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==Untitled==
This is the discussion page related to work on the Wikipedia article about the defunct Burdines Department Stores of Miami, Florida, United States.
This is the discussion page related to work on the Wikipedia article about the defunct Burdines Department Stores of Miami, Florida, United States.


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==Company Information==
==Company Information==
* Founding of the Company
*Founding of the Company
* Innovative Practices
*Innovative Practices
* Merger with Federated
*Merger with Federated
* Community Impact
*Community Impact


==Significant Events & Traditions==
==Significant Events & Traditions==
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==Former Locations==
==Former Locations==
* Original stores
*Original stores
* Acquisitions
*Acquisitions


==Miscellaneous Materials==
==Miscellaneous Materials==
* Photographs
*Photographs
* Logos
*Logos
* Related websites and offline references
*Related websites and offline references

== Page renovation complete! ==

I added a full length history, images, more links, and the logo before the Macy's merge. As for the locations, they were basically located in most Florida malls.

: While it's encouraging to see considerable development of the article on Burdines, I'm inclined to say that this or any article in Wikipedia is never immune to continuing improvement. The constantly evolving exchange of ideas and information is what makes Wikipedia so valuable. Hopefully, this is only the first of several major upgrades to this article. It keeps getting better and better! — [[User:ArkansasTraveler|ArkansasTraveler]] 14:02, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

==Clean-Up Tag==

Added tag. Numerous grammatical mistakes and stylistic problems. Factual issues. I will try to get some of these when I get a chance, but let's collaborate on this important page. [[User:Captaintruth|Captaintruth]] 00:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

It seems most mistakes have now been corrected. Is the page fine now? [[User:OtherPerson|OtherPerson]] 02:09, 10 March 2006 (UTC)Alexzero77

== Macy's stores WERE lacking in Florida ==

There were less than ten I believe. [[User:OtherPerson|OtherPerson]] 02:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


== carriage-trade store ==
"Lacking" implies there were none. If you want to say how many there were and provide a reference that what you says is true, that would probably be OK. If you are from Boca, you should remember that Macys have been pretty widespread across south florida for 10-15 years. [[User:Captaintruth|Captaintruth]] 19:35, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
This sentence in the opening paragraph is meaningless to the average reader (and missing a comma): "Historically Burdines was known as the carriage-trade store in Florida". I'm tempted to remove it but I don't know if its trying to convey something useful. Is it trying to say that the chain was previously named "The Carriage-Trade Store" or is it trying to indicate that the chain was a "carriage trade store" (I could find few references to "carriage trade stores" in Google). [[User:Eli lilly|Eli lilly]] ([[User talk:Eli lilly|talk]]) 13:10, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


:Burdines catered to a wealthier clientele than Sears or J.C. Penney. The phrase "carriage trade" is fairly commonly used to describe a store catering to the well-off. [[User:Horologium|Horologium]] <small>[[User talk:Horologium|t]]-[[Special:contributions/Horologium|c]]</small> 01:48, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but there were not as many as other department stores had. Keep in mind, Macy's isn't like Saks of Neiman Marcus. They're everywhere in other states. [[User:OtherPerson|OtherPerson]] 02:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


===Founding===
Fine. So explain that in the article(hopefully more elegantly). Don't use the ambiguous "lacking". [[User:Captaintruth|Captaintruth]] 13:50, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Any questions about my edit, please refer to [http://www.polkcountyhistory.org/pdf/june96.pdf this]link. Thanks, [[User:VictorianMutant|VictorianMutant]] ([[User talk:VictorianMutant|talk]]) 05:12, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


== Burdines was not acquired by Macy's ==
Why don't you? You do a WAY better job at writing than me. :D [[User:OtherPerson|OtherPerson]] 10:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)


Burdines was merged with Macy's not acquired by it. Much like the other regional department stores owned by [[Macy's, Inc.|Federated Retail Holdings]] the store was renamed Burdines-Macy's in 2003. Then in 2005 Burdines along with the other stores was consolidated into Macy's because Federated decided to make the store a national brand.
I don't appreciate your tone. Please see the numerous original articles I have contributed regarding south florida (mainly political figures) and my numerous quality edits. Frankly, I don't see the need for any mention of the lack of macy's stores in Florida before the merger, and that is why I have not added this language. I do recognize, however, that this is a collaborative process and am willing to compromise by not reverting some less ambiguous reference to this supposed dearth of pre-merger macy's stores. [[User:Captaintruth|Captaintruth]] 19:41, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


[[User:Matthew Cantrell|Matthew Cantrell]] ([[User talk:Matthew Cantrell|talk]]) 16:21, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
I'm not too keen on the tone, either. There are ways of communicating information you wish to share without suggesting bias or opinion in one direction or another. It's true: there were relatively few Macy's stores in relation to the number of the homegrown Burdines chain. Stating that the number of Macy's stores was "lacking" indicates — however slightly — the wish for more locations was/is present. I don't necessarily agree or disagree with this prospect itself. But like anything else without a source cited, I '''do''' disagree with inclusion of statements suggesting popular opinion without information to confirm it. I realize this probably comes across as nitpicking. The thing is, though, I hope others on Wikipedia would be willing to apply the same scrutiny to something I've written so that it could be as accurate and complete as possible. — [[User:ArkansasTraveler|ArkansasTraveler]] 14:31, 17 March 2006 (UTC)


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* Keep the current one [[User:Caldorwards4|Caldorwards4]] 12:06, April 5, 2006
* Keep the current primary logo where it is, but it might be worth putting this logo in a position farther down the page with a note on the time period in which it was used. See the page on [[AT&T]] for an example. — [[User:ArkansasTraveler|ArkansasTraveler]] 18:24, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
* Keep the current one, maybe add 2nd per [[User:ArkansasTraveler|ArkansasTraveler]] . [[User:Captaintruth|Captaintruth]] 21:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


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Meh, I won't use it since Burdines never really had a default logo. 01:18, 9 April 2006 (UTC) [[User:OtherPerson|OtherPerson]]
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Do you guys remember Burdines being called "the Florida store", I remember the stores branded as "Burdines Florida" prior to Macy's [[User:Winnebaggo|Winnebaggo]] ([[User talk:Winnebaggo|talk]]) 23:32, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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::Yes, that was their tagline in the 90's. [[User:Swatjester|<span style="color:red">⇒</span>]][[User_talk:Swatjester|<span style="font-family:Serif"><span style="color:black">SWAT</span><span style="color:goldenrod">Jester</span></span>]] <small><sup>Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!</sup></small> 23:53, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
:::https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=e659fce3bc92ad7c&sca_upv=1&rlz=1C1ONGR_enUS1098US1098&sxsrf=ACQVn0-6O8DJjCczwcX10ND8wuxz1ZAOHQ:1713657296284&q=burdines+the+florida+store&uds=AMwkrPu9mqiE7S-LDD3FJ_zB-E7cu6I1ihE2P2wgvGTgfq7lRC57jHcWGqySMOZHDcT9io-BrpcwtPpCNjqwnnO3D7yb-Z_FbRd11bcBoZrT35T_8DlPv788d7WpEVlfFkedWopVzLtbBU3HxugUaT70pMQTo09h6_jrBarUIirXM-xN1tamH-QauQdbIb6C2DSzN7-kGb3yeODWJJIc-nfebZ75ZLuTU6f0ZaA1sDgoiDQEwuuSkm9GGyb6HBRk_0dNNHKAjAWMsn_-djXh-vNACg_Sc4tIB4ocrQtvNnGgsjDroxi_dZebcdv3Bvf6PFh3WI8DCByhTE1JvC3DCE_YBpwvxVZrsA&udm=2&prmd=simnvbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj9oaXz_tGFAxWNRTABHSfSCiwQtKgLegQIEhAB&biw=1920&bih=919&dpr=1#vhid=E5HhtC4cOZ3kpM&vssid=mosaic [[User:Winnebaggo|Winnebaggo]] ([[User talk:Winnebaggo|talk]]) 23:56, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
::::Not sure what that's supposed to be telling me, but here's an example [https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/customers-walk-out-of-burdines-the-day-after-the-company-news-photo/2025685 of The Florida Store] in the branding. [[User:Swatjester|<span style="color:red">⇒</span>]][[User_talk:Swatjester|<span style="font-family:Serif"><span style="color:black">SWAT</span><span style="color:goldenrod">Jester</span></span>]] <small><sup>Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!</sup></small> 00:15, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 00:15, 21 April 2024


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This is the discussion page related to work on the Wikipedia article about the defunct Burdines Department Stores of Miami, Florida, United States.

If you have suggestions or questions regarding the article, please post here, editing the appropriate section. The following are general areas of interest that are in need of contributions.

Feel free to edit the main article if you have knowledge or can obtain knowledge in these and other pertinent areas. -- ArkansasTraveler at 68.28.91.118 22:04, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Company Information

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  • Founding of the Company
  • Innovative Practices
  • Merger with Federated
  • Community Impact

Significant Events & Traditions

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Including sponsorship of community events & celebrations

Former Locations

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  • Original stores
  • Acquisitions

Miscellaneous Materials

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  • Photographs
  • Logos
  • Related websites and offline references

carriage-trade store

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This sentence in the opening paragraph is meaningless to the average reader (and missing a comma): "Historically Burdines was known as the carriage-trade store in Florida". I'm tempted to remove it but I don't know if its trying to convey something useful. Is it trying to say that the chain was previously named "The Carriage-Trade Store" or is it trying to indicate that the chain was a "carriage trade store" (I could find few references to "carriage trade stores" in Google). Eli lilly (talk) 13:10, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Burdines catered to a wealthier clientele than Sears or J.C. Penney. The phrase "carriage trade" is fairly commonly used to describe a store catering to the well-off. Horologium t-c 01:48, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Founding

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Any questions about my edit, please refer to thislink. Thanks, VictorianMutant (talk) 05:12, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Burdines was not acquired by Macy's

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Burdines was merged with Macy's not acquired by it. Much like the other regional department stores owned by Federated Retail Holdings the store was renamed Burdines-Macy's in 2003. Then in 2005 Burdines along with the other stores was consolidated into Macy's because Federated decided to make the store a national brand.

Matthew Cantrell (talk) 16:21, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The Florida Store

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Do you guys remember Burdines being called "the Florida store", I remember the stores branded as "Burdines Florida" prior to Macy's Winnebaggo (talk) 23:32, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that was their tagline in the 90's. SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 23:53, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=e659fce3bc92ad7c&sca_upv=1&rlz=1C1ONGR_enUS1098US1098&sxsrf=ACQVn0-6O8DJjCczwcX10ND8wuxz1ZAOHQ:1713657296284&q=burdines+the+florida+store&uds=AMwkrPu9mqiE7S-LDD3FJ_zB-E7cu6I1ihE2P2wgvGTgfq7lRC57jHcWGqySMOZHDcT9io-BrpcwtPpCNjqwnnO3D7yb-Z_FbRd11bcBoZrT35T_8DlPv788d7WpEVlfFkedWopVzLtbBU3HxugUaT70pMQTo09h6_jrBarUIirXM-xN1tamH-QauQdbIb6C2DSzN7-kGb3yeODWJJIc-nfebZ75ZLuTU6f0ZaA1sDgoiDQEwuuSkm9GGyb6HBRk_0dNNHKAjAWMsn_-djXh-vNACg_Sc4tIB4ocrQtvNnGgsjDroxi_dZebcdv3Bvf6PFh3WI8DCByhTE1JvC3DCE_YBpwvxVZrsA&udm=2&prmd=simnvbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj9oaXz_tGFAxWNRTABHSfSCiwQtKgLegQIEhAB&biw=1920&bih=919&dpr=1#vhid=E5HhtC4cOZ3kpM&vssid=mosaic Winnebaggo (talk) 23:56, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure what that's supposed to be telling me, but here's an example of The Florida Store in the branding. SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 00:15, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]