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:Thanks for spotting this. I have removed the link. [[User:GrahamColm|Graham Colm]] ([[User talk:GrahamColm|talk]]) 11:06, 4 March 2013 (UTC) |
:Thanks for spotting this. I have removed the link. [[User:GrahamColm|Graham Colm]] ([[User talk:GrahamColm|talk]]) 11:06, 4 March 2013 (UTC) |
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== Ribosome structure == |
== Ribosome structure == |
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I suggest to move the whole section on structure to a new page. There is plenty of more information to be incorporated, so this will eventually become unwieldy. [[User:Peteruetz|Peteruetz]] ([[User talk:Peteruetz|talk]]) 14:52, 9 October 2013 (UTC) |
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==Ribosome: structure and function, molecular device/machine== |
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I just found a good review about these aspects of ribosome: |
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<ref name=Ribosome_macromolecular_device_2012_REVIEW>{{Cite journal |
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| doi = 10.1146/annurev-biophys-050511-102314 |
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| last = Moore |
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| title = How Should We Think About the Ribosome? |
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| journal = [[Annual Review of Biophysics]] |
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| accessdate = 2014-09-19 |
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| date = 2012 |
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| url = http://dx.doi.org/10.1146/annurev-biophys-050511-102314 |
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[[User:Kazkaskazkasako|Kazkaskazkasako]] ([[User talk:Kazkaskazkasako|talk]]) 18:19, 19 September 2014 (UTC) |
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This non sequitur at the end of the structure section has been deleted for lack of context or explanation and weasel wording. |
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"It should be noted that the production of the component parts of the ribosome from a messenger RNA molecule is rather strongly isomorphic with the self-replication model of von Neumann." |
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[[Special:Contributions/173.25.54.191|173.25.54.191]] ([[User talk:173.25.54.191|talk]]) 22:26, 6 January 2015 (UTC) |
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:I agree with you. It's also tantamount to gibberish. [[User:Graham Beards|Graham Beards]] ([[User talk:Graham Beards|talk]]) 22:53, 6 January 2015 (UTC) |
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== Introduction == |
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Shouldn't "intercellular" in "Ribosomes are often embedded in the intercellular membranes that make up the rough endoplasmic reticulum" be replaced by "intracellular"? |
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--[[User:Seadogburger|Seadogburger]] ([[User talk:Seadogburger|talk]]) 11:46, 31 October 2015 (UTC) |
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:Yes, thank you for pointing this out. [[User:Graham Beards|Graham Beards]] ([[User talk:Graham Beards|talk]]) 17:15, 1 November 2015 (UTC) |
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==References== |
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==Assessment comment== |
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{{Substituted comment|length=261|lastedit=20090709184452|comment=The first sentence should not say "...in all cells." Mature reb blood cells (erythrocytes) have no nucleus and no DNA and, hence, no RNA or ribosomes. [[Special:Contributions/150.148.0.27|150.148.0.27]] ([[User talk:150.148.0.27|talk]]) 18:44, 9 July 2009 (UTC)}} |
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==Self-cloning ribosome as the pro-LUCA origin of life== |
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It's a theory. It's structure may not have all the same components. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2A02:2149:827F:6E00:549E:A65E:49A0:F52F|2A02:2149:827F:6E00:549E:A65E:49A0:F52F]] ([[User talk:2A02:2149:827F:6E00:549E:A65E:49A0:F52F#top|talk]]) 21:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I do not understand. They cannot be self-cloning, because they produce proteins, not ribozymes that they actually are (the most important active center that is). So it is just a wrong theory and is against RNA world. [[User:Valery Zapolodov|Valery Zapolodov]] ([[User talk:Valery Zapolodov|talk]]) 00:24, 26 July 2021 (UTC) |
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==My recent edit and the term "prokaryote"== |
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It's outdated to talk about prokaryotes, as bacteria and archaea are as different from each other as bacteria and eukaryotes or archaea and eukaryotes. There should be a separate section on archaeal ribosomes. Also, I found it strange to talk about properties of prokaryotic (or even just bacterial) ribosomes based only on numbers of one species (E. coli). Other bacteria will certainly have rRNAs of different sizes, and I would expect also different numbers of proteins. In the meantime, I've edited the sentences so they more directly relate to E. coli, as an example. |
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[[User:Zashaw|Zashaw]] ([[User talk:Zashaw|talk]]) 06:16, 17 April 2019 (UTC) |
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so like they have protein <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.111.175.204|81.111.175.204]] ([[User talk:81.111.175.204#top|talk]]) 16:59, 22 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Figure 6 caption == |
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I believe that the caption in Fig. 6 would be improved greatly by adding to it a part of the caption to the identical figure in the “Elongation” section of the “Eukaryotic translation” page, which reads (slightly altered): “The ribosome is green and yellow, the tRNAs are dark blue, and some other proteins involved are light blue.” |
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I do not know how to carry this out; I'm just leaving this here in case someone wants to carry on... [[User:HHHEB3|HHHEB3]] ([[User talk:HHHEB3|talk]]) 13:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC) |
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[edit]The first external link seems to be broken. Please remove the following: 70S Ribosome Architecture Animation of a working ribosome. Requires the Chime browser plugin from this site (where registration is required). Iakov Davydov (talk) 08:47, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for spotting this. I have removed the link. Graham Colm (talk) 11:06, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Ribosome structure
[edit]I suggest to move the whole section on structure to a new page. There is plenty of more information to be incorporated, so this will eventually become unwieldy. Peteruetz (talk) 14:52, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Ribosome: structure and function, molecular device/machine
[edit]I just found a good review about these aspects of ribosome: [1] Kazkaskazkasako (talk) 18:19, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Deletion
[edit]This non sequitur at the end of the structure section has been deleted for lack of context or explanation and weasel wording.
"It should be noted that the production of the component parts of the ribosome from a messenger RNA molecule is rather strongly isomorphic with the self-replication model of von Neumann."
173.25.54.191 (talk) 22:26, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- I agree with you. It's also tantamount to gibberish. Graham Beards (talk) 22:53, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Introduction
[edit]Shouldn't "intercellular" in "Ribosomes are often embedded in the intercellular membranes that make up the rough endoplasmic reticulum" be replaced by "intracellular"? --Seadogburger (talk) 11:46, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you for pointing this out. Graham Beards (talk) 17:15, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
References
[edit]- ^ Moore, Peter B. (2012). "How Should We Think About the Ribosome?". Annual Review of Biophysics. 41 (1): 1–19. doi:10.1146/annurev-biophys-050511-102314. PMID 22577819. Retrieved 2014-09-19.
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[edit]The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Ribosome/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
The first sentence should not say "...in all cells." Mature reb blood cells (erythrocytes) have no nucleus and no DNA and, hence, no RNA or ribosomes. 150.148.0.27 (talk) 18:44, 9 July 2009 (UTC) |
Last edited at 18:44, 9 July 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 04:17, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Self-cloning ribosome as the pro-LUCA origin of life
[edit]It's a theory. It's structure may not have all the same components. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2149:827F:6E00:549E:A65E:49A0:F52F (talk) 21:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
- I do not understand. They cannot be self-cloning, because they produce proteins, not ribozymes that they actually are (the most important active center that is). So it is just a wrong theory and is against RNA world. Valery Zapolodov (talk) 00:24, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
My recent edit and the term "prokaryote"
[edit]It's outdated to talk about prokaryotes, as bacteria and archaea are as different from each other as bacteria and eukaryotes or archaea and eukaryotes. There should be a separate section on archaeal ribosomes. Also, I found it strange to talk about properties of prokaryotic (or even just bacterial) ribosomes based only on numbers of one species (E. coli). Other bacteria will certainly have rRNAs of different sizes, and I would expect also different numbers of proteins. In the meantime, I've edited the sentences so they more directly relate to E. coli, as an example.
Zashaw (talk) 06:16, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
so like they have protein — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.175.204 (talk) 16:59, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Figure 6 caption
[edit]I believe that the caption in Fig. 6 would be improved greatly by adding to it a part of the caption to the identical figure in the “Elongation” section of the “Eukaryotic translation” page, which reads (slightly altered): “The ribosome is green and yellow, the tRNAs are dark blue, and some other proteins involved are light blue.”
I do not know how to carry this out; I'm just leaving this here in case someone wants to carry on... HHHEB3 (talk) 13:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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