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If it is of any consequence, S20E3, "Brian the Dog" is used from Quag to Brian. Brian's response was, "Why are you using my full name?" Perhaps IF it is notable, someone could add a secondary full name. Just food for thought to those who actively monitor the page. Coachbricewilliams28 (talk) 20:32, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

season 21 episode 16 has him outright say his middle name id edward.Muur (talk) 02:10, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Breed??

I thought that Brian was a beagle, or has that been confirmed to be incorrect? There is no citation when it says he has a white Labrador, so I don’t necessarily believe that to be true. He was even snoopy in one particular episode for Halloween, so I think somebody put false information in the article. 66.35.104.103 (talk) 22:51, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Children

In season 13 episode 13 (at least on disney plus, it's listed as 12 in the fandom) stewie gives birth to 7 of brians biological children (brian counts them at 16:00). Some of them are given names: jack, rose, finn. So these should be listed as his children as well as dylan. ElYanuki (talk) 20:09, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

in the episode "Brian is a bad father" it is shown that he has a son named dylan ChaseTOM4YT (talk) 13:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

yes thats his official son whos a reoccurring character. Still i think his 7 other should be mentioned even if they only were a one episode gag ElYanuki (talk) 17:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How does a dog have relations with a human girl and no one thinks anything of it?

Any references to discussion of this? 2601:647:667F:8610:B4EC:D18C:24C3:F24C (talk) 05:00, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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2A00:23C6:2494:1C01:E87A:C74D:6D33:1EE (talk) 13:20, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because Brian is a cartoon character. That’s probably the same reason he talks and walks on two legs and is frequently referred to as a “person” on the show. Frank Anchor 14:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+==Untitled==
-== Brian Griffin - Voice ==
+No o meno di un vostro
-I'm not so sure that the "Brian Griffin" voice is actually MacFarlane's natural speaking voice - although it is indeed very close (certainly a lot closer to his actual speaking voice than Peter, Stewie, Quagmire, etc.), I think he uses a slightly deeper register of his actual speaking voice for Brian Griffin. Watch any of MacFarlane's interviews - he sounds similar, but not exactly identical to, Brian Griffin.
-However, I haven't made any changes - I'll leave it up to others to decide if they agree with me or not.
-== Name ==
-Ive said this before but someone delete it. Brian's name is H. Brian Griffin. Stewie read his name as "H. Brian Griffin" in the episode Brian Griffin's House of Payne. Some one changed it go H Brian Griffen and then someone changed it to Herold Brian Griffin. STOP MAKING IT JUST BE BRIAN GRIFFIN.    <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.106.233.99|69.106.233.99]] ([[User talk:69.106.233.99|talk]]) 03:03, 12 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-:So far, the 'H' is a 1-shot joke and is probably not 'canon' to the character.  So, for now, it doesn't belong in this article. [[User:Dp76764|<font color="#FF0000">DP</font><font color="#0000FF">76764</font>]] ([[User Talk:Dp76764|Talk]]) 03:49, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
-Are you sure you're not going to just delete it anyhow because it disagrees with you?  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bobbyknightmare|Bobbyknightmare]] ([[User talk:Bobbyknightmare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bobbyknightmare|contribs]]) 23:12, 31 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-:[[WP:RS|Well sourced]] material will not be deleted. Just avoid [[WP:OR|original research]] and you're good. [[User:Dp76764|<font color="#FF0000">DP</font><font color="#0000FF">76764</font>]] ([[User Talk:Dp76764|Talk]]) 23:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
-go talk to the guy named him Herold he probably knows more info  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.106.233.99|69.106.233.99]] ([[User talk:69.106.233.99|talk]]) 09:38, 14 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-The Family Guy wikia page http://familyguy.wikia.com/wiki/Brian_Griffin states "The DVD commentary for "Brian Griffin's House of Payne" explains that the "H" in "H. Brian Griffin" does not stand for anything and was a way to express Brian as a pretentious douche."  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/80.192.237.215|80.192.237.215]] ([[User talk:80.192.237.215|talk]]) 19:19, 3 July 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-== breed ==
-When has it been stated that he's a labrador retriever?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.246.60.234|76.246.60.234]] ([[User talk:76.246.60.234|talk]]) 07:26, 8 August 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-He's actually said himself that he's a "RetrieverMixEasapekeBayBradoodle" In Season 7, Episode 14, "We Love You, Conrad"
-== Dab for Brian C. Griffin ==
-I added back <nowiki>{{for|the American businessman|Brian C. Griffin}}</nowiki>.  clearly this is helpful if you don't know [[Brian C. Griffin]]'s middle initial. [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 22:50, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
-:It's perfectly acceptable. As far as [[User:Reduolf13]]'s reasoning, look at [[John Kennedy (disambiguation)]] for example. <span style="background:silver;font-family:Kristen ITC;">[[User:CTF83! Alt|<font color="red">C</font><font color="#ff6600">T</font><font color="yellow">F</font><font color="green">8</font><font color="blue">3</font><font color="#6600cc">!</font>]]</span> 00:19, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
-Okay, leave it there. But John F. Kennedy (the more famous page) has the middle initial, so people could miss it out. Whereas here (Brian Griffin), there is no initial. If people are genuinely searching specifically for Brian C. Griffin (very few I'd imagine) then they'd remember the C, or correct themselves when they arrive at Brian Griffin's page.
-Anyway, you really should only have re-directs for identical names. The middle initial (C) of Brian C. Griffin, removes the identical problem. If there are more than one pages with identical titles, then you have a disambiguation page. [[User:Reduolf13|Reduolf13]].
-==Death==
-So, his death is absolutely canon, right? I believe this can absolutely confirm the death of his character. <ref>http://www.eonline.com/news/484172/family-guy-s-shocking-death-boss-reveals-why-they-decided-to-kill-off-spoiler</ref> --[[User:Matt723star|Matt723star]] ([[User talk:Matt723star|talk]]) 02:54, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
-I'm not really sure if it can be confirmed. According to the Wikipedia season 12 page, there are two upcoming episodes listing plots about Brian.  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bear300|Bear300]] ([[User talk:Bear300|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bear300|contribs]]) 03:32, 25 November 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-So the e-online article at http://www.eonline.com/news/484172/family-guy-s-shocking-death-boss-reveals-why-they-decided-to-kill-off-spoiler  is a hoax then? Of course there is nothing stopping them from changing their mind and bringing Brian back to life, or using him in flashbacks, or as a ghost. But until they do bring him back to life he is officially dead.
-There are no inline citations for any of this section of the article, nor the sentence at the beginning. [[User:Taylor2646|Taylor2646]] ([[User talk:Taylor2646|talk]]) 15:47, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
-Someone going to lock the article with "he'll likely return" as the end of the introductory paragraph?  Lame: right now we know nothing about the future episodes, it's just as possible the released info were feints to throw the fanbase off. [[Special:Contributions/163.150.50.173|163.150.50.173]] ([[User talk:163.150.50.173|talk]]) 17:48, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
-Perhaps he'll just be back during flashbacks. From all the articles I've read and even just by watching the episode alone it seems all too possible that this is a serious thing and Brian will no longer be a significant role to the show. --[[User:Matt723star|Matt723star]] ([[User talk:Matt723star|talk]]) 18:28, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
-*I have to agree with {{U|Matt723star}} here, as of I have just reverted a edit by {{U|Grapesoda22}} for adding a last appearance notice on the article's infobox, because by some of the episodes I have seen that had the main characters dead or been in bloody fighting incidents in which could lead to death, there is no possible way that it could be Brian's last appearance. <small><small><span style="border:1px solid black;background:#EFCA37;padding:4px;">[[User:Blurred Lines|<b><font color="black">Blurred</font></b>]] [[User talk:Blurred Lines|<b><font color="black">Lines</font></b>]]</span></small></small> 19:08, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
-I have a feeling that this is it for him, maybe put his last appearance as "Life of Brian", and if he comes back at all, list below the last episode for him to appear in as a flashback like "Episode Name" (flashback).  And of course, if it all is just a publicity stunt, we can always remove it, but for now it seems pretty final.  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ipodmypod300|Ipodmypod300]] ([[User talk:Ipodmypod300|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ipodmypod300|contribs]]) 04:52, 26 November 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-I say we give this a couple more episodes before we declare this as the final appearance of Brain. [[user:Bear300]]  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 05:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+== Full Name ==
-Can we remove that he's been confirmed back? Seth Macfarlane said it was a last minute decision, so the future episodes can be scraped or redone with Vinny.[[Special:Contributions/24.188.197.22|24.188.197.22]] ([[User talk:24.188.197.22|talk]]) 21:57, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
-:We have to reflect what [[WP:RS|sources say]] and they say "Brian", so that statement should remain until facts/sourcing changes. [[User:Dp76764|<font color="#FF0000">DP</font><font color="#0000FF">76764</font>]] ([[User_Talk:Dp76764|Talk]]) 22:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
-::The article is from before the episode aired (and possibly before they decided to kill Brian) and can be outdated. We should remove it as to not have possible false info and wait a few weeks until he either returns or doesn't.[[Special:Contributions/24.188.197.22|24.188.197.22]] ([[User talk:24.188.197.22|talk]]) 22:08, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
-:::At the end of this YouTube video from Fox it shows another episode was set to air on the 24th, before the "Life of Brian" epsiode was made, explaining unseen clips with Brian. www.youtube.com/vqjT1_r8oeU?t=4m53s [[Special:Contributions/24.188.197.22|24.188.197.22]] ([[User talk:24.188.197.22|talk]]) 22:18, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
-::::Apparently, the link you described, I went on it, and the video didn't seem to exist. <small><small><span style="border:1px solid black;background:#EFCA37;padding:4px;">[[User:Blurred Lines|<b><font color="black">Blurred</font></b>]] [[User talk:Blurred Lines|<b><font color="black">Lines</font></b>]]</span></small></small> 23:24, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
-:::::Youtube was being stupid, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqjT1_r8oeU, if it doesn't work, search "Family Guy Season 12 trailer and go to 4:50. It says "Into Harmony's Way" was supposed to air on the 24th.[[Special:Contributions/24.188.197.22|24.188.197.22]] ([[User talk:24.188.197.22|talk]]) 02:28, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
-To be frank, Wikipedia is looking a little bit ridiculous over this.  The dog is dead.  Any talk to the contrary is speculation.  It's fine to speculate, but Wikipedia articles shouldn't be based on speculation, it undermines its credibility.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.15.175.222|74.15.175.222]] ([[User talk:74.15.175.222|talk]]) 14:51, 2 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+If it is of any consequence, S20E3, "Brian the Dog" is used from Quag to Brian. Brian's response was, "Why are you using my full name?"  Perhaps IF it is notable, someone could add a secondary full name.  Just food for thought to those who actively monitor the page.  [[User:Coachbricewilliams28|Coachbricewilliams28]] ([[User talk:Coachbricewilliams28|talk]]) 20:32, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
-== Past tense now? ==
+:season 21 episode 16 has him outright say his middle name id edward.[[User:Muur|Muur]] ([[User talk:Muur|talk]]) 02:10, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
+== Breed?? ==
-Some paragraphs refer to Brian in the past tense. Should this be spread to all of them,  unless/until he ever returns to the show? [[User:Tátótát|Tátótát]] ([[User talk:Tátótát|talk]]) 21:32, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
+I thought that Brian was a beagle, or has that been confirmed to be incorrect? There is no citation when it says he has a white Labrador, so I don’t necessarily believe that to be true. He was even snoopy in one particular episode for Halloween, so I think somebody put false information in the article. [[Special:Contributions/66.35.104.103|66.35.104.103]] ([[User talk:66.35.104.103|talk]]) 22:51, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
-Brian is a work of fiction, and as per [[WP:TENSE]] - "Thus, generally you should write about fiction using the present tense, not the past tense." '''''[[User:Taylor Trescott|<span style="color:#B6B3FF; font-family: Courier">Taylor Trescott</span>]]''''' - <sup>[[User talk:Taylor Trescott#top|my talk]]</sup> + <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Taylor Trescott|my edits]]</sub> 21:39, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
-:I'm sorry, we need to change him to past tense.  When a human being dies, we change to past tense immediately, and sometimes revert someone doing that because no one believes it at first in sudden cases (see [[Michael Jackson]] for instance).  We can still watch music videos, listen to music, etc.  However, he's still dead.  The comment references that Brian "still exists".  This is the same thing.  We (though not me because I don't) can watch old episodes of Family Guy.  But Brian is no longer a character on the show.  He's dead.  He won't be reappearing unless there is some kind of weird time travel later in the season, and Brian then kills Vinnie.  Therefore, "was" is necessary.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 22:06, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
-::Sorry Cyclone, but [[WP:TENSE]] is clear, and we as editors cannot arbitrarily choose which fictional characters follow this rule.  One of the examples given is "Darth Vader is a fictional character from Star Wars.  He's dead too.  But he's still listed in present tense.  [[User:Kjscotte34|Kjscotte34]] ([[User talk:Kjscotte34|talk]]) 22:47, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
-::Here's the thing. "Brian Griffin is a fictional character from the animated television series Family Guy". Changing this to "was" makes no sense - he is still a fictional character, and he is still from Family Guy. '''''[[User:Taylor Trescott|<span style="color:#B6B3FF; font-family: Courier">Taylor Trescott</span>]]''''' - <sup>[[User talk:Taylor Trescott#top|my talk]]</sup> + <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Taylor Trescott|my edits]]</sub> 22:57, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
+== Children ==
-:::::::::::Should be past tense. Here are examples:
+In season 13 episode 13 (at least on disney plus, it's listed as 12 in the fandom) stewie gives birth to 7 of brians biological children (brian counts them at 16:00). Some of them are given names: jack, rose, finn. So these should be listed as his children as well as dylan. [[User:ElYanuki|ElYanuki]] ([[User talk:ElYanuki|talk]]) 20:09, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maude_Flanders#Maude_Flanders
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recurring_The_Simpsons_characters#.22Bleeding_Gums.22_Murphy  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/31.55.96.229|31.55.96.229]] ([[User talk:31.55.96.229|talk]]) 23:38, 25 November 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-*I'm only talking about the lead. The "Brian Griffin was" edits truly make me go nuts. '''''[[User:Taylor Trescott|<span style="color:#B6B3FF; font-family: Courier">Taylor Trescott</span>]]''''' - <sup>[[User talk:Taylor Trescott#top|my talk]]</sup> + <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Taylor Trescott|my edits]]</sub> 00:07, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
-The comment spacing above looks odd, so I'll continue down here.
+:in the episode "Brian is a bad father" it is shown that he has a son named dylan [[User:ChaseTOM4YT|ChaseTOM4YT]] ([[User talk:ChaseTOM4YT|talk]]) 13:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
-After some thought, I've come to agree with the use of "is" in the header.  Saying "Brian Griffin was a fictional dog" or anything else stating him as a fictional character would be effectively be suggesting that he's now a real dog, or something like that.  However, it could be implied even in the lead that he WAS the Griffin's dog as, with the introduction of Vinnie, Brian is no longer the Griffin's dog.  That and the fact that he's - er - dead.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 05:58, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
+::yes thats his official son whos a reoccurring character. Still i think his 7 other should be mentioned even if they only were a one episode gag [[User:ElYanuki|ElYanuki]] ([[User talk:ElYanuki|talk]]) 17:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
-:The 2 examples by the IP are poor. Neither say they were a character on the show. They say "was the wife" and "was a jazz musician", so it's a poor comparison. Is, is proper. <span style="background:silver;font-family:Kristen ITC;">[[User:CTF83! Alt|<font color="red">C</font><font color="#ff6600">T</font><font color="yellow">F</font><font color="green">8</font><font color="blue">3</font><font color="#6600cc">!</font>]]</span> 20:14, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
+==How does a dog have relations with a human girl and no one thinks anything of it?==
-I noticed a couple of small errors in the section detailing the Brian/Quagmire relationship, specifically Quagmire's skewering of Brian. As is : In the episode "Jerome Is the New Black", Brian learns that, despite their apparent friendship seen in episodes up to that point, Quagmire actually hates him. Brian tries to befriend Quagmire and asks why he hates him so much. Quagmire responds: "You are the worst person I know. You constantly hit on your best friend's wife, the man pays for your food and rescued you from certain death and this is how you repay him? And to add insult to injury, you defecate all over his yard. And you're such a sponge. You pay for nothing, you always say 'Oh, I'll get you later', but later never comes. And what really bothers me, is you pretend you're this deep guy who loves women for their souls, when all you do is date bimbos. Yeah, I date women for their bodies, but at least I'm honest about it. I don't buy them a copy of Catcher in the Rye and then lecture them with some seventh-grade interruption of how Holden Caulfield is some profound intellectual. He wasn't! He was a spoiled brat! And that's why you like him so much, he's you! God, you're pretentious! And you delude yourself by thinking you're some great writer even though you're terrible. You know, I should had known Cheryl Tiegs didn't write me that note. She would have known there's no 'a' in the word 'definite'. And I think what I hate most about you is your textbook liberal agenda, how we should 'legalize pot, man', how big business is crushing the underclass, how homelessness is the biggest tragedy in America. Well, what have you done to help? I work down at the soup kitchen, Brian. Never seen you down there! You wanna help? Grab a ladle! And by the way, driving a Prius doesn't make you Jesus Christ — oh, wait, you don't believe in Jesus Christ or any religion for that matter, because 'religion is for idiots!' Well, who the hell are you to talk down to anyone!? You failed college twice, which isn't nearly as bad as your failure as a father! How's that son of yours you never see? But you know what? I could forgive all of that — all of it — if you weren't such a bore! That's the worst of it, Brian. You're just a big, sad, alcoholic bore".[29]
-   I'm pretty sure Quagmire said "seventh grade INTERPRETATION", not "interruption". And "should have known" for "should had known". Small errors, easy fixes, for someone confirmed to edit locked pages. I'm a little new to this & probably botching it, but I am manxbilly & my source is my memory of the episode.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.128.219.97|74.128.219.97]] ([[User talk:74.128.219.97|talk]]) 03:46, 9 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+Any references to discussion of this? [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:667F:8610:B4EC:D18C:24C3:F24C|2601:647:667F:8610:B4EC:D18C:24C3:F24C]] ([[User talk:2601:647:667F:8610:B4EC:D18C:24C3:F24C|talk]]) 05:00, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
-== Brian's Announcement Hoax ==
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-In the article, The "message from Brian" part is inaccurate. The news reports state "A Special Announcement from Brian". And the owner of the hoax was [[Swenzy]]. Which have received large amount of notability for the hoax and for the company itself. Someone add Swenzy and the proper title of the countdown site. For proof of sourcesa and information please go to Swenzy's wiki page.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/50.162.190.150|50.162.190.150]] ([[User talk:50.162.190.150|talk]]) 07:00, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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+::Because Brian is a cartoon character.  That’s probably the same reason he talks and walks on two legs and is frequently referred to as a “person” on the show. <span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">'''[[User:Frank Anchor|<span style="color: #FF8200;">Frank</span>]] [[User talk:Frank Anchor|<span style="color: #58595B;">Anchor</span>]]'''</span> 14:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC)