in my opinion. Let us know what exactly you like in the German version and I’ll be happy to help translating it. Fritz@Joern.De – [[User:Fritz Jörn|Fritz Jörn]] ([[User talk:Fritz Jörn|talk]]) 08:55, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

== How much abuse can these take? ==

Can these chips resist repeated abuse as in the instance of workshop or oilfield tools? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.99.66.195|68.99.66.195]] ([[User talk:68.99.66.195|talk]]) 23:32, 30 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== How is data encoded and read? ==

I came to this article knowing where these tags are used and so forth, but I wanted to learn how the data is encoded on the tag and how the reader reads the data. It seems to be missing. Are there magnetic bits on the tags, as in computer technology? I think the article needs such an explanation.

[[User:Deschreiber|Deschreiber]] ([[User talk:Deschreiber|talk]]) 13:51, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
:Working on this. I have some good references now. Data is usually stored in a [[EEPROM]] on the "chip" part of the tag, not magnetically. (Turns out [[Wiegand effect]] cards are more like mag-strip cards and have to be run through a reader). --[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]] ([[User talk:Wtshymanski|talk]]) 15:47, 20 January 2012 (UTC)


:: Also look at the SAW (surface acoustic wave) tags [http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/TUFFC.2010.1462 Example IEEE Article]. These mechanically encode the data (ID) on the tag using reflectors and have no chip or digital logic. [[Special:Contributions/152.3.216.59|152.3.216.59]] ([[User talk:152.3.216.59|talk]]) 22:24, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

== Balise tags in train control ==

Permit me to suggest the inclusion of prominent mentioning in this article of the safety-critical application of RFID technology in railroading worldwide, for which a link to /wiki/Balise would be appropriate. [[User:Paul Niquette|Paul Niquette]] ([[User talk:Paul Niquette|talk]]) 20:26, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

== "RFID on the web" ==

What is this? I keep seeing this term. How would a web site read an RFID tag? Thanks. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.250.7.198|24.250.7.198]] ([[User talk:24.250.7.198|talk]]) 21:07, 6 January 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== [[Where's the beef?]] ==

This article is much too long, and contains too little information. Most of the article is a long list of example applications. The only technical details are historic. Other editors are also asking for more technical information.

I suggest a reorganization. Perhaps most of the application examples could be moved to a separate article. Perhaps we should create a new article "RFID Technical".

I found a technical overview in Circuit Celler Magazine, and added an external link to the article. I would like to add some of the technical details to the article, but the article is already too long. I would like advice from more experienced editors. [[User:Wikfr|Wikfr]] ([[User talk:Wikfr|talk]]) 03:43, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
:[[WP:BOLD|You know what to do.]] I'm going to have a crack at the intro myself. --[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]] ([[User talk:Wtshymanski|talk]]) 16:05, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
:: We don't need to list every transit authority in the world that uses RFID. Overview! Not catalog! There's a suspiciously large amount of text that feels like it was paraphrased from manufacturer's sales sites, not from actual books on the topic. We're not selling RFID here, we're just giving the facts. --[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]] ([[User talk:Wtshymanski|talk]]) 21:04, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

== intro is wrong and potentially misleading ==
from the article--
''Radio-frequency identification (RFID) is a technology that uses radio waves to transfer data from an electronic tag''

:1960s-1970s tags were primarily radio wave based, current tags such as the ISO 14443 found in passports uses inductive coupling (magnetic only). Radios waves are both electric and magnetic. See http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/wavebasics/basicwavesjavafigure1.jpg for what a radio wave would look like. The RFIDs which use inductive coupling do so at "radio frequencies" meaning that an ISO 14443 RFID has a magnetic field that pulses at radio frequencies such as 13.65MHz but it is not a radio signal. I had changed the intro paragraph to reflect this and the change was reverted to say "simpler language is better" even though that simpler language is incorrect for most if not all the current tags in use today. [[Special:Contributions/65.166.100.202|65.166.100.202]] ([[User talk:65.166.100.202|talk]]) 14:31, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

:I feel the entire article in its present form is misleading. For instance, in the introduction, there is a picture of a 13.56 Mhz tag next to a grain of rice. The caption only mentions that it is an RFID tag. The text in the introduction (near the picture) states that tags can be read up to many meters away. For the tag in the photo to be read from many meters away would require EXTREMELY high field strength and for all intents and purposes should be considered impossible or at least highly impractical. The article should strive harder to differentiate between the different types of RFID tags (near-field coupling, and far-field coupling). (edited slightly from previous version) [[Special:Contributions/152.3.216.59|152.3.216.59]] ([[User talk:152.3.216.59|talk]]) 22:34, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

::Good pick up. I've been working hard on the [[near and far field]] article and was hoping somebody would come along and tell me if there are ANY RFID tags that do NOT use near-field inductive coupling, i.e., [[electromagnetic field]]s at RF freqencies ala metal detectors and MRI machines, but rather instead use [[electromagnetic radiation]], as in ordinary (long distance) RF transmission. Do you know of any? The end of this article makes it sound as though they exist. Yes, I'm aware that most of them are only near-field induction devices. Certainly the grain of rice ones that are used to ID your pet, are inductive near-field devices. See also [[near field communication]] [[User:Sbharris|<font color="blue">S</font>]][[User:Sbharris|<font color="orange">B</font>]][[User:Sbharris|H]][[User:Sbharris|arris]] 01:35, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Yes, there are TONS! The field exploded several years ago (circa 2005) after the long-range (far-field, EM radiative coupling) tags came into existence. Googling for "UHF RFID" and you should see some. (Examples: [http://autoid.mit.edu/pickup/RFID_Papers/065.pdf Example from 2003], [http://books.google.com/books?id=DEZrd6-ymM4C&lpg=PP2&ots=l1Rg-zgcFR&dq=uhf%20rfid&lr&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false Recent Textbook (google books)], [http://rfid.averydennison.com/product_cat/uhf-rfid-inlays/ Example Industry Site] although there are others. Impinj, Alien, TI also are tag manufacturers). These tags operate in the far field region and use radiative antennas (not coils) to couple. The main protocol is EPC Class-1 Gen2 and there are several IC manufacturers that have more info (again, see Impinj Monza, Alien Higgs). Most of the main industry thrust (i.e. following the RFID Journal LIVE! recent trade shows) is in the far-field, long-range coupling tags and readers. However, these are not useful for implantables (Due to antenna size which must be relative to wave-length and radiating field decay in skin/water). These tags operate in the worldwide 868-950 MHz UHF band (902-928 MHz ISM band for US). Another technology is SAW ([[surface acoustic wave]]) tags that are "far-field" devices but do not use IC's or digital logic to transmit their ID. Generally these operate in the 2450 MHz band. All in all, there are many tags that operate in the far-field with an advantage of long-range reading. A problem that all far-field coupling tags face is that close proximity to skin will detune the antenna (See [[IPhone_4#Antenna]]) causing the tag to not power-up, or not be able to backscatter its response. I'll take a look at the NFC article. I'm not as up to speed on the near-field state-of-the-art as I am the long-range UHF RFID. [[Special:Contributions/152.3.216.59|152.3.216.59]] ([[User talk:152.3.216.59|talk]]) 16:42, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
:::: Cool. We should make the distinction between the two fundamental types in the lede (i've done a bit of that already), then have a first intro section that explains this distinction better (with [[near and far field]] as the main article) and then split the rest of the article in general into two MAIN sections, dealing with the near-field small magnetic types first, then these latest UHF true-radio-wave-transmitter types last (the article sort of follows that style now, but not perfectly and not explicitly). Can you start moving all sections about true radio-transmitter tags toward the end of the article, as you identify them as such? For some of these, I can only guess. [[User:Sbharris|<font color="blue">S</font>]][[User:Sbharris|<font color="orange">B</font>]][[User:Sbharris|H]][[User:Sbharris|arris]] 18:10, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

The citation about tracking personnel on offshore oil & gas platforms is hypothetical. If it is used anywhere in the world it would be the exception rather than the rule.[[Special:Contributions/203.46.11.236|203.46.11.236]] ([[User talk:203.46.11.236|talk]]) 02:17, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
:I agree. The editor probably confused RFID tags with personnel safety RF beacons, which are a different technology altogether. Since the statement is uncited, and not backed up anywhere in the text of the article, I have removed it. Thanks for pointing it out. [[User:Reify-tech|Reify-tech]] ([[User talk:Reify-tech|talk]]) 05:13, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

== Spychip ==

I've recently redirected [[spychip]] here since it was a blatant anti-RFID POV fork. I'm not expecting this to go un-noticed or unopposed so anyone who wants to put that page on their watchlist is welcome to. [[User:GDallimore|GDallimore]] ([[User talk:GDallimore|Talk]]) 11:39, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

== Mark of the beast ==
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/21/schoolgirl_expelled_rfid_chip/

Is a single lawsuit notable enough? [[User:Hcobb|Hcobb]] ([[User talk:Hcobb|talk]]) 22:24, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

: A lawsuit by itself is not [[WP:notable]]. A lawsuit is a primary source, and WP needs a secondary source to tell us it is notable. That said, notability is a requirement for a separate article; it is not a requirement for inclusion in an existing article.
: The story you cite is not the lawsuit but rather an article about the controversy. If The Register is a reliable source, then it can be used to add information to an article. A google search turns up other sources for the story.
: The question becomes does the story merit inclusion. I'm on the fence. The story has human interest and is growing, but WP is [[WP:NOTNEWSPAPER]]. The story is more about privacy in general than RFID. There are additional privacy issues: the badge barcode is apparently her Social Security Number. On the flip side, the WP article has a lot about RFID privacy issues: [[Radio-frequency identification#Privacy]]. Maybe that section will spin off.
:: I would be shocked if the number of the card is her SSN. Schools are really not that lax with sensitive information. Read the article again... they say "correspond" to her SSN. There is a database, somewhere, that matches her RFID number to her SSN. -- [[User:Wguynes|Wguynes]] ([[User talk:Wguynes|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Wguynes|contribs]]) 20:56, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
: Consequently, I'd say be [[WP:BRD|bold]] and put something about the story in the article -- but keep a neutral tone.
: [[User:Glrx|Glrx]] ([[User talk:Glrx|talk]]) 17:45, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
: Be aware that most of the headlines you'll find are incorrect. The student was disenrolled only after refusing an ID card ''without'' an RFID chip. Almost all articles claim, usually in the headline, that it was because she refused one ''with'' a chip. Very sensationalist, sells papers, but one would hope we at Wikipedia care about facts. See the copy of the letter from the district referenced in some of the articles for a direct reference to the disenrollment. It does no good to merely regurgitate bad journalism. -- [[User:Wguynes|Wguynes]] ([[User talk:Wguynes|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Wguynes|contribs]]) 20:51, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

== See Also ==

This link to a Wikipedia article should be added to the "See Also" section of the article (I tried, but page was locked).
[[Mobile_RFID]] - [[User:Jim.Callahan,Orlando|Jim.Callahan,Orlando]] ([[User talk:Jim.Callahan,Orlando|talk]]) 22:37, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

== Walmart RFID tags ==

Source "89" says nothing about RFID tags at Walmart being able to track specific items, and if it did, it would be absolutely incorrect. Believe me when I say, as a former member of Walmart Asset Protection, the RFID tags there are generic; they are placed on/in items at the manufacturer, from large sheets of commercially available tags. Whether the capability exists or not, those particular tags absolutely do not store information on individual items.

~~Jeff~ <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:E:8B00:5DA:D88C:4A0F:5E1A:D2A1|2601:E:8B00:5DA:D88C:4A0F:5E1A:D2A1]] ([[User talk:2601:E:8B00:5DA:D88C:4A0F:5E1A:D2A1|talk]]) 18:14, 27 May 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Active RFID ==
Active RFID in my opinion is added into the article as if it is the same technology as passive RFID with a battery. This is factually incorrect. What is know as active RFID is a very different technology. It operates in a different way and has a number of features that is not applicable to passive RFID. Active RFID is an electronic tag that includes an microprocessor and transmitter circuit. The tag is battery powered and provided a continues modulation control signal which transmits a unique identification and other data. The invention also included a receiver that receive the transmissions from the tag.
Terrence Keith (Terry) Ashwin developed the automatic electronic identification - battery operated (active) Identification System <ref>{{cite web|title=South African technology leads the world|url=http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=111319|website=www.itweb.co.za}}</ref> <ref name="PatentScope">{{cite web|url=http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/WO2000052636 |title=Identification system Patent WO/2000/052636}}</ref> <ref name="Google Patents">{{cite web|url=http://www.google.com/patents/US20020175807 |title=Identification device
US 20020175807}}</ref> <ref name="Intellectual Property in Australia">{{cite web|url=http://www.ipaustralia.com.au/applicant/konisa-limited/patents/AU1999032621/ |title=Identification Tag}}</ref> today known as Active RFID. The original product was called Link-IT and then renamed to Wavetrend.<ref name="Wavetrend">{{cite web|url=http://www.google.co.uk/patents/US20020175807|title= Patent Session - Legal Events Ashwin - Konisa - Wavetrend}}</ref> Wavetrend delivered a paper at the RFID Journal Live Conference in May 2006. (http://www.rfidjournalevents.com/live2006/PDF/WedBO_Bishop.pdf) Wavetrend was referenced as the leaders in Active RFID technology on page 3 of the presentation.

He developed a number of additional features that made this product even more unique.<ref name="PatentMaps">{{cite web|url=http://www.patentmaps.com/inventor/ashwin_terrence_keith_1.html|title= Patent Applications Filed Terrence Keith Ashwin}}</ref>

The product in 1999 while it was commercially known as Link-IT was awarded the prestigious 'Security Industry's Finest New Product Showcase'<ref name="SIA">{{cite web|url=http://www.iscwest.com/SIANPS/|title= SIA}}</ref> award at the ISC EXPO, Las Vegas 2000. <ref name="Computer Business Review">{{cite web|url=http://www.cbr.co.za/news.aspx?pklnewsid=2405|title= Link-IT receives international recognition}}</ref>

Terry's invention (Link-IT) was discussed on a live SABC (South African Broadcast Corporation) program,Net Insider, with a panel that included two international experts. <ref name="Net Insider">{{cite web|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ypf5Px6PA8|title= Net Insider - AIT}}</ref> The Net Insider on YouTube is half an hour long, and was specifically loaded by the author to provide an extra third party reference. In the video (9:40 minutes) Jeff Jarvis, VP Business Development of Access Corporation, USA, states "That it is new technology" and "It is the best I've seen for electronic commerce in the near term". (25:10 minutes) Don Small, VP Marketing and Business Development, HID Corporation, Irvine, California, Leaders in the Passive RFID world, provides an explanation about the difference between active and passive RFID and why HID is interested in the technology. Net Insider is as far as the author could establish an independent facilitator obtaining a objective view using a panel discussion with company representatives and independent experts.


In this section, it is stated that the NFC payments use the ISO/IEC15693 standard, though the corresponding page only lists "public library" and "sky pass" tags, whereas the NFC contactless payments are listed on the ISO/IEC 14443 page. Thus, this should be corrected. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/178.233.225.27|178.233.225.27]] ([[User talk:178.233.225.27#top|talk]]) 20:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
;References
:I'd correct it if I knew exactly which content should be altered. It might be that the [[ISO/IEC 15693]] page needs to list more examples rather than this article being edited. If you have expertise in this field, can I suggest you [[WP:BOLD| be bold]] and try editing the article page/s yourself. [[User:Meticulo|Meticulo]] ([[User talk:Meticulo|talk]]) 05:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
{{Reflist}}


=="Banner headline tags not helpful"==
;External links
[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]], I've added "citation needed" tags to show where in the article verification seems lacking. I'm responding here to [[User_talk:Meticulo#Banner_headline_tags_not_helpful |your query on my talk page]] because other editors might want some background to my tagging. I agree the article as it stands is overly detailed and fixated on trivia. It needs heavy cutting, which would also reduce the number of footnotes. [[User:Meticulo|Meticulo]] ([[User talk:Meticulo|talk]]) 11:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
* [http://www.wavetrend.com Official website]


== RFID localization for cancer surgery ==
gert@eureka-technology.net – [[User:Gert Botha|gcmbotha]] ([[User talk:gcmbotha|talk]]) 08:30 pm, 24 June 2014


Does anyone have time to add something on RFID localization for cancer surgery?
:I removed the insertion about TA. See [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terrence Keith Ashwin]]. [[User:Glrx|Glrx]] ([[User talk:Glrx|talk]]) 14:41, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
The RFID tag is inserted next to the tumour underultrasound or CT guidance and the surgeon uses a detector to remove the adjacent tumor and the tag
::This is unfortunately not good enough. A number of additional substantiating documentation was provided. The post that you deleted contained 3rd party article that was not previously posted. If you have a reason for removing the content then state reasons and respond to all the additional information provided. See [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terrence Keith Ashwin]]. [User:Gert Botha|gcmbotha]] ([[User talk:gcmbotha|talk]]) 01:32 pm, 1 August 2014 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 11:33, 1 August 2014 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
https://www.hologic.com/hologic-products/breast-health-solutions/localizer-wire-free-guidance-system
::: I reverted and also cited a [[WP:POV]].[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Radio-frequency_identification&diff=619142933&oldid=618861009] Patents, reworked press releases, and presentations by company employees are not independent secondary sources. You need to get a consensus to add the material. See also [[WP:BRD]]. [[User:Glrx|Glrx]] ([[User talk:Glrx|talk]]) 19:12, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Ta [[Special:Contributions/208.127.199.229|208.127.199.229]] ([[User talk:208.127.199.229|talk]]) 08:09, 8 September 2021 (UTC)


== Proposed merge of [[RFdump]] into [[Radio-frequency identification]] ==
== France Rode, inventor of first Rode also invented and created the first workable RFID products ==


Only about one reliable source for this topic however there are many passing mentions, merging into RFID makes sense. This article could also be deleted due to it being [[WP:UNDUE]] and/or [[WP:FRINGE]] because RFID seems immensely more popular than this subject. '''[[User:Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">Ap</span>]][[Special:Contributions/The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">m</span>]][[User talk:The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">h</span>]]''' 16:08, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
source:
:Better that [[RFdump]] be deleted entirely - it is an ad, and there's never a need to list random debugging software for any article. --[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]] ([[User talk:Wtshymanski|talk]]) 23:58, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
::'''Closing''', with '''no merge'''; added PROD. [[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] ([[User talk:Klbrain|talk]]) 10:54, 29 July 2023 (UTC)


== Frequencies table ==
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_Rode


The frequencies table does not appear to mention the kind of tags used to track supermarket merchandise (and allow a fast track checkout). Even when not used in this 'smart' way, they are often to be found on higher value items such a bottles of spirits to prevent theft. These use passive tags that have a range of a few meters. They are also used for inventory tracking. Why are they missing from the table? [[User:FreeFlow99|FreeFlow99]] ([[User talk:FreeFlow99|talk]]) 16:55, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
So why he isn't mentioned? Because he is not an American?

Revision as of 13:24, 1 April 2024

Regulation and standardization

In this section, it is stated that the NFC payments use the ISO/IEC15693 standard, though the corresponding page only lists "public library" and "sky pass" tags, whereas the NFC contactless payments are listed on the ISO/IEC 14443 page. Thus, this should be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.233.225.27 (talk) 20:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd correct it if I knew exactly which content should be altered. It might be that the ISO/IEC 15693 page needs to list more examples rather than this article being edited. If you have expertise in this field, can I suggest you be bold and try editing the article page/s yourself. Meticulo (talk) 05:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Banner headline tags not helpful"

Wtshymanski, I've added "citation needed" tags to show where in the article verification seems lacking. I'm responding here to your query on my talk page because other editors might want some background to my tagging. I agree the article as it stands is overly detailed and fixated on trivia. It needs heavy cutting, which would also reduce the number of footnotes. Meticulo (talk) 11:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RFID localization for cancer surgery

Does anyone have time to add something on RFID localization for cancer surgery? The RFID tag is inserted next to the tumour underultrasound or CT guidance and the surgeon uses a detector to remove the adjacent tumor and the tag https://www.hologic.com/hologic-products/breast-health-solutions/localizer-wire-free-guidance-system Ta 208.127.199.229 (talk) 08:09, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of RFdump into Radio-frequency identification

Only about one reliable source for this topic however there are many passing mentions, merging into RFID makes sense. This article could also be deleted due to it being WP:UNDUE and/or WP:FRINGE because RFID seems immensely more popular than this subject. Apmh 16:08, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Better that RFdump be deleted entirely - it is an ad, and there's never a need to list random debugging software for any article. --Wtshymanski (talk) 23:58, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Closing, with no merge; added PROD. Klbrain (talk) 10:54, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Frequencies table

The frequencies table does not appear to mention the kind of tags used to track supermarket merchandise (and allow a fast track checkout). Even when not used in this 'smart' way, they are often to be found on higher value items such a bottles of spirits to prevent theft. These use passive tags that have a range of a few meters. They are also used for inventory tracking. Why are they missing from the table? FreeFlow99 (talk) 16:55, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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