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== in 'Literature' paragraph == |
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Is this true: |
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"allegations of listening to Radio Moscow or reading Russian literature were considered sufficient grounds for imprisonment." - and, if it is, could we have a citation please. I really don't know either way, but this seems rather extreme for Tito. [[User:Crocodilicus|Crocodilicus]] 02:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC) |
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several women are mentioned as having been (held) there - which surprises me, as the text said, the women camp was on a different(ly named) island. was/ is the name of the men's jail/ camp used for both, or was the prison, maybe in the later period, used for all genders? |
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Mila Jovovic grand father was imprisond by Tito on Goli otok, so he had to go to Soviet Union. Otherwise she wont be born? |
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and: in the short description for the novel "Tito's" Hawaii" a woman is said to have been/ be 'interred' there, and I was/ am wondering if that (second "r" in the word) might be a typo - my mother tongue isn't English, but I believe 'interred' would mean buried, in a grave - which of course may be possible, but maybe it was meant to say "interned", to mean: imprisoned? |
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: Actually it's true. My Grandfather went there for publishing a poem against Tito. 50 years later it was found that there was no proof at all that he wrote the poem itself... [[User:Veni Markovski|Veni]] 02:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== People killed == |
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There is no information how many people died or were killed on Goli otok under Tito's regime. |
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How many were killed is irrelevant, the only thing we know is that he didn't kill enough! |
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We do not know that unfortunately. --[[User:Pokrajac|Pockey]] 17:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC) |
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== nonpolitical prisoners? == |
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I've removed this: ''Non-political prisoners were also sent to the island. Some were sent to serve out simple criminal sentences.<ref>[http://hrvatska-kmisija-goteborg.rkkweb.nu/Pages/dusobriznik/dusobriznik_ima_rijec/Bio_sam_na_Golom_otoku.htm I was on Goli Otok]</ref>'' The quoted source doesn't provide this information, as far as I can see - please correct me if I'm wrong. <references/> --[[User:Danares|Danares]] ([[User talk:Danares|talk]]) 13:05, 13 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:It was later on a normal max-security penitentiary... --<font face="Eras Bold ITC">[[User:DIREKTOR|<font color="DimGray">DIREKTOR</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<font color="Gray">TALK</font>]])</sup></font> 13:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::Is there a valid [[WP:Verifiability|source]] for that? (ie. the ''normal'' part) --[[User:Danares|Danares]] ([[User talk:Danares|talk]]) 10:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC) |
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==Split?== |
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How about splitting the section about the prison into a separate article, like they did in [http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zatvor_Goli_otok hr.wiki]? Something titled along the lines of [[Goli otok (labor camp)]] or [[Goli otok (prison camp)]]? [[User:Timbouctou|''<span style='font-family: Georgia, serif; color:#639;'><em>Timbouctou</em></span>]] 08:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:{{u|Timbouctou}}, my thoughts too as I was reading the article. The prison, which is supposed to be a subtopic, gets more coverage in the article than the main topic anyway. [[User:GregorB|GregorB]] ([[User talk:GregorB|talk]]) 15:18, 23 April 2014 (UTC) |
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::I went ahead and renamed the article to focus on the prison. I don't think the Island is really notable at all. Unless you can find sources discussing it, then make a new article. But all that's really notable about the island is the prison. --[[User:Harizotoh9|Harizotoh9]] ([[User talk:Harizotoh9|talk]]) 05:49, 5 May 2014 (UTC) |
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:::{{u|Timbouctou}}, would you agree that the island is not notable apart from the prison? I'd still say it ''is'', even if it's uninhabited. [[User:GregorB|GregorB]] ([[User talk:GregorB|talk]]) 18:14, 2 September 2014 (UTC) |
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in 'Literature' paragraph
[edit]several women are mentioned as having been (held) there - which surprises me, as the text said, the women camp was on a different(ly named) island. was/ is the name of the men's jail/ camp used for both, or was the prison, maybe in the later period, used for all genders?
and: in the short description for the novel "Tito's" Hawaii" a woman is said to have been/ be 'interred' there, and I was/ am wondering if that (second "r" in the word) might be a typo - my mother tongue isn't English, but I believe 'interred' would mean buried, in a grave - which of course may be possible, but maybe it was meant to say "interned", to mean: imprisoned?