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Withdrawal of adverts

Adverts may have been withdrawn from televison, but they do still appear online, eg when watching Youtube videos. I don't have a reference for this, other than one appearing most recently just a few minutes ago during my viewing.188.28.58.162 (talk) 14:59, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No surprise, given the situation in Ukraine. You must admit there is quite a strong resemblance to Vladimir Putin. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:27, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Only pulled from News breaks. Also, not Russian: https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2022-03-01/not-so-simples-russian-meerkats-aleksandr-and-sergei-pulled-from-news-ads 2.28.151.167 (talk) 23:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No association with Russia

Why are they being called "Russian"? Compare the Market, which is own by BGL Group based in Peterborough, has taken the decision to make sure the adverts do not appear close to news programmes to be "sensitive to the current situation". A spokesperson for the site said: “The Compare the Market meerkats are fictional characters. They have no association with Russia": https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2022-03-01/not-so-simples-russian-meerkats-aleksandr-and-sergei-pulled-from-news-ads 2.28.151.167 (talk) 23:56, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's generally agreed that all the characters have Russian names and speak with "Russian" accents. That's the whole basis of the pun that has been used to creates the brand name. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:08, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Black meerkat

Every other advert has got a black actor why not ? 147.147.61.102 (talk) 17:25, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Videos as Sources and Names in Bold

First thing, is it ok to use videos as a source in the context of the adverts being on YouTube? Second, is bolding the name necessary, I'm not sure and I'm tempted to keeping seeing as the article is a little wordy.62.255.165.34 (talk) 10:25, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

another thing should Australia get its own section i doubt its worthiness of its own article and it is briefly mentioned here. Is there a place where i will get a reply as i posted the above nearly 2 months ago perhaps the teahouse? 62.255.165.34 (talk) 13:33, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Meerkat Movies" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Meerkat Movies has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 2 § Meerkat Movies until a consensus is reached. Okmrman (talk) 19:09, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Withdrawal of adverts ==
-==Notability==
-Is it realy that sucsesfull, or is it just a load of [[POV]] by his fans and [[fanfic]] club.--[[Special:Contributions/82.11.90.119|82.11.90.119]] ([[User talk:82.11.90.119|talk]]) 01:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
-His [[Facebook]] even claimes he has no [[pubic hair]] or [[kids]], mad or what!--[[Special:Contributions/82.11.90.119|82.11.90.119]] ([[User talk:82.11.90.119|talk]]) 01:35, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
-I agree.--[[Special:Contributions/213.81.117.75|213.81.117.75]] ([[User talk:213.81.117.75|talk]]) 02:05, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
-Why?--[[User:Its snowing in East Asia|Its snowing in East Asia]] ([[User talk:Its snowing in East Asia|talk]]) 09:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
-They've made a fictional biography and it's already outsold the ones written by Tony Blair and Katie Price [http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Comparethemeerkatcom-Founder-Alexasandr-Orlov-Tops-Bookings-At-Amazoncouk/Article/201010415774046?f=rss]. [[Special:Contributions/85.210.186.151|85.210.186.151]] ([[User talk:85.210.186.151|talk]]) 19:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
+Adverts may have been withdrawn from televison, but they do still appear online, eg when watching Youtube videos. I don't have a reference for this, other than one appearing most recently just a few minutes ago during my viewing.[[Special:Contributions/188.28.58.162|188.28.58.162]] ([[User talk:188.28.58.162|talk]]) 14:59, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
-==Categories==
+:No surprise, given the situation in Ukraine. You must admit there is quite a strong resemblance to [[Vladimir Putin]]. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 15:27, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
-I may be being pedantic here but I don't think that Orlov can be described as a "fictional Russian person" despite being included in Category:Fictional Russian People. Either rename the category to Category:Fictional Russians (but that seems a bit extreme to accommodate a commercially inspired nonexistant meerkat), or (better) remove him. Also is it really worth having Category:Fictional Meerkats when the category contains just two articles? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:82.6.96.22|82.6.96.22]] ([[User talk:82.6.96.22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/82.6.96.22|contribs]]) 10:32, 6 March 2011‎</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
+:: Only pulled from News breaks. Also, not Russian: https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2022-03-01/not-so-simples-russian-meerkats-aleksandr-and-sergei-pulled-from-news-ads [[Special:Contributions/2.28.151.167|2.28.151.167]] ([[User talk:2.28.151.167|talk]]) 23:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
+== No association with Russia ==
-== Infobox query ==
+Why are they being called "Russian"?  Compare the Market, which is own by BGL Group based in Peterborough, has taken the decision to make sure the adverts do not appear close to news programmes to be "sensitive to the current situation".  A spokesperson for the site said: “The Compare the Market meerkats are fictional characters. They have no association with Russia": https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2022-03-01/not-so-simples-russian-meerkats-aleksandr-and-sergei-pulled-from-news-ads [[Special:Contributions/2.28.151.167|2.28.151.167]] ([[User talk:2.28.151.167|talk]]) 23:56, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
+:I think it's generally agreed that all the characters have Russian names and speak with "Russian" accents. That's the whole basis of the pun that has been used to creates the brand name. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 11:08, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
-Occupation: AristoKat/Website Owner/Actor<br>
-AristoKat? Really?<br>
-[[User:TRiG|TRiG]] ([[User talk:TRiG|talk]]) 17:51, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
-== Merge request ==
+== Black meerkat ==
-* I've taken the time to merge the few parts of this which aren't in-universe to the parent article [[comparethemarket.com]]. Nothing outside of what currently makes up the "Advertising" and "Commercial success" portions of that article is notable. This was predictably undone with the rationale "''One man's cruft is often another man's important relevant matter''": well, no. The family tree of a fictional meerkat is not something that belongs in an encyclopedia, and was (as always in these cases) cited only to primary sources. I'll be undoing the revert shortly. [[User:Thumperward|Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward)]] ([[User talk:Thumperward|talk]]) 18:48, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
-* It may be said that: something is encyclopedic if many people are likely to look in the encyclopedia for that information. Aleksandr Orlov has a large fan following. People are allowed to insert articles about Star Trek characters etc. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 22:24, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
-** I tend to agree a merge is a good idea - although perhaps an article about the entire meerkat campaign is more appropriate. Certainly the article, as named, isn't very tenable. --'''[[user:ErrantX|Errant]]''' <sup>([[User_talk:ErrantX|chat!]])</sup> 22:33, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
-* Re suggesting a merge: the real-world matter which [[User:Thumperward]] text-merged into [[comparethemarket.com]], is still there. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 05:03, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
+Every other advert has got a black actor  why not ? [[Special:Contributions/147.147.61.102|147.147.61.102]] ([[User talk:147.147.61.102|talk]]) 17:25, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
-{{od}} It's been a week. Is there any further input to suggest that we need two articles here? As already stated, the merge has already been completed from the other end ([[comparethemarket.com]] has been expanded to include everything from this article that would make it notable), so all that's needed is to re-redirect it. [[User:Thumperward|Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward)]] ([[User talk:Thumperward|talk]]) 12:10, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
+== Videos as Sources and Names in Bold==
-:I've changed my mind over this. The article here contains significantly more information than the proposed merge target (at this time). A lot of it is worth us recording. Taking that information there would probably unduely weight the argument with material about this campaign. I'd suggest a slight refocus of this article to discuss the campaign rather than (as it currently does) cover a fictional biography. --'''[[user:ErrantX|Errant]]''' <sup>([[User_talk:ErrantX|chat!]])</sup> 12:25, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
+First thing, is it ok to use videos as a source in the context of the adverts being on YouTube?
-:: It certainly contains more information, but all of it is fictional, and none of it has the slightest real-world impact (other than, tenuously, that various other members of Alexandr's "family" had toys produced of them for the campaign). We don't need a separate article simply to document what goes on in the adverts. [[User:Thumperward|Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward)]] ([[User talk:Thumperward|talk]]) 12:51, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
+Second, is bolding the name necessary, I'm not sure and I'm tempted to keeping seeing as the article is a little wordy.[[Special:Contributions/62.255.165.34|62.255.165.34]] ([[User talk:62.255.165.34|talk]]) 10:25, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
-::: Sure we can, to a limited extent! Certainly it is worth giving an overview of the campaigns to date & their content. --'''[[user:ErrantX|Errant]]''' <sup>([[User_talk:ErrantX|chat!]])</sup> 13:07, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
+:another thing should Australia get its own section i doubt its worthiness of its own article and it is briefly mentioned here. Is there a place where i will get a reply as i posted the above nearly 2 months ago perhaps the teahouse? [[Special:Contributions/62.255.165.34|62.255.165.34]] ([[User talk:62.255.165.34|talk]]) 13:33, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
-* '''two articles'''
+== "[[:Meerkat Movies]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
-: comparethemarket.com is an insurance business. It meets any amount of commercial notability.
+[[File:Information.svg|30px]]
-: The meerkat advertising campaign, call it Aleksandr Orlov or Compare the Meerkat, whichever you prefer, is also a big topic with substantial notability. Yes, some ad campaigns, their slogans and their characters are notable and sourceable.
+The redirect <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Meerkat_Movies&redirect=no Meerkat Movies]</span> has been listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|redirects for discussion]] to determine whether its use and function meets the [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirect guidelines]]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 2#Meerkat Movies}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Okmrman|Okmrman]] ([[User talk:Okmrman|talk]]) 19:09, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
-: Crucially though, we can reasonably expect our readership to be entirely split as to which article they wish to read. Very few will want to read both (and for them we have links). This would be a bad merge. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 13:10, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
-:: The merge has already taken place, insofar as that the other article now contains anything notable about the characters that this article contains. This is really a discussion about a redirect. But nevertheless, you're certainly right about the target audience. I'll stick a {{tl|copied}} up on this so as to ensure attribution doesn't get mess up if ever this gets AfDed, though. [[User:Thumperward|Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward)]] ([[User talk:Thumperward|talk]]) 13:36, 1 November 2012 (UTC)