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== Inadequate explanation of title == |
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== Articles for some Season 3 episodes? == |
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''According to Gilligan, the title is a Southern colloquialism meaning "to raise hell".'' |
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I noticed some episodes of Season 3, such as One Minute, have no articles. Is there any objection to me creating an article for at least "One Minute?" As in, has this already been discussed in the past? [[User:Hummerrocket|<span style="background-color: #FFD700; color: #4169E1; font: Comic; font-size:110%">Hummerrocket</span>]] [[User talk:Hummerrocket|<span style = "color: #2E8B57; font-style: italic">(talk)</span>]] 16:35, 25 November 2018 (UTC) |
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The phrase "breaking bad" apparently cannot mean "to raise hell" since it is the wrong part of speech. Additionally, Wiktionary defines the root phrase "break bad" as follows: |
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::I wondered the same thing about sections being added for the episodes not yet included. I'd definitely be interested in helping to contribute to the episode summaries if no one else is currently working on that. Great article! --[[User:LauraStephens435|LauraStephens435]] ([[User talk:LauraStephens435|talk]]) 03:12, 16 September 2020 (UTC) |
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1. (colloquial, of an event or of one's fortunes) To go wrong; to go downhill.<br> |
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2. (colloquial, especially Southern US and Midwestern US, of a person) To go bad; to turn toward immorality or crime. |
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This is substantially different from the idea of "raising hell" anyway. |
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Hopefully someone who is familiar with this expression can look at this. [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:1AD:5274:51ED:10BC|2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:1AD:5274:51ED:10BC]] ([[User talk:2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:1AD:5274:51ED:10BC|talk]]) 20:13, 23 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:The actual meaning shouldn't matter as Gilligan's interpretation is all that counts. If he thinks it means "to raise hell" and that's why he chose it for the show then that's just his misunderstaning. Perhaps a line could be added to say that this isn't the actual meaning of to break bad? [[User:FishandChipper|FishandChipper]] [[User_talk:FishandChipper|🐟]][[Special:Contributions/FishandChipper|🍟]] 09:07, 19 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::Misunderstanding the meaning of an expression is one thing; defining it in a grammatically impossible manner is a different level of error. Perhaps he thought it meant "raising hell"? [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:F9D1:D8AF:1D14:8DE9|2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:F9D1:D8AF:1D14:8DE9]] ([[User talk:2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:F9D1:D8AF:1D14:8DE9|talk]]) 00:25, 2 August 2022 (UTC) |
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:::Nope, we have to go with what Gilligan said, even if he is grammatically wrong. [[User:Masem|M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 00:27, 2 August 2022 (UTC) |
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== Changes From Was to Is == |
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Whomever decided to arbitrarily remove the dates (years of production) and also (apparently), decided to change description of past television shows from was to is without discussion and with some "secret or hidden" instructions not to change it back has literally sent searches away from Wikipedia and to other websites for searches to see if television shows are still in production. This has without a doubt been done without discussion within the PUBLIC Wikipedia community. So before changing it back, explain why you are doing so. I have come across dozens of these changes without any given reason except a coded invisible thing stating "do not change to was" [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:8A90:ECF0:C12B:82C:21EF:285E|2600:1700:8A90:ECF0:C12B:82C:21EF:285E]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:8A90:ECF0:C12B:82C:21EF:285E|talk]]) 06:02, 20 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:"Is" is correct and always has been. Please read [[WP:TVNOW]]. TV shows don't stop being a TV show just because they are complete; they still exist. You wouldn't refer to a film, novel, comic book, album, or any other piece of fiction or media as "was" once it's complete, so you wouldn't a TV series either. [[User:Drovethrughosts|Drovethrughosts]] ([[User talk:Drovethrughosts|talk]]) 12:07, 20 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:Unless all versions of the show have been destroyed and it was impossible to view it further, we treat all TV shows as existing in the present tense, across WP. See [[MOS:TENSE]] --[[User:Masem|M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 12:08, 20 July 2022 (UTC) |
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== Is this a "neo western"? == |
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Ninety percent of this is Walter White at school, Walter White at home, Walter White drives his car somewhere. It hardly seems to be a "neo western" as in a latter-day version of Shane or Fistful of Dollars. [[User:Mains Olsen|Mains Olsen]] ([[User talk:Mains Olsen|talk]]) 10:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC) |
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== Soft(ly)-spoken == |
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:I'm not sure you really watched the show. Those are pretty hyperbolic assertions of the show. You need to present a much more detailed analysis and supply much more actual evidence that contradicts the show's label as a "neo-western". Assertions like "Ninety percent of this..." isn't reliable information to go by in changing a key piece of the article's information. Provide more evidence and specificity. [[Special:Contributions/168.26.153.205|168.26.153.205]] ([[User talk:168.26.153.205|talk]]) 17:19, 6 September 2022 (UTC) |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Breaking_Bad&diff=next&oldid=953525194 This edit] changed "soft-spoken" to "softly-spoken". Yes, theoretically an adjective should be modified by an adverb, not by another adjective, but "soft-spoken" is widely used, and it's in my dictionary, while I've never heard "softly-spoken" (or seen it written, until now), and it isn't in my dictionary. I think the edit should be reverted. -- [[User:UKoch|UKoch]] ([[User talk:UKoch|talk]]) 14:14, 30 April 2020 (UTC) |
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== Pages for Todd and Lydia? == |
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:But there is "softly spoken". So either the hyphen should be deleted, or the edit should be reverted. -- [[User:UKoch|UKoch]] ([[User talk:UKoch|talk]]) 14:47, 30 April 2020 (UTC) |
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Every other main character from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul has their own dedicated Wikipedia page, other than Todd Alquist and Lydia Rodarte-Quayle. Given that they have main cast billing like everyone else who has a page and are decently important to the story's developments, I think they should have pages of their own. That being said, I don't want to go and make one without consulting other Wikipedians first. [[Special:Contributions/109.234.179.37|109.234.179.37]] ([[User talk:109.234.179.37|talk]]) 19:25, 17 October 2022 (UTC) |
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::It's been reverted. [[User:Crimsonite~enwiki|Crimsonite~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Crimsonite~enwiki|talk]]) 16:33, 30 April 2020 (UTC) |
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:We need significant development and/or reception jnformation about them...just have starring positions doesn't assure that. [[User:Masem|M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 20:23, 17 October 2022 (UTC) |
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:::OK. -- [[User:UKoch|UKoch]] ([[User talk:UKoch|talk]]) 15:17, 2 May 2020 (UTC) |
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== Add Tess Harper to "Recurring Characters" == |
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Actress Tess Harper played Diane Pinkman, Jesse's mother, per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tess_Harper Wikipedia page]. --[[User:Threadbareparson|Threadbareparson]] ([[User talk:Threadbareparson|talk]]) 07:58, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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Breaking Bad is an American neo-Western crime drama television series created and produced by Vince Gilligan. The show aired on AMC from January 20, 2008, to September 29, 2013, consisting of five seasons for a total of 62 episodes. It was set and filmed in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and tells the story of Walter White (Bryan Cranston), an underpaid, overqualified, and dispirited high school chemistry teacher who is struggling with a recent diagnosis of stage-three lung cancer. Walter turns to a life of crime, partnering with his former student Jesse Pinkman (Aaron Paul), by producing and distributing crystal meth to secure his family's financial future before he dies, while navigating the dangers of the criminal underworld. According to Gilligan, the title is a Southern colloquialism meaning "to raise hell".[9] [[Special:Contributions/41.250.57.2|41.250.57.2]] ([[User talk:41.250.57.2|talk]]) 18:29, 19 February 2022 (UTC) |
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Inadequate explanation of title
[edit]According to Gilligan, the title is a Southern colloquialism meaning "to raise hell".
The phrase "breaking bad" apparently cannot mean "to raise hell" since it is the wrong part of speech. Additionally, Wiktionary defines the root phrase "break bad" as follows:
1. (colloquial, of an event or of one's fortunes) To go wrong; to go downhill.
2. (colloquial, especially Southern US and Midwestern US, of a person) To go bad; to turn toward immorality or crime.
This is substantially different from the idea of "raising hell" anyway.
Hopefully someone who is familiar with this expression can look at this. 2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:1AD:5274:51ED:10BC (talk) 20:13, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- The actual meaning shouldn't matter as Gilligan's interpretation is all that counts. If he thinks it means "to raise hell" and that's why he chose it for the show then that's just his misunderstaning. Perhaps a line could be added to say that this isn't the actual meaning of to break bad? FishandChipper 🐟🍟 09:07, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Misunderstanding the meaning of an expression is one thing; defining it in a grammatically impossible manner is a different level of error. Perhaps he thought it meant "raising hell"? 2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:F9D1:D8AF:1D14:8DE9 (talk) 00:25, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Nope, we have to go with what Gilligan said, even if he is grammatically wrong. Masem (t) 00:27, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Misunderstanding the meaning of an expression is one thing; defining it in a grammatically impossible manner is a different level of error. Perhaps he thought it meant "raising hell"? 2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:F9D1:D8AF:1D14:8DE9 (talk) 00:25, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Changes From Was to Is
[edit]Whomever decided to arbitrarily remove the dates (years of production) and also (apparently), decided to change description of past television shows from was to is without discussion and with some "secret or hidden" instructions not to change it back has literally sent searches away from Wikipedia and to other websites for searches to see if television shows are still in production. This has without a doubt been done without discussion within the PUBLIC Wikipedia community. So before changing it back, explain why you are doing so. I have come across dozens of these changes without any given reason except a coded invisible thing stating "do not change to was" 2600:1700:8A90:ECF0:C12B:82C:21EF:285E (talk) 06:02, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- "Is" is correct and always has been. Please read WP:TVNOW. TV shows don't stop being a TV show just because they are complete; they still exist. You wouldn't refer to a film, novel, comic book, album, or any other piece of fiction or media as "was" once it's complete, so you wouldn't a TV series either. Drovethrughosts (talk) 12:07, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Unless all versions of the show have been destroyed and it was impossible to view it further, we treat all TV shows as existing in the present tense, across WP. See MOS:TENSE --Masem (t) 12:08, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Is this a "neo western"?
[edit]Ninety percent of this is Walter White at school, Walter White at home, Walter White drives his car somewhere. It hardly seems to be a "neo western" as in a latter-day version of Shane or Fistful of Dollars. Mains Olsen (talk) 10:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure you really watched the show. Those are pretty hyperbolic assertions of the show. You need to present a much more detailed analysis and supply much more actual evidence that contradicts the show's label as a "neo-western". Assertions like "Ninety percent of this..." isn't reliable information to go by in changing a key piece of the article's information. Provide more evidence and specificity. 168.26.153.205 (talk) 17:19, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Pages for Todd and Lydia?
[edit]Every other main character from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul has their own dedicated Wikipedia page, other than Todd Alquist and Lydia Rodarte-Quayle. Given that they have main cast billing like everyone else who has a page and are decently important to the story's developments, I think they should have pages of their own. That being said, I don't want to go and make one without consulting other Wikipedians first. 109.234.179.37 (talk) 19:25, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
- We need significant development and/or reception jnformation about them...just have starring positions doesn't assure that. Masem (t) 20:23, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) 02:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
Coming back to this after 9 years.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
- Is there any information on the casting process for the other actors available?
- Hank, in recovery, tracks Gale's death to Gus and the drug trade, so he plans to kill Hank Who is "he" in this sentence in the Season 4 recap?
- a remote turret and frees Jesse How does a turret kill anyone? Be more specific
- 206 TV experts? critics
- Needs info on syndication and home media releases
- Has the music used in the show been recognized in any way? How does it fit in thematically?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 12:55, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm failing this review because you have made no significant contributions to the article and have not notified the main contributors of the nomination so they could rectify any problems.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:59, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Done Did copyediting to fix bullet points #2 and #3. signed, Willondon (talk) 22:31, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Good to see. If you can address the remaining issues, feel free to ping me after you nominate it and I'll be quicker to get the review started.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:33, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Add Tess Harper to "Recurring Characters"
[edit]Actress Tess Harper played Diane Pinkman, Jesse's mother, per Wikipedia page. --Threadbareparson (talk) 07:58, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
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