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== Regulation and standardization ==
==Credibility==
Under 'Frequencies->Band 120-150kHz->Range' author claims 10 cm. This is TOTALLY wrong! <ul><li>I personally reached 25 cm with an ID-2 from Innovations and a 16 cm square antenna. <li>The 'Electrodragon' module achieves 40 cm. Many (amateur) people achieve similar ranges. <li>Masstect claims 90 cm. <li>UHPPOTE Middle Reading Distance Range: Common Card up to 30-40cm (11.8"-15.7") Long range proximity card up to 80-100cm .</ul>
And I didn't even check professional products. <br>
There is a reason why Wikipedia has no credibility. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/115.70.29.185|115.70.29.185]] ([[User talk:115.70.29.185#top|talk]]) 15:19, 9 May 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:This is not according to any "author" but to a reference. If you can find a reference that supports your claim and provides the distance for the others using the same methodology, do so. but remember what you are doing is considered original research, which is not allowed here.[[Special:Contributions/192.26.8.4|192.26.8.4]] ([[User talk:192.26.8.4|talk]]) 17:41, 14 July 2020 (UTC)


In this section, it is stated that the NFC payments use the ISO/IEC15693 standard, though the corresponding page only lists "public library" and "sky pass" tags, whereas the NFC contactless payments are listed on the ISO/IEC 14443 page. Thus, this should be corrected. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/178.233.225.27|178.233.225.27]] ([[User talk:178.233.225.27#top|talk]]) 20:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Mark of the beast ==
:I'd correct it if I knew exactly which content should be altered. It might be that the [[ISO/IEC 15693]] page needs to list more examples rather than this article being edited. If you have expertise in this field, can I suggest you [[WP:BOLD| be bold]] and try editing the article page/s yourself. [[User:Meticulo|Meticulo]] ([[User talk:Meticulo|talk]]) 05:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/21/schoolgirl_expelled_rfid_chip/


=="Banner headline tags not helpful"==
Is a single lawsuit notable enough? [[User:Hcobb|Hcobb]] ([[User talk:Hcobb|talk]]) 22:24, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]], I've added "citation needed" tags to show where in the article verification seems lacking. I'm responding here to [[User_talk:Meticulo#Banner_headline_tags_not_helpful |your query on my talk page]] because other editors might want some background to my tagging. I agree the article as it stands is overly detailed and fixated on trivia. It needs heavy cutting, which would also reduce the number of footnotes. [[User:Meticulo|Meticulo]] ([[User talk:Meticulo|talk]]) 11:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)


== RFID localization for cancer surgery ==
: A lawsuit by itself is not [[WP:notable]]. A lawsuit is a primary source, and WP needs a secondary source to tell us it is notable. That said, notability is a requirement for a separate article; it is not a requirement for inclusion in an existing article.
: The story you cite is not the lawsuit but rather an article about the controversy. If The Register is a reliable source, then it can be used to add information to an article. A google search turns up other sources for the story.
: The question becomes does the story merit inclusion. I'm on the fence. The story has human interest and is growing, but WP is [[WP:NOTNEWSPAPER]]. The story is more about privacy in general than RFID. There are additional privacy issues: the badge barcode is apparently her Social Security Number. On the flip side, the WP article has a lot about RFID privacy issues: [[Radio-frequency identification#Privacy]]. Maybe that section will spin off.
:: I would be shocked if the number of the card is her SSN. Schools are really not that lax with sensitive information. Read the article again... they say "correspond" to her SSN. There is a database, somewhere, that matches her RFID number to her SSN. -- [[User:Wguynes|Wguynes]] ([[User talk:Wguynes|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Wguynes|contribs]]) 20:56, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
: Consequently, I'd say be [[WP:BRD|bold]] and put something about the story in the article -- but keep a neutral tone.
: [[User:Glrx|Glrx]] ([[User talk:Glrx|talk]]) 17:45, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
: Be aware that most of the headlines you'll find are incorrect. The student was disenrolled only after refusing an ID card ''without'' an RFID chip. Almost all articles claim, usually in the headline, that it was because she refused one ''with'' a chip. Very sensationalist, sells papers, but one would hope we at Wikipedia care about facts. See the copy of the letter from the district referenced in some of the articles for a direct reference to the disenrollment. It does no good to merely regurgitate bad journalism. -- [[User:Wguynes|Wguynes]] ([[User talk:Wguynes|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Wguynes|contribs]]) 20:51, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


Does anyone have time to add something on RFID localization for cancer surgery?
The "Mark of the Beast" references Revelation 13. The passage is not very specific as to what it is, and that therefore we cannot be very specific as to what it is not. However, human identification is involved in this chapter, especially for economic ends, and, more broadly, for purposes of control. The Book of Revelation is held authoritative, as it is in the canon, of all major divisions of the Christian Faith. ([[User:John G. Lewis|John G. Lewis]] ([[User talk:John G. Lewis|talk]]) 16:01, 5 March 2015 (UTC))
The RFID tag is inserted next to the tumour underultrasound or CT guidance and the surgeon uses a detector to remove the adjacent tumor and the tag
https://www.hologic.com/hologic-products/breast-health-solutions/localizer-wire-free-guidance-system
Ta [[Special:Contributions/208.127.199.229|208.127.199.229]] ([[User talk:208.127.199.229|talk]]) 08:09, 8 September 2021 (UTC)


== Proposed merge of [[RFdump]] into [[Radio-frequency identification]] ==
Who's human identify? [[User:MystinaRose|MystinaRose]] ([[User talk:MystinaRose|talk]]) 08:08, 13 February 2019 (UTC)


Only about one reliable source for this topic however there are many passing mentions, merging into RFID makes sense. This article could also be deleted due to it being [[WP:UNDUE]] and/or [[WP:FRINGE]] because RFID seems immensely more popular than this subject. '''[[User:Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">Ap</span>]][[Special:Contributions/The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">m</span>]][[User talk:The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">h</span>]]''' 16:08, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
== Antique orthography ==
:Better that [[RFdump]] be deleted entirely - it is an ad, and there's never a need to list random debugging software for any article. --[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]] ([[User talk:Wtshymanski|talk]]) 23:58, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
::'''Closing''', with '''no merge'''; added PROD. [[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] ([[User talk:Klbrain|talk]]) 10:54, 29 July 2023 (UTC)


== Frequencies table ==
Moving [[Radio-frequency identification]] to [[Radiofrequency identification]] ought to be noncontroversial given that it is not 1942 anymore. Hyphenating "radio-frequency" is antique orthography, which WP does not use for current technology topics. I moved it per [[WP:BOLD]], and it was reverted. Please explain below any valid objections to removing it (besides "I personally like to write with unusual or outdated punctuation", which is not a valid reason for the Wikipedia article on RFIDs). Thanks. —&nbsp;[[User:Three-quarter-ten|¾-10]] 00:48, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
:Doing some simple searches returns "Radio-frequency" (hyphenated) or "Radio frequency" (two words). [[:IEEE]] uses [http://www.ieee-rfid.org/ two words], which I would not oppose as a move target should a request for move be made in that direction.--[[User:Loriendrew|<font color="#005000">&#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;</font>]] [[User talk:Loriendrew|<font color="#000080">&#9743;''(ring-ring)''</font>]] 00:54, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
:: Hmm. I must retire my objection. I am so used to seeing "[[radiofrequency ablation]]", which usually does not take the hyphen in modern U.S. publications. But I see that Google results for "radio-frequency identification (RFID)" in quotes outnumber results for "radiofrequency identification (RFID)" (although there are many of the latter, in contrast to the assertion that there were none), and now I see that several dictionaries have an open or hyphenated compound, such as [https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=RFID AHD at RFID]. Oh well. I still would like to see it moved to the more modern styling. But I can live with it if not. —&nbsp;[[User:Three-quarter-ten|¾-10]] 01:04, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. "Radio frequency" is commonly two words; both Oxford and Merriam-Webster spell it that way. Under the strict hyphen rules, "radio" goes with "frequency" rather than identification, so the phrase should be "radio-frequency identification". Arguably, it could be "radio frequency identification" because most people would understand that "radio" modifies frequency. It may be that "radio frequency" will follow the same path as "screen play" to "screenplay", but that is not typical yet. RFID Journal's website description[http://www.rfidjournal.com] uses "RFID (radio frequency identification)". [[User:Glrx|Glrx]] ([[User talk:Glrx|talk]]) 15:06, 28 September 2016 (UTC)


The frequencies table does not appear to mention the kind of tags used to track supermarket merchandise (and allow a fast track checkout). Even when not used in this 'smart' way, they are often to be found on higher value items such a bottles of spirits to prevent theft. These use passive tags that have a range of a few meters. They are also used for inventory tracking. Why are they missing from the table? [[User:FreeFlow99|FreeFlow99]] ([[User talk:FreeFlow99|talk]]) 16:55, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
==Suggest merge October 2017==
[[Bulk reading]] contains only a little content which would be a paragraph or two in this article and make it more comprehensive. --[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]] ([[User talk:Wtshymanski|talk]]) 03:37, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
: Go for it. [[User:Glrx|Glrx]] ([[User talk:Glrx|talk]]) 23:49, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

== Regulation and standardization ==

In this section, it is stated that the NFC payments use the ISO/IEC15693 standard, though the corresponding page only lists "public library" and "sky pass" tags, whereas the NFC contactless payments are listed on the ISO/IEC 14443 page. Thus, this should be corrected. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/178.233.225.27|178.233.225.27]] ([[User talk:178.233.225.27#top|talk]]) 20:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Regulation and standardization

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In this section, it is stated that the NFC payments use the ISO/IEC15693 standard, though the corresponding page only lists "public library" and "sky pass" tags, whereas the NFC contactless payments are listed on the ISO/IEC 14443 page. Thus, this should be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.233.225.27 (talk) 20:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd correct it if I knew exactly which content should be altered. It might be that the ISO/IEC 15693 page needs to list more examples rather than this article being edited. If you have expertise in this field, can I suggest you be bold and try editing the article page/s yourself. Meticulo (talk) 05:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Banner headline tags not helpful"

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Wtshymanski, I've added "citation needed" tags to show where in the article verification seems lacking. I'm responding here to your query on my talk page because other editors might want some background to my tagging. I agree the article as it stands is overly detailed and fixated on trivia. It needs heavy cutting, which would also reduce the number of footnotes. Meticulo (talk) 11:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RFID localization for cancer surgery

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Does anyone have time to add something on RFID localization for cancer surgery? The RFID tag is inserted next to the tumour underultrasound or CT guidance and the surgeon uses a detector to remove the adjacent tumor and the tag https://www.hologic.com/hologic-products/breast-health-solutions/localizer-wire-free-guidance-system Ta 208.127.199.229 (talk) 08:09, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Only about one reliable source for this topic however there are many passing mentions, merging into RFID makes sense. This article could also be deleted due to it being WP:UNDUE and/or WP:FRINGE because RFID seems immensely more popular than this subject. Apmh 16:08, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Better that RFdump be deleted entirely - it is an ad, and there's never a need to list random debugging software for any article. --Wtshymanski (talk) 23:58, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Closing, with no merge; added PROD. Klbrain (talk) 10:54, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Frequencies table

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The frequencies table does not appear to mention the kind of tags used to track supermarket merchandise (and allow a fast track checkout). Even when not used in this 'smart' way, they are often to be found on higher value items such a bottles of spirits to prevent theft. These use passive tags that have a range of a few meters. They are also used for inventory tracking. Why are they missing from the table? FreeFlow99 (talk) 16:55, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]