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== Change page name from A-Level to A Level. == |
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Based on the more authoritative sources in this article (government websites, exam boards, etc.), the term 'A Level' should not be hyphenated. I have tried to move the page myself but have been unsuccessful, can anyone help me with this? [[User:PentagonPizza|PentagonPizza]] ([[User talk:PentagonPizza|talk]]) 16:49, 28 October 2022 (UTC) |
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== Requested move 13 May 2023 == |
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The result of the move request was: '''moved to [[A-level]].''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:ClydeFranklin|C<small>LYDE</small>]] <small>[[User talk:ClydeFranklin|<sup>TALK TO ME</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/ClydeFranklin|<sub>STUFF DONE</sub>]] (please [[Help:Talk_pages#Notifications|mention]] me on reply)</small> 00:33, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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[[:A-Level]] → {{no redirect|A level}} – Removing the hyphen per common usage and moving to sentence case. |
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The spelling with no hyphen and a lowercase "L" is used by [https://www.dictionary.com/browse/a-level dictionary.com], [https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/a-level the Cambridge Dictionary], [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/A%20level Merriam Webster], [https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/a-level the Collins English Dictionary], [https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/a-level the Macmillan Dictionary], and [https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/A-level the Britannica Dictionary]. The spelling with the hyphen and a lowercase "L" is used only by the [https://public.oed.com/teaching-resources/a-level/ The Oxford English Dictionary]). <nowiki>:</nowiki>3 [[User:Freedom4U|F4U]] ([[User talk:Freedom4U|they]][[Special:Contributions/Freedom4U|/it]]) 19:12, 13 May 2023 (UTC)<small>— '''''Relisting.''''' <span style="font-family:Monospace;color:black">>>> [[User:Extorc|<span style="color:purple">Extorc</span>]].[[User_talk:Extorc|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</span> 18:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC)</small> <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:ClydeFranklin|C<small>LYDE</small>]] <small>[[User talk:ClydeFranklin|<sup>TALK TO ME</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/ClydeFranklin|<sub>STUFF DONE</sub>]] (please [[Help:Talk_pages#Notifications|mention]] me on reply)</small> 23:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC)</small> <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' <span style="background-color: orange; color: green">[[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]]</span> <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 23:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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* '''Oppose''' per [[MOS:RETAIN]] and [[WP:ENGVAR]]. --[[Special:Contributions/112.204.206.165|112.204.206.165]] ([[User talk:112.204.206.165|talk]]) 04:28, 15 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*:How is this a matter of [[WP:ENGVAR]]? The article title isn't in sentence case, which is already an issue, and there's no evidence to suggest that the proposed title is a matter of national English variants. <nowiki>:</nowiki>3 [[User:Freedom4U|F4U]] ([[User talk:Freedom4U|they]][[Special:Contributions/Freedom4U|/it]]) 21:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*::See discussion below from {{u|Walt Yoder}}. [[Special:Contributions/112.204.206.165|112.204.206.165]] ([[User talk:112.204.206.165|talk]]) 03:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*::: I have no idea how ENGVAR comes into play. Americans rarely talk about A-levels at all, and I don't claim to know if other non-UK countries capitalize it differently. [[User:Walt Yoder|Walt Yoder]] ([[User talk:Walt Yoder|talk]]) 16:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
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* '''Comment''' I think it should match the article title for O-Levels, [[GCE Ordinary Level]]; so this should be called [[GCE Advanced Level]] -- [[Special:Contributions/64.229.90.172|64.229.90.172]] ([[User talk:64.229.90.172|talk]]) 06:32, 21 May 2023 (UTC) |
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* '''Oppose''' the proposed title scans as if it is referring to "a level" in a video game. From Google search results, there seems to be a wide spread of usage, with {{tq|A-level}} and {{tq|A Level}} the most common. [[User:Walt Yoder|Walt Yoder]] ([[User talk:Walt Yoder|talk]]) 03:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*:I actually do understand the potential for confusion with a "level". Maybe "A-level" is the best title here then, since that would put it in sentence case and minimize potential for confusion. <nowiki>:</nowiki>3 [[User:Freedom4U|F4U]] ([[User talk:Freedom4U|they]][[Special:Contributions/Freedom4U|/it]]) 22:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Move to [[A-level]]''' per above. The "level" part is not generally capitalised in sources: [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=a-level&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=true] — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 13:17, 26 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*:There's a lot of previous discussions in [[Talk:A-Level/Archive 1]] for moving this article title. [[Special:Contributions/112.204.197.139|112.204.197.139]] ([[User talk:112.204.197.139|talk]]) 09:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:<small>'''Relisting comment''': [[GCE Advanced Level]] or [[A-level]]? [[User:ClydeFranklin|C<small>LYDE</small>]] <small>[[User talk:ClydeFranklin|<sup>TALK TO ME</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/ClydeFranklin|<sub>STUFF DONE</sub>]] (please [[Help:Talk_pages#Notifications|mention]] me on reply)</small> 23:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small>'''Relisting comment''': Still unclear on consensus here. <span style="background-color: orange; color: green">[[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]]</span> <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 23:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Support [[A-level]]''' per common usage. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 12:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC) |
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* '''Comment''' The [https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/276286?redirectedFrom=A-Level&p=emailA8xaJrqOjGZFg&d=276286 OED] says it is ''A level''. [[User:Martin Tauchman|Martin Tauchman]] ([[User talk:Martin Tauchman|talk]]) 15:19, 7 June 2023 (UTC) |
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*:Perhaps, but an ngram assessing all the options suggests that A-level is by some distance yhe most common across all books.[https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=A+level+exams%2CA-level+exams%2C+A+Level+exams%2CA-Level+exams&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3] — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 17:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC) |
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*::Also in King's School. Canterbury: [https://www.kings-school.co.uk/academic/results/] they uses "A-Level". [[Special:Contributions/112.198.121.177|112.198.121.177]] ([[User talk:112.198.121.177|talk]]) 11:14, 9 June 2023 (UTC) |
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== TYPO or small mistake in the [[A-level#Nepal|Nepal]] sub-section == |
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The last sentence in the [[A-level#Nepal]] sub-section begins with<blockquote>In Nepali, students generally appear [...]</blockquote>which is not correct. |
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As shown by the quote<blockquote>"People who live in Nepal, we call them Nepali,"</blockquote>from https://www.sbs.com.au/language/nepali/en/article/youve-been-getting-our-name-wrong-says-nepals-foreign-minister/pp6bznae5 (Disclosure: that quote -- and that web page -- were both found via the S.R.P. ["search results page"] https://www.google.com/search?q=%2BNepali%2C+Nepal under "People also ask:" / "What do you call a person from Nepal?"), it is clear that either '''[a]''' the final letter of the word "Nepali" should be deleted, or else '''[b]''' the first word ("In") of that sentence, '''and''' the first comma of that sentence, should ''both'' be deleted. |
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I do not care which solution is chosen, but clearly the current version is not correct. |
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Any comments? [[User:Mike Schwartz|Mike Schwartz]] ([[User talk:Mike Schwartz|talk]]) 04:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:I fixed it. I chose solution '''[b]'''. |
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:The DIFF can be seen at https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=A-level&diff=1225027248&oldid=1220988438 |
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:{{resolved|case closed}} |
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:Any comments? --[[User:Mike Schwartz|Mike Schwartz]] ([[User talk:Mike Schwartz|talk]]) 22:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC) |
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On 12 June 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from GCE Advanced Level to A-Level. The result of the discussion was moved. |
On 13 May 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to A level. The result of the discussion was moved to A-level. |
Change page name from A-Level to A Level.
[edit]Based on the more authoritative sources in this article (government websites, exam boards, etc.), the term 'A Level' should not be hyphenated. I have tried to move the page myself but have been unsuccessful, can anyone help me with this? PentagonPizza (talk) 16:49, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 13 May 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved to A-level. (closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 00:33, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
A-Level → A level – Removing the hyphen per common usage and moving to sentence case.
The spelling with no hyphen and a lowercase "L" is used by dictionary.com, the Cambridge Dictionary, Merriam Webster, the Collins English Dictionary, the Macmillan Dictionary, and the Britannica Dictionary. The spelling with the hyphen and a lowercase "L" is used only by the The Oxford English Dictionary). :3 F4U (they/it) 19:12, 13 May 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 18:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 23:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. EggRoll97 (talk) 23:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per MOS:RETAIN and WP:ENGVAR. --112.204.206.165 (talk) 04:28, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- How is this a matter of WP:ENGVAR? The article title isn't in sentence case, which is already an issue, and there's no evidence to suggest that the proposed title is a matter of national English variants. :3 F4U (they/it) 21:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- See discussion below from Walt Yoder. 112.204.206.165 (talk) 03:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have no idea how ENGVAR comes into play. Americans rarely talk about A-levels at all, and I don't claim to know if other non-UK countries capitalize it differently. Walt Yoder (talk) 16:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- See discussion below from Walt Yoder. 112.204.206.165 (talk) 03:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- How is this a matter of WP:ENGVAR? The article title isn't in sentence case, which is already an issue, and there's no evidence to suggest that the proposed title is a matter of national English variants. :3 F4U (they/it) 21:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I think it should match the article title for O-Levels, GCE Ordinary Level; so this should be called GCE Advanced Level -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 06:32, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose the proposed title scans as if it is referring to "a level" in a video game. From Google search results, there seems to be a wide spread of usage, with
A-level
andA Level
the most common. Walt Yoder (talk) 03:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC)- I actually do understand the potential for confusion with a "level". Maybe "A-level" is the best title here then, since that would put it in sentence case and minimize potential for confusion. :3 F4U (they/it) 22:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Move to A-level per above. The "level" part is not generally capitalised in sources: [1] — Amakuru (talk) 13:17, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- There's a lot of previous discussions in Talk:A-Level/Archive 1 for moving this article title. 112.204.197.139 (talk) 09:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: GCE Advanced Level or A-level? CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 23:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: Still unclear on consensus here. EggRoll97 (talk) 23:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support A-level per common usage. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment The OED says it is A level. Martin Tauchman (talk) 15:19, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but an ngram assessing all the options suggests that A-level is by some distance yhe most common across all books.[2] — Amakuru (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Also in King's School. Canterbury: [3] they uses "A-Level". 112.198.121.177 (talk) 11:14, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but an ngram assessing all the options suggests that A-level is by some distance yhe most common across all books.[2] — Amakuru (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
The last sentence in the A-level#Nepal sub-section begins with
In Nepali, students generally appear [...]
which is not correct. As shown by the quote
"People who live in Nepal, we call them Nepali,"
from https://www.sbs.com.au/language/nepali/en/article/youve-been-getting-our-name-wrong-says-nepals-foreign-minister/pp6bznae5 (Disclosure: that quote -- and that web page -- were both found via the S.R.P. ["search results page"] https://www.google.com/search?q=%2BNepali%2C+Nepal under "People also ask:" / "What do you call a person from Nepal?"), it is clear that either [a] the final letter of the word "Nepali" should be deleted, or else [b] the first word ("In") of that sentence, and the first comma of that sentence, should both be deleted.
I do not care which solution is chosen, but clearly the current version is not correct.
Any comments? Mike Schwartz (talk) 04:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- I fixed it. I chose solution [b].
- The DIFF can be seen at https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=A-level&diff=1225027248&oldid=1220988438
- Resolved– case closed
- Any comments? --Mike Schwartz (talk) 22:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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