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== Article contributions ==
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This article was originally translated from the German article and subsequently copyedited for grammar and spelling by myself and a few other editors on the English wiki. Please refer to the article's history on the German Wikipedia for other authors who contributed to the content of this article. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] ([[User talk:RedWolf|talk]]) 23:34, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
This article was originally translated from the German article and subsequently copyedited for grammar and spelling by myself and a few other editors on the English wiki. Please refer to the article's history on the German Wikipedia for other authors who contributed to the content of this article. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] ([[User talk:RedWolf|talk]]) 23:34, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


=="As a consequence of the First World War, there was a lack of a whole generation of strong young men."==
Translated or not,the chronology is a mishmash of times, bouncing back and forth in a confusing manner. But, worst of all is the insidious insertion of the politically correct (and historically incorrect) theme of the Tibetan/Napalese quickly gaining parity with Western climbers. Such rubbish has no place in the pre-WW-II era.[[Special:Contributions/74.104.98.213|74.104.98.213]] ([[User talk:74.104.98.213|talk]]) 01:17, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Not true of the population as a whole : a more accurate statement would be "...shortage of fit young former officers of private means". The young officer generation were indeed mostly wiped out, and many of all ranks weakened by gas. I don't think the fit working-class lads got considered for or could afford expeditions like this then. [[User:Rcbutcher|Rcbutcher]] ([[User talk:Rcbutcher|talk]]) 08:01, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

== Contradiction in the chronology ==

The article currently states: "In 1988, he admitted that since 1924 he [Noel Odell] had never been clear about the exact location along the northeast ridge where he had seen the black dots." However, if one goes to [[Noel Odell]], it says that he died in 1987. One of these dates has to be incorrect. Does someone with expertise in the matter know which it is? [[User:Tigercompanion25|Tigercompanion25]] ([[User talk:Tigercompanion25|talk]]) 23:52, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
: Odell sad it shortly before his death at 1987. I have corrected this. [[User:Alexander Roumega|Alexander Roumega]] ([[User talk:Alexander Roumega|talk]]) 15:49, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

== Counter-ascent argument ==

How is it that the counter-ascent argument is summarised as "One counter argument claims that their fleece, vests and trousers were too poor quality". There was nothing wrong with the quality of their clothes, nor was the clothing unsuitable for high altitudes. The clothing was the same as used by thousands of other mountaineers in cold weather and at altitude.[[User:Royalcourtier|Royalcourtier]] ([[User talk:Royalcourtier|talk]]) 03:37, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

== Hillary's reaction ==

Sir Edmund Hillary was still alive in 1999, when Mallory's body was found. He said he hoped they had reached the peak, and if anyone were able to prove this, he would gladly hand back his knighthood and other honours. I think this deserves a mention, if there's a reference. (I tried to contribute this to Mallory’s Talk page, but it was diverted to a pink section, headed ''The following discussion has been closed'' - in error, I assume. [[User:Valetude|Valetude]] ([[User talk:Valetude|talk]]) 15:13, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

I don't see what this would have to do with the 1924 British Mount Everest expedition. Even if there is a reliable source for the quote, it would seem that Hillary was joking or wildly speculating. I don't see how including comments made by Hillary in 1999 would add information about an expedition which took place in 1924. [[User:Michael Tracy|Michael Tracy]] ([[User talk:Michael Tracy|talk]]) 19:52, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

== General Hospital neurosurgeon Dr. Elliot Schwamm ==

I was unable to find anything about Mr. Schwamm. Does anyone know who he was or how he is involved in the matter? [[Special:Contributions/68.196.65.115|68.196.65.115]] ([[User talk:68.196.65.115|talk]]) 05:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 05:03, 11 April 2024

Article contributions

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This article was originally translated from the German article and subsequently copyedited for grammar and spelling by myself and a few other editors on the English wiki. Please refer to the article's history on the German Wikipedia for other authors who contributed to the content of this article. RedWolf (talk) 23:34, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"As a consequence of the First World War, there was a lack of a whole generation of strong young men."

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Not true of the population as a whole : a more accurate statement would be "...shortage of fit young former officers of private means". The young officer generation were indeed mostly wiped out, and many of all ranks weakened by gas. I don't think the fit working-class lads got considered for or could afford expeditions like this then. Rcbutcher (talk) 08:01, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction in the chronology

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The article currently states: "In 1988, he admitted that since 1924 he [Noel Odell] had never been clear about the exact location along the northeast ridge where he had seen the black dots." However, if one goes to Noel Odell, it says that he died in 1987. One of these dates has to be incorrect. Does someone with expertise in the matter know which it is? Tigercompanion25 (talk) 23:52, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Odell sad it shortly before his death at 1987. I have corrected this. Alexander Roumega (talk) 15:49, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Counter-ascent argument

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How is it that the counter-ascent argument is summarised as "One counter argument claims that their fleece, vests and trousers were too poor quality". There was nothing wrong with the quality of their clothes, nor was the clothing unsuitable for high altitudes. The clothing was the same as used by thousands of other mountaineers in cold weather and at altitude.Royalcourtier (talk) 03:37, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hillary's reaction

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Sir Edmund Hillary was still alive in 1999, when Mallory's body was found. He said he hoped they had reached the peak, and if anyone were able to prove this, he would gladly hand back his knighthood and other honours. I think this deserves a mention, if there's a reference. (I tried to contribute this to Mallory’s Talk page, but it was diverted to a pink section, headed The following discussion has been closed - in error, I assume. Valetude (talk) 15:13, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see what this would have to do with the 1924 British Mount Everest expedition. Even if there is a reliable source for the quote, it would seem that Hillary was joking or wildly speculating. I don't see how including comments made by Hillary in 1999 would add information about an expedition which took place in 1924. Michael Tracy (talk) 19:52, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

General Hospital neurosurgeon Dr. Elliot Schwamm

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I was unable to find anything about Mr. Schwamm. Does anyone know who he was or how he is involved in the matter? 68.196.65.115 (talk) 05:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]