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==Duplication== |
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== Change page name from A-Level to A Level. == |
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For some reason the entire article had become duplicated - a version with no page breaks coming before the subtitled version. I have deleted the first occurrence and attempted to neaten up the layout slightly, but have not yet checked thoroughly for any changes between the two versions of each paragraph. Sorry if any edits have been lost - feel free to revert if anything important is missing. |
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[[User:ALexL33|ALexL33]] ([[User talk:ALexL33|talk]]) 10:33, 27 June 2010 (UTC) |
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Based on the more authoritative sources in this article (government websites, exam boards, etc.), the term 'A Level' should not be hyphenated. I have tried to move the page myself but have been unsuccessful, can anyone help me with this? [[User:PentagonPizza|PentagonPizza]] ([[User talk:PentagonPizza|talk]]) 16:49, 28 October 2022 (UTC) |
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The references in the second paragraph in the "In The UK" section are not done correctly but I do not have time to work out how to fix them at the moment - I believe they were like that before my edit however. No offense intended to whoever wrote that paragraph originally, its just a formality. |
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[[User:ALexL33|ALexL33]] ([[User talk:ALexL33|talk]]) 10:39, 27 June 2010 (UTC) |
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== Requested move 13 May 2023 == |
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==Confused== |
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Hi, on this page i didn't see any external links for people who are confused about what to choose to study with a need for careers advice. Do you know any websites you could possible add? I'm a bit stuck with what to study for a-levels myself so any websites directing to careers advisors would be good. [[User:Someone65|Someone65]] ([[User talk:Someone65|talk]]) 19:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC) |
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Under the heading "Growing Controversy", second paragraph, last sentence there is a reference to UMS. What does this stand for? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.142.62.133|24.142.62.133]] ([[User talk:24.142.62.133|talk]]) 02:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== In The UK == |
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The citation numbers are all messed up in the second paragraph and the citations don't seem to be relevant to the facts they're attached to. |
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This second paragraph is also a bit of a messy list of figures, could do with a bit of tidying up. [[User:Reketrebn|Reketrebn]] ([[User talk:Reketrebn|talk]]) 21:29, 14 July 2010 (UTC) |
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==Pre-University?== |
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As I understand it, A-levels are pre-university qualifications and are therefore not equivalent to say, an American High School, but rather to the first year of an American University Education. That said, the reason why I am bringing this up is because there is a Wikipedia article on [[Pre-University Course|pre-university]] education but the article only deals pre-university education in India. I would like to expand the scope of that article, or at least create a new one that includes A-levels, Cambridge Pre-U, etc. But before I do that, is there a general consensus that pre-university is a generic term that can refers to A-level type qualifications? Any thoughts? [[User:Danielkueh|mezzaninelounge]] ([[User talk:Danielkueh|talk]]) 19:45, 16 August 2010 (UTC) |
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== More history required re: Coursework == |
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When did A Levels introduce coursework as part of the exam? |
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Up until the 80s, at least, coursework didn't count towards the final mark in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/87.112.226.132|87.112.226.132]] ([[User talk:87.112.226.132|talk]]) 18:48, 18 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Faulty links== |
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Reference 36 should have split in its "title", rather than in the link itself. I don't know how to fix this myself so I thought I'd bring it to your attention here. |
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[[Special:Contributions/86.132.18.208|86.132.18.208]] ([[User talk:86.132.18.208|talk]]) 16:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:(Now reference number 37) [[Special:Contributions/81.156.37.115|81.156.37.115]] ([[User talk:81.156.37.115|talk]]) 22:27, 18 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::And now number 38. [[Special:Contributions/86.183.34.118|86.183.34.118]] ([[User talk:86.183.34.118|talk]]) 18:52, 6 September 2011 (UTC) |
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== The History of A Level 1951-2000 == |
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In the section of the article with this heading, the figures for the proportion of each cohort awarded a particular grade do not tally with the figures given in the source referred to in footnote 1. The figures given in the source (p. 10) are |
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A 10% |
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B 15% |
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C 10% |
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D 15% |
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E 20% |
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O-F 30% <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Graham Gould|Graham Gould]] ([[User talk:Graham Gould|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Graham Gould|contribs]]) 22:10, 31 December 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Subjects offered == |
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I have reinstated the list of subjects offered which I originally added with no sources leading to it being removed. It is in a new table showing the exam boards each subject is offered by. I'd just like to mention that there may be some errors in the OCR column as I had difficulty navigating the exam boards website properly. [[User:Fhah4|Fhah4]] ([[User talk:Fhah4|talk]]) 18:53, 26 February 2013 (UTC) |
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== Grades table == |
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The table under "[[GCE Advanced Level#Grade inflation|Grade inflation]]" lists various percentages to one decimal place (e.g., {{xt|12.7}}) but others with no decimal places (e.g., {{xtn|13}}). If these figures are meant to represent the exact percentage to one decimal place, then the decimal place should be included (e.g., {{xtn|13.0}}). Omitting the decimal place implies imprecision (i.e., {{xtn|13}} could be anywhere from 12.500 to 13.499 but {{xtn|13.0}} could only be from 12.950 to 13.049). If these figures are accurate to one decimal place, can someone please put back the missing {{xtn|.0}} in each case? <small>—'''[[User:sroc|sroc]]''' [[User talk:sroc|💬]]</small> 03:47, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} <small>—'''[[User:sroc|sroc]]''' [[User talk:sroc|💬]]</small> 08:00, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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==Requested move 10 May 2014== |
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The result of the move request was: '''page moved''' to alternative suggestion ''A-level''. See also closing comment. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 13:07, 19 May 2014 (UTC) |
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The result of the move request was: '''moved to [[A-level]].''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:ClydeFranklin|C<small>LYDE</small>]] <small>[[User talk:ClydeFranklin|<sup>TALK TO ME</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/ClydeFranklin|<sub>STUFF DONE</sub>]] (please [[Help:Talk_pages#Notifications|mention]] me on reply)</small> 00:33, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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[[:A-Level]] → {{no redirect|A level}} – Removing the hyphen per common usage and moving to sentence case. |
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[[:GCE Advanced Level]] → {{no redirect|A level}} – Per [[WP:CommonName]]. The article itself makes it clear that "A level" is overwhelmingly the name people actually use for these qualifications, with the official name being used so infrequently it makes a good quiz question ("What is the official name for A levels?"). Wikipedia naming policy is, in these cases, to use the common name rather than the official name, unless the common name is ambiguous or misleading. Given that [[A level]] and [[A-level]] are straightforward redirects to this page, I think it's fair to say that we haven't found them ambiguous or misleading names. [[Special:Contributions/86.146.28.229|86.146.28.229]] ([[User talk:86.146.28.229|talk]]) 10:27, 10 May 2014 (UTC) |
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The spelling with no hyphen and a lowercase "L" is used by [https://www.dictionary.com/browse/a-level dictionary.com], [https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/a-level the Cambridge Dictionary], [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/A%20level Merriam Webster], [https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/a-level the Collins English Dictionary], [https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/a-level the Macmillan Dictionary], and [https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/A-level the Britannica Dictionary]. The spelling with the hyphen and a lowercase "L" is used only by the [https://public.oed.com/teaching-resources/a-level/ The Oxford English Dictionary]). <nowiki>:</nowiki>3 [[User:Freedom4U|F4U]] ([[User talk:Freedom4U|they]][[Special:Contributions/Freedom4U|/it]]) 19:12, 13 May 2023 (UTC)<small>— '''''Relisting.''''' <span style="font-family:Monospace;color:black">>>> [[User:Extorc|<span style="color:purple">Extorc</span>]].[[User_talk:Extorc|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</span> 18:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC)</small> <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:ClydeFranklin|C<small>LYDE</small>]] <small>[[User talk:ClydeFranklin|<sup>TALK TO ME</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/ClydeFranklin|<sub>STUFF DONE</sub>]] (please [[Help:Talk_pages#Notifications|mention]] me on reply)</small> 23:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC)</small> <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' <span style="background-color: orange; color: green">[[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]]</span> <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 23:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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===Survey=== |
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* '''Oppose''' per [[MOS:RETAIN]] and [[WP:ENGVAR]]. --[[Special:Contributions/112.204.206.165|112.204.206.165]] ([[User talk:112.204.206.165|talk]]) 04:28, 15 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Support'''. Clearly the [[WP:COMMONNAME]], we don't need to use the [[WP:OFFICIALNAME]]. [https://www.google.com/search?q=A+level&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1] vs [https://www.google.com/search?q=GCE+Advanced+Level&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1]. No issue with [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] as [[A Level]] already redirects here. [[User:Zarcadia|Zarcadia]] ([[User talk:Zarcadia|talk]]) 13:19, 10 May 2014 (UTC) |
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*:How is this a matter of [[WP:ENGVAR]]? The article title isn't in sentence case, which is already an issue, and there's no evidence to suggest that the proposed title is a matter of national English variants. <nowiki>:</nowiki>3 [[User:Freedom4U|F4U]] ([[User talk:Freedom4U|they]][[Special:Contributions/Freedom4U|/it]]) 21:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Can we do [[A-level]] instead?''' "A level" to me, is, well, a [[level]]. But if sources really prefer the unhyphenated version, that's okay too. [[User:Red Slash|<span style="color:#FF4131;">Red </span>]][[User talk:Red Slash|<b style="color:#460121;">Slash</b>]] 16:30, 10 May 2014 (UTC) |
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*::See discussion below from {{u|Walt Yoder}}. [[Special:Contributions/112.204.206.165|112.204.206.165]] ([[User talk:112.204.206.165|talk]]) 03:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*::: I have no idea how ENGVAR comes into play. Americans rarely talk about A-levels at all, and I don't claim to know if other non-UK countries capitalize it differently. [[User:Walt Yoder|Walt Yoder]] ([[User talk:Walt Yoder|talk]]) 16:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' [[A-Level]]/[[A-level]] with dash/hyphen. Not sure about the finer points of capitalisation and punctuation regarding this one. <small>[[Special:Contributions/Victor_falk|<sup style="color:green;">''walk''</sup>]]</small> [[user:victor falk|<i style="color:green;">victor falk</i>]]<sup><small> [[user_talk:victor falk|<i style="color:green;">talk</i>]]</small></sup> 10:39, 19 May 2014 (UTC) |
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* '''Comment''' I think it should match the article title for O-Levels, [[GCE Ordinary Level]]; so this should be called [[GCE Advanced Level]] -- [[Special:Contributions/64.229.90.172|64.229.90.172]] ([[User talk:64.229.90.172|talk]]) 06:32, 21 May 2023 (UTC) |
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* '''Oppose''' the proposed title scans as if it is referring to "a level" in a video game. From Google search results, there seems to be a wide spread of usage, with {{tq|A-level}} and {{tq|A Level}} the most common. [[User:Walt Yoder|Walt Yoder]] ([[User talk:Walt Yoder|talk]]) 03:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*:I actually do understand the potential for confusion with a "level". Maybe "A-level" is the best title here then, since that would put it in sentence case and minimize potential for confusion. <nowiki>:</nowiki>3 [[User:Freedom4U|F4U]] ([[User talk:Freedom4U|they]][[Special:Contributions/Freedom4U|/it]]) 22:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Move to [[A-level]]''' per above. The "level" part is not generally capitalised in sources: [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=a-level&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=true] — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 13:17, 26 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*:There's a lot of previous discussions in [[Talk:A-Level/Archive 1]] for moving this article title. [[Special:Contributions/112.204.197.139|112.204.197.139]] ([[User talk:112.204.197.139|talk]]) 09:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:<small>'''Relisting comment''': [[GCE Advanced Level]] or [[A-level]]? [[User:ClydeFranklin|C<small>LYDE</small>]] <small>[[User talk:ClydeFranklin|<sup>TALK TO ME</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/ClydeFranklin|<sub>STUFF DONE</sub>]] (please [[Help:Talk_pages#Notifications|mention]] me on reply)</small> 23:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small>'''Relisting comment''': Still unclear on consensus here. <span style="background-color: orange; color: green">[[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]]</span> <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 23:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Support [[A-level]]''' per common usage. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 12:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC) |
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* '''Comment''' The [https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/276286?redirectedFrom=A-Level&p=emailA8xaJrqOjGZFg&d=276286 OED] says it is ''A level''. [[User:Martin Tauchman|Martin Tauchman]] ([[User talk:Martin Tauchman|talk]]) 15:19, 7 June 2023 (UTC) |
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===Discussion=== |
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*:Perhaps, but an ngram assessing all the options suggests that A-level is by some distance yhe most common across all books.[https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=A+level+exams%2CA-level+exams%2C+A+Level+exams%2CA-Level+exams&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3] — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 17:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:''Any additional comments:'' |
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*::Also in King's School. Canterbury: [https://www.kings-school.co.uk/academic/results/] they uses "A-Level". [[Special:Contributions/112.198.121.177|112.198.121.177]] ([[User talk:112.198.121.177|talk]]) 11:14, 9 June 2023 (UTC) |
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'''Closing comment''': Note that the record of a previous move from this name ''18:56, 28 August 2006 J Di (talk | contribs | block) . . (28 bytes) (+28) . . (moved A-level to Advanced Level: the article about GCSEs is at General Certificate of Secondary Education, not GCSE)'' has been overwritten by this move. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 13:07, 19 May 2014 (UTC) |
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== TYPO or small mistake in the [[A-level#Nepal|Nepal]] sub-section == |
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== The Hong Kong section is an opinion, backed by some information == |
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The last sentence in the [[A-level#Nepal]] sub-section begins with<blockquote>In Nepali, students generally appear [...]</blockquote>which is not correct. |
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This does not seem to be NPOV, but a response to another claim somewhere else. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/174.73.22.113|174.73.22.113]] ([[User talk:174.73.22.113|talk]]) 23:49, 8 June 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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As shown by the quote<blockquote>"People who live in Nepal, we call them Nepali,"</blockquote>from https://www.sbs.com.au/language/nepali/en/article/youve-been-getting-our-name-wrong-says-nepals-foreign-minister/pp6bznae5 (Disclosure: that quote -- and that web page -- were both found via the S.R.P. ["search results page"] https://www.google.com/search?q=%2BNepali%2C+Nepal under "People also ask:" / "What do you call a person from Nepal?"), it is clear that either '''[a]''' the final letter of the word "Nepali" should be deleted, or else '''[b]''' the first word ("In") of that sentence, '''and''' the first comma of that sentence, should ''both'' be deleted. |
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:Agree. It is also not written in an encyclopedic tone. [[User:Djagr|Djagr]] ([[User talk:Djagr|talk]]) 12:21, 13 March 2016 (UTC) |
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I do not care which solution is chosen, but clearly the current version is not correct. |
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== Requested move 23 October 2015 == |
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The result of the move request was: '''Not moved''' per consensus here, and evaluating the 2014 proposal between A Level and A-level also support keeping the page with it's current name. {{rmnac}} [[User:Tiggerjay|Tiggerjay]] ([[User talk:Tiggerjay|talk]]) 21:16, 31 October 2015 (UTC) |
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[[:A-level]] → {{no redirect|A Level}} – The hyphenated form is presumed to be adjectival. The proposed capitalised noun form is more encyclopedic and is consistent with the terms used in the article. [[User:Bjenks|Bjenks]] ([[User talk:Bjenks|talk]]) 01:02, 23 October 2015 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' this makes it distinctive, instead of appearing as ''a level'' ([[level]]) -- [[Special:Contributions/70.51.44.60|70.51.44.60]] ([[User talk:70.51.44.60|talk]]) 06:21, 23 October 2015 (UTC) |
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**We already have [[A road]], [[A unit]], [[A major]], [[A minor]] and [[A share]]. [[User:Peter James|Peter James]] ([[User talk:Peter James|talk]]) 10:22, 24 October 2015 (UTC) |
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*** Yeah, those also suck. [[A-unit]], [[A-major]], [[A-minor]], [[Class-A share]] would be better; [[a road]] is a disambiguation page, so it ok as it is, since it isn't a topic article, it is a dpage -- [[Special:Contributions/70.51.44.60|70.51.44.60]] ([[User talk:70.51.44.60|talk]]) 09:10, 27 October 2015 (UTC) |
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*'''Weak oppose''' it looks like both are equally acceptable, and it probably was adjectival at first, as it's a qualification, not a level, but in the plural form (as used by [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/2190696.stm BBC news]) is clearly a noun. [[User:Peter James|Peter James]] ([[User talk:Peter James|talk]]) 10:22, 24 October 2015 (UTC) |
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== New A-Levels == |
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I propose to add information about the new A-Levels introduced from 2017 onwards. ([https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/get-the-facts-gcse-and-a-level-reform/get-the-facts-as-and-a-level-reform see here for details]). (I do not know enough about this and am probably not experienced enough to add it myself and format it in the the right way but I think it would be important to mention it). [[User:Edward1612|Edward1612]] ([[User talk:Edward1612|talk]]) 19:23, 7 July 2017 (UTC) |
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There's a basic problem in this article of assuming people already know what terms like "sixth form" mean. Actually, if you're not from countries that use this term like myself then you don't know what this is. I have no idea what age this refers to (16, 17, 18). It's a common problem on Wikipedia where people from particular countries just assume the entire world knows what terms like this refer to and then the article becomes inaccessible. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/159.253.162.8|159.253.162.8]] ([[User talk:159.253.162.8#top|talk]]) 10:08, 23 July 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I concur. [[User:Arosa|Arosa]] ([[User talk:Arosa|talk]]) 02:57, 17 August 2020 (UTC) |
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== Information repeated twice. Should we merge? == |
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Details on the UK A level reforms are mentioned in the intro and again under the section "current uses." Both are very similar. We should move combine the information (on reforms), in the intro, with the information, under the "England A level reforms," subheading in the "current uses," subcategory. This will means that the information is not repeated. [[User:Bigboxman8|Bigboxman8]] ([[User talk:Bigboxman8|talk]]) 12:19, 11 February 2019 (UTC) |
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Made changes. Feel free to edit the section on UK reforms (under the "current uses," subcategory) if details are missing. [[User:Bigboxman8|Bigboxman8]] ([[User talk:Bigboxman8|talk]]) 12:39, 11 February 2019 (UTC) |
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== Total lack or references in the national sections == |
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The sections are so well written but must be deleted as unreferenced text! Could the authors protect their work by sharing the references. Top bar of this edit-source editor- press cite, then select Templates tab- and from then on its all done for you. --[[User:ClemRutter|ClemRutter]] ([[User talk:ClemRutter|talk]]) 21:30, 16 November 2020 (UTC) |
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== Requested move 12 June 2021 == |
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The result of the move request was: '''moved.''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:Lennart97|Lennart97]] ([[User talk:Lennart97|talk]]) 11:43, 28 June 2021 (UTC) |
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[[:GCE Advanced Level]] → {{no redirect|A-Level}} – Moved in 2016 ignoring a RM consensus to keep at A-Level (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=A-level&action=history]). A-Level is now a redirect so I can't move the page back to it. — [[User:Berrely|<span style="color:#000">'''''Berrely'''''</span>]] • [[User talk:Berrely|<sup>Talk</sup>]]∕[[Special:Contribs/Berrely|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 12:36, 12 June 2021 (UTC) <small>—'''''Relisting.''''' ([[User talk:Buidhe|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Buidhe|c]]) '''[[User:buidhe|<span style="color: black">buidhe</span>]]''' 05:49, 21 June 2021 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small>This is a contested technical request ([[Special:Permalink/1028211553|permalink]]). '''[[User:Sam Sailor|Sam]] [[User talk:Sam Sailor|Sailor]]''' 15:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)</small> |
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:{{Comment|Five years is a considerable amount of time with nobody objecting, but let's here what people say. '''[[User:Sam Sailor|Sam]] [[User talk:Sam Sailor|Sailor]]''' 15:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)}} |
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* Are there sources using these respective names? [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 03:50, 20 June 2021 (UTC) |
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* '''Support''' - A Level is the [[WP:COMMONNAME]] and is ubiquitous in the country of focus for this article. Most of the sources for this article appear to use "A Level". GCE Advanced Level is an [[WP:OFFICIALNAMES|official name]] to which we should not give too much weight. <b style="line-height:1.1;display:inline-block;transform:skew(-14deg);border-radius:2em;border:solid#34c 1px;overflow:hidden">[[User:Mysterymanblue|<b style="color:#fff;background:#34c"> Mysteryman</b>]][[User talk:Mysterymanblue|blue ]]</b> 07:08, 21 June 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''support''' clear [[wp:commonname]][[User:Blindlynx|—blindlynx]] ([[User talk:Blindlynx|talk]]) 14:36, 22 June 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' As a North American, I heard of "A Level" long before its [[WP:OFFICIALNAMES|official name]] [[User:Toomuchcuriosity|Toomuchcuriosity]] ([[User talk:Toomuchcuriosity|talk]]) 18:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC) |
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Any comments? [[User:Mike Schwartz|Mike Schwartz]] ([[User talk:Mike Schwartz|talk]]) 04:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:I fixed it. I chose solution '''[b]'''. |
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I appreciate that this issue has been discussed before, but shouldn't the article name be unhyphenated "A level" to match the usage in the lead? It is also the [https://www.gov.uk/guidance/regulating-gcses-as-and-a-levels-guide-for-schools-and-colleges-2022 spelling used by the Department for Education] If Wikipedia used the correct form it would assist in encouraging the proper usage. And if I'm wrong, then shouldn't the first sentence of the lead and other similar instances in the article be changed accordingly in order to be consistent? [[User:JezGrove|JezGrove]] ([[User talk:JezGrove|talk]]) 18:31, 15 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:The DIFF can be seen at https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=A-level&diff=1225027248&oldid=1220988438 |
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:Any comments? --[[User:Mike Schwartz|Mike Schwartz]] ([[User talk:Mike Schwartz|talk]]) 22:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC) |
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On 12 June 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from GCE Advanced Level to A-Level. The result of the discussion was moved. |
On 13 May 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to A level. The result of the discussion was moved to A-level. |
Change page name from A-Level to A Level.
[edit]Based on the more authoritative sources in this article (government websites, exam boards, etc.), the term 'A Level' should not be hyphenated. I have tried to move the page myself but have been unsuccessful, can anyone help me with this? PentagonPizza (talk) 16:49, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 13 May 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved to A-level. (closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 00:33, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
A-Level → A level – Removing the hyphen per common usage and moving to sentence case.
The spelling with no hyphen and a lowercase "L" is used by dictionary.com, the Cambridge Dictionary, Merriam Webster, the Collins English Dictionary, the Macmillan Dictionary, and the Britannica Dictionary. The spelling with the hyphen and a lowercase "L" is used only by the The Oxford English Dictionary). :3 F4U (they/it) 19:12, 13 May 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 18:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 23:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. EggRoll97 (talk) 23:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per MOS:RETAIN and WP:ENGVAR. --112.204.206.165 (talk) 04:28, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- How is this a matter of WP:ENGVAR? The article title isn't in sentence case, which is already an issue, and there's no evidence to suggest that the proposed title is a matter of national English variants. :3 F4U (they/it) 21:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- See discussion below from Walt Yoder. 112.204.206.165 (talk) 03:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have no idea how ENGVAR comes into play. Americans rarely talk about A-levels at all, and I don't claim to know if other non-UK countries capitalize it differently. Walt Yoder (talk) 16:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- See discussion below from Walt Yoder. 112.204.206.165 (talk) 03:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- How is this a matter of WP:ENGVAR? The article title isn't in sentence case, which is already an issue, and there's no evidence to suggest that the proposed title is a matter of national English variants. :3 F4U (they/it) 21:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I think it should match the article title for O-Levels, GCE Ordinary Level; so this should be called GCE Advanced Level -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 06:32, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose the proposed title scans as if it is referring to "a level" in a video game. From Google search results, there seems to be a wide spread of usage, with
A-level
andA Level
the most common. Walt Yoder (talk) 03:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC)- I actually do understand the potential for confusion with a "level". Maybe "A-level" is the best title here then, since that would put it in sentence case and minimize potential for confusion. :3 F4U (they/it) 22:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Move to A-level per above. The "level" part is not generally capitalised in sources: [1] — Amakuru (talk) 13:17, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- There's a lot of previous discussions in Talk:A-Level/Archive 1 for moving this article title. 112.204.197.139 (talk) 09:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: GCE Advanced Level or A-level? CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 23:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: Still unclear on consensus here. EggRoll97 (talk) 23:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support A-level per common usage. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment The OED says it is A level. Martin Tauchman (talk) 15:19, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but an ngram assessing all the options suggests that A-level is by some distance yhe most common across all books.[2] — Amakuru (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Also in King's School. Canterbury: [3] they uses "A-Level". 112.198.121.177 (talk) 11:14, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but an ngram assessing all the options suggests that A-level is by some distance yhe most common across all books.[2] — Amakuru (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
The last sentence in the A-level#Nepal sub-section begins with
In Nepali, students generally appear [...]
which is not correct. As shown by the quote
"People who live in Nepal, we call them Nepali,"
from https://www.sbs.com.au/language/nepali/en/article/youve-been-getting-our-name-wrong-says-nepals-foreign-minister/pp6bznae5 (Disclosure: that quote -- and that web page -- were both found via the S.R.P. ["search results page"] https://www.google.com/search?q=%2BNepali%2C+Nepal under "People also ask:" / "What do you call a person from Nepal?"), it is clear that either [a] the final letter of the word "Nepali" should be deleted, or else [b] the first word ("In") of that sentence, and the first comma of that sentence, should both be deleted.
I do not care which solution is chosen, but clearly the current version is not correct.
Any comments? Mike Schwartz (talk) 04:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- I fixed it. I chose solution [b].
- The DIFF can be seen at https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=A-level&diff=1225027248&oldid=1220988438
- Resolved– case closed
- Any comments? --Mike Schwartz (talk) 22:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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