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* As it now stands, this disambiguation page is misleading. If I came here looking for information about Advanced Levels in any country in the world other than the UK or Hong Kong, I would be led to believe that there is no Wikipedia article relevant to my search. In fact, however, the [[Advanced Level (UK)]] article does discuss the systems used in other Commonwealth countries, although perhaps not yet in sufficient detail. It would be better to be sent to that article than to suggest that there is no article available at all. --[[User:R'n'B|Russ]] [[User talk:R'n'B|(talk)]] 17:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC) |
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== Change page name from A-Level to A Level. == |
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== Introduction == |
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Based on the more authoritative sources in this article (government websites, exam boards, etc.), the term 'A Level' should not be hyphenated. I have tried to move the page myself but have been unsuccessful, can anyone help me with this? [[User:PentagonPizza|PentagonPizza]] ([[User talk:PentagonPizza|talk]]) 16:49, 28 October 2022 (UTC) |
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Just made a fairly major edit to the first few introduction paragraphs as the previous section was a bit all over the place. I've tried to group related information, remove repeated info, and improve the flow and language. The last paragraph could probably do with some work as well. It's an improvement on the previous intro but feel free to comment/discuss/edit. |
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[[User:Speedy McG|Speedy McG]] ([[User talk:Speedy McG|talk]]) 18:36, 6 December 2008 (UTC) |
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== Requested move 13 May 2023 == |
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A levels are taken on England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Scotland has it's own education system which does not make use of the A level. It is therefore not a UK certificate. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/78.146.78.107|78.146.78.107]] ([[User talk:78.146.78.107|talk]]) 23:26, 27 October 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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The result of the move request was: '''moved to [[A-level]].''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:ClydeFranklin|C<small>LYDE</small>]] <small>[[User talk:ClydeFranklin|<sup>TALK TO ME</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/ClydeFranklin|<sub>STUFF DONE</sub>]] (please [[Help:Talk_pages#Notifications|mention]] me on reply)</small> 00:33, 10 June 2023 (UTC) |
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== Higher standards? == |
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I'm new here but this doesn't seem very objective: "However, it is significantly harder to achieve a good grade in the Hong Kong A-levels(HKAL) than in the British GCE A-levels, as the bar is raised for the Asian students due to their higher standards." |
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Anyone know? |
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[[User:Valicore|Valicore]] ([[User talk:Valicore|talk]]) 04:52, 20 August 2008 (UTC) |
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[[:A-Level]] → {{no redirect|A level}} – Removing the hyphen per common usage and moving to sentence case. |
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== University Admissions == |
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What sorts of scores do various programs in various universities require? Presumably the best require a bunch of 'A's. Will any good universities take students with 'E's, etc.? As someone unfamiliar with the UK secondary education system, I think it would be important to include some sort of guidance on this. [[Special:Contributions/82.111.242.154|82.111.242.154]] ([[User talk:82.111.242.154|talk]]) 22:01, 17 May 2008 (UTC) R.E.D. |
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The spelling with no hyphen and a lowercase "L" is used by [https://www.dictionary.com/browse/a-level dictionary.com], [https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/a-level the Cambridge Dictionary], [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/A%20level Merriam Webster], [https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/a-level the Collins English Dictionary], [https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/a-level the Macmillan Dictionary], and [https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/A-level the Britannica Dictionary]. The spelling with the hyphen and a lowercase "L" is used only by the [https://public.oed.com/teaching-resources/a-level/ The Oxford English Dictionary]). <nowiki>:</nowiki>3 [[User:Freedom4U|F4U]] ([[User talk:Freedom4U|they]][[Special:Contributions/Freedom4U|/it]]) 19:12, 13 May 2023 (UTC)<small>— '''''Relisting.''''' <span style="font-family:Monospace;color:black">>>> [[User:Extorc|<span style="color:purple">Extorc</span>]].[[User_talk:Extorc|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</span> 18:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC)</small> <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:ClydeFranklin|C<small>LYDE</small>]] <small>[[User talk:ClydeFranklin|<sup>TALK TO ME</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/ClydeFranklin|<sub>STUFF DONE</sub>]] (please [[Help:Talk_pages#Notifications|mention]] me on reply)</small> 23:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC)</small> <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' <span style="background-color: orange; color: green">[[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]]</span> <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 23:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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Er, no. In the old days you could get into Cambridge or Oxford with two E's at A-Level, that is the minimal requirement, honest.[[Special:Contributions/86.134.237.57|86.134.237.57]] ([[User talk:86.134.237.57|talk]]) 23:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC) |
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* '''Oppose''' per [[MOS:RETAIN]] and [[WP:ENGVAR]]. --[[Special:Contributions/112.204.206.165|112.204.206.165]] ([[User talk:112.204.206.165|talk]]) 04:28, 15 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== Foreign Countries == |
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*:How is this a matter of [[WP:ENGVAR]]? The article title isn't in sentence case, which is already an issue, and there's no evidence to suggest that the proposed title is a matter of national English variants. <nowiki>:</nowiki>3 [[User:Freedom4U|F4U]] ([[User talk:Freedom4U|they]][[Special:Contributions/Freedom4U|/it]]) 21:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC) |
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Since the A level is common throughout the Commonwealth, shouldn't they receive something approaching as thorough a treatment as the type awarded in England, Wales and NI? What about noting that many students all over the world, especially in private education, actually take the ''British'' A-level? --[[User:VivaEmilyDavies|VivaEmilyDavies]] 23:56, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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*::See discussion below from {{u|Walt Yoder}}. [[Special:Contributions/112.204.206.165|112.204.206.165]] ([[User talk:112.204.206.165|talk]]) 03:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*::: I have no idea how ENGVAR comes into play. Americans rarely talk about A-levels at all, and I don't claim to know if other non-UK countries capitalize it differently. [[User:Walt Yoder|Walt Yoder]] ([[User talk:Walt Yoder|talk]]) 16:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
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* '''Comment''' I think it should match the article title for O-Levels, [[GCE Ordinary Level]]; so this should be called [[GCE Advanced Level]] -- [[Special:Contributions/64.229.90.172|64.229.90.172]] ([[User talk:64.229.90.172|talk]]) 06:32, 21 May 2023 (UTC) |
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* '''Oppose''' the proposed title scans as if it is referring to "a level" in a video game. From Google search results, there seems to be a wide spread of usage, with {{tq|A-level}} and {{tq|A Level}} the most common. [[User:Walt Yoder|Walt Yoder]] ([[User talk:Walt Yoder|talk]]) 03:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*:I actually do understand the potential for confusion with a "level". Maybe "A-level" is the best title here then, since that would put it in sentence case and minimize potential for confusion. <nowiki>:</nowiki>3 [[User:Freedom4U|F4U]] ([[User talk:Freedom4U|they]][[Special:Contributions/Freedom4U|/it]]) 22:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Move to [[A-level]]''' per above. The "level" part is not generally capitalised in sources: [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=a-level&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=true] — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 13:17, 26 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*:There's a lot of previous discussions in [[Talk:A-Level/Archive 1]] for moving this article title. [[Special:Contributions/112.204.197.139|112.204.197.139]] ([[User talk:112.204.197.139|talk]]) 09:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:<small>'''Relisting comment''': [[GCE Advanced Level]] or [[A-level]]? [[User:ClydeFranklin|C<small>LYDE</small>]] <small>[[User talk:ClydeFranklin|<sup>TALK TO ME</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/ClydeFranklin|<sub>STUFF DONE</sub>]] (please [[Help:Talk_pages#Notifications|mention]] me on reply)</small> 23:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small>'''Relisting comment''': Still unclear on consensus here. <span style="background-color: orange; color: green">[[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]]</span> <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 23:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Support [[A-level]]''' per common usage. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 12:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC) |
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* '''Comment''' The [https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/276286?redirectedFrom=A-Level&p=emailA8xaJrqOjGZFg&d=276286 OED] says it is ''A level''. [[User:Martin Tauchman|Martin Tauchman]] ([[User talk:Martin Tauchman|talk]]) 15:19, 7 June 2023 (UTC) |
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Yup... but often countries like Singapore, although doing the 'A' Levels offered by UCLES, have different syllabus. The Ministry of Education of Sinagpore has more control over the content, while Cambridge sets and marks the papers. Wonder if anyone can wrap that up nicely... |
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*:Perhaps, but an ngram assessing all the options suggests that A-level is by some distance yhe most common across all books.[https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=A+level+exams%2CA-level+exams%2C+A+Level+exams%2CA-Level+exams&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3] — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 17:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC) |
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[[User:Richardlu yy|Richardlu yy]] 15:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC) |
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*::Also in King's School. Canterbury: [https://www.kings-school.co.uk/academic/results/] they uses "A-Level". [[Special:Contributions/112.198.121.177|112.198.121.177]] ([[User talk:112.198.121.177|talk]]) 11:14, 9 June 2023 (UTC) |
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== TYPO or small mistake in the [[A-level#Nepal|Nepal]] sub-section == |
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== University Offers == |
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"While many universities do not consider an A-level in General Studies to be a stand-alone subject (and thus is not accepted as part of an offer), it may affect the offer which a student receives exclusive of it. For example, a student of maths, physics and computing might receive an offer "BBC" for a physics degree, whereas one also taking General Studies would receive "BCC". That said, if the student gets a C in General Studies, and B-C-D in their other three, regardless of the second C, they would have failed to reach the conditions of their offer, and thus lose that place." - is there ''any'' evidence for this? It is not part of the stated policies of any university that I am aware of. And it does need some rephrasing - it isn't that most universities don't accept that it's a valid A-level subject, just that it's not the type of qualification that they want to base offers on. Many would encourage students to take it anyway for knowledge-broadening purposes. I have heard anecdotes of GS being taken into account at the Clearing stage of university admissions. --[[User:VivaEmilyDavies|VivaEmilyDavies]] 23:49, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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The last sentence in the [[A-level#Nepal]] sub-section begins with<blockquote>In Nepali, students generally appear [...]</blockquote>which is not correct. |
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I feel that this section has become too unwieldly. As the subject is A level, not university admission, perhaps it should be spun off onto a more relevant or new article? There seems to be an assumption that A levels are only taken as a means to entry to a under graduate university course, which is clearly false. [[User:Markb|Markb]] 09:48, 15 August 2005 (UTC) |
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As shown by the quote<blockquote>"People who live in Nepal, we call them Nepali,"</blockquote>from https://www.sbs.com.au/language/nepali/en/article/youve-been-getting-our-name-wrong-says-nepals-foreign-minister/pp6bznae5 (Disclosure: that quote -- and that web page -- were both found via the S.R.P. ["search results page"] https://www.google.com/search?q=%2BNepali%2C+Nepal under "People also ask:" / "What do you call a person from Nepal?"), it is clear that either '''[a]''' the final letter of the word "Nepali" should be deleted, or else '''[b]''' the first word ("In") of that sentence, '''and''' the first comma of that sentence, should ''both'' be deleted. |
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Most UK universities nowadays are commercial businesses and would take on anyone able to pay. So the best thing to do if you drop a grade or two or three in the results is to phone the university's admission office and see whether they'll still take you. The chances are, short of subject like Medicine and Dentistry, they will. [[Special:Contributions/86.134.237.57|86.134.237.57]] ([[User talk:86.134.237.57|talk]]) 23:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC) |
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I do not care which solution is chosen, but clearly the current version is not correct. |
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I do not think the meaning of phrase "an offer of B-B-C" is clear. It isn't to me, at least. For those outside the Commonwealth (such as I), perhaps clarification that this is an offer (for exactly what!?) conditional on final grades of X-Y-Z on three A-levels. (I'm guessing) I shouldn't have to guess.[[Special:Contributions/69.40.242.176|69.40.242.176]] ([[User talk:69.40.242.176|talk]]) 01:59, 16 September 2009 (UTC) |
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Any comments? [[User:Mike Schwartz|Mike Schwartz]] ([[User talk:Mike Schwartz|talk]]) 04:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== AS and A2 == |
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:I fixed it. I chose solution '''[b]'''. |
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I have removed links to AS and A2 levels (pages which don't currently exist). The reason is to discourage people creating pages on these topics as I don't think they could lead to anything more than dictionary definitions. There isn't much that can be said about either that wouldn't appear on this A-levels page. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 16:40, 16 Aug 2003 (UTC) |
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:The DIFF can be seen at https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=A-level&diff=1225027248&oldid=1220988438 |
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:{{resolved|case closed}} |
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: In that case, you should make [[AS-level]] and [[A2-level]] redirects to [[A-level]]. Otherwise, people have no impediment to creating new pages on those topics. Pages that talk about AS-levels or A2-levels specifically should link to whichever one they are talking about (we don't know where the content on AS-levels and A2-levels will end up eventually), but the redirect will take them to this article. I'll make the redirects now. -- [[User:Oliver Pereira|Oliver P.]] 20:02, 16 Aug 2003 (UTC) |
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:Any comments? --[[User:Mike Schwartz|Mike Schwartz]] ([[User talk:Mike Schwartz|talk]]) 22:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== S level == |
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I've just added a "see also" link to [[Advanced Extension Award]], and it made me wonder what happened to "S levels" which if (I remember correctly) were properly called Advanced Level GCE Special Papers. I was aware of them existing in 1986 when I did my A levels, though nobody at my bog-standard comp did them. I had a quick google and it seems from[http://www.ucas.ac.uk/candq/ukquals/ukquals05.pdf UCAS's ''uk qualifications 05''] (PDF; 800k; see page 86 of the PDF, but numbered 85 at the bottom) that they did exist until the introduction of AEAs in 2002. --[[User:Rbrwr|rbrwr]][[User talk:Rbrwr|<sup>±</sup>]] 20:05, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC) |
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they still existed as least as late as 1999 when I did them but they we not widely taken |
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They still exist in Singapore, but only until November 2006 (I am taking Chem and Bio this week :( ). After that the 'A' Level system in Singapore will be revamped. I wonder how come there's no history on it and I just see the AEA popping up from nowhere? |
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[[User:Richardlu yy|Richardlu yy]] 15:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC) |
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I remember they were almost a requirement for Oxbridge candidates. There were 3 grades in the 'older' days, Distinction, Merit and Credit, or 1, 2 and 3. Credit was then dropped, so the 'S' paper grades were Distinction (1) and Merit (2).[[Special:Contributions/86.134.236.70|86.134.236.70]] ([[User talk:86.134.236.70|talk]]) 00:52, 28 February 2009 (UTC) |
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I couldn't find a Wikipedia entry for S Levels or S Papers. Surely there should be one? I remember considering taking one myself, and my brother took one in (I think) 1998. [[Special:Contributions/178.248.34.17|178.248.34.17]] ([[User talk:178.248.34.17|talk]]) 15:43, 28 April 2011 (UTC) |
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'''^ Searching for 'S level' in Wikipedia?''' go here --> [[Scholarship Level]] <-- [[User:Johannjs|Johannjs]] ([[User talk:Johannjs|talk]]) 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC) |
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==Subjects== |
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This pages has been moved to WIKIBOOKS, where you can add to it if you want see [[Wikibooks:A_level]], good luck. |
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:http://www.jcgq.org.uk/Publications_and_Common_Docs/Alpha_GCE.pdf is a full list of GCE subjects, for anyone that is interested.--[[User:Rbrwr|rbrwr]][[User talk:Rbrwr|<sup>±</sup>]] 22:58, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC) |
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== A general moan at a-levels == |
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"A third view is that, as schools come under increasing pressure to improve their examination results, pupils are being coached to pass specific examinations, at the expense of a general understanding of their subjects. " |
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Bloody right. As a student just finishing my alevels now it infuriates me how little some of my class mates actually understand the subject yet manage to get the top grades. On the other hand there as some other guys with a clear talent for a subject and much more practical ability, yet they always seem to miss top marks. Doesnt seem very fair to me. Life isnt about passing exams its about putting your best into practical tasks with teams to achieve the best possible solution. Arg |
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Absolutely right! [[Special:Contributions/92.21.85.57|92.21.85.57]] ([[User talk:92.21.85.57|talk]]) 15:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Harry Potter reference == |
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A reference to [[Harry Potter]]'s Wizarding World examinations doesn't really have anything to do with this topic, does it? -[[User:X42bn6|x42bn6]] 08:01, 27 July 2005 (UTC) |
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:Since nobody has protested, I'll go ahead and remove the reference to Harry Potter. -[[User:X42bn6|x42bn6]] 08:02, 27 July 2005 (UTC) |
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== US/UK education? == |
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The paragraph appended to the end of this page... |
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Breadth of knowledge has already been satisfied, following 10-years of education (6-16 years of age), the taking of, on average 7 GCSE's (6-8). By this time, people should know how to read and write, have extensively completed english language and literature and other subjects. A-levels are a specialization (hence the depth) in preparation for a further specialization at University. Unlike the US University system, that repeats 70+% of prior learning from high school, of which, a major that accounts for only 40-50% of the degree, the remainder 50-60% has absolutely nothing to do with the degree title and is just a repeat of high school, the UK degree is 4-years at 90-100% of in depth education in the specialization. This is more like the US masters. |
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...seems a bit inflammatory, isn't sourced (70%+?), and doesn't necessarily add anything to the page. A bit about (or a link to) the GCSE's and breadth might be okay, but the paragraph as a whole is inappropriate IMO. Anyone else have any thoughts on this? |
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--[[User:Zamfi|Zamfi]] 21:11, 18 August 2005 (UTC) |
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Is also self defeating, 7 GSCEs is a joke in itself. |
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== Anonymisation? == |
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I have heard that people who correct and grade the A-Levels don't know the names of the pupils so bias regarding ethnicity or gender can't influence the grading. As I'm not sure whether this is true or not, I did not change the entry, so please do so if you know this to be correct. |
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:Candidates write their names on the scripts which the examiners see, so this is not possible. However, systems for marking scanned scripts electronically are in development (/practice?) for some subjects. |
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Actually the above answer is incorrect. While candidates do write their names on the scripts, that part of the page is folded over and sealed shut - it is only opened if there is subsequent problem. Unless special circumstances force the opening of this part of the script, the student's candidate number is the only identification used. [[User:Marthiemoo|Marthiemoo]] ([[User talk:Marthiemoo|talk]]) 16:21, 27 June 2009 (UTC) |
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== University Applications == |
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Most of the information in this paragraph, whilst well written and accurate, doesn't seem to be relevant to the subject of the article. Any reason not to remove/brutally trim it? [[User:86.137.104.235|86.137.104.235]] 17:15, 17 March 2006 (UTC) |
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== And Another Thing... == |
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"or multiple Sciences and Mathematics courses, which can have overlapping content" |
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Can anyone find a reference for this? I cannot speak certainly for science A-levels, but certainly my experience of learning two mathematics A-levels is that the content does not overlap significantly (althought the second a-level does build on the first one) and that doing the second a-level takes at least the same amount of work as the first if not more.[[User:86.137.104.235|86.137.104.235]] 17:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC) |
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''I think that your comment about it building on the content is fair - it's not the same work repeated, but twice as much work at the same level if you do Maths and Further Maths for example. There is a choice of 17 modules, you would take 3 to do an AS level and another three to complete the A Level. In Further Maths you do another three or six.'' |
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There are some cases in which they do overlap, and not just science and mathematics. Also, I believe that the article is referring to an overlap in mathematics and science rather than Maths and Further Maths (which, really, wouldn't, by definition, overlap) - I know that physics and mechanics overlap (although as I am doing a statistics module and every core science except physics ... take with a pinch of salt) - and I'd imagine there're other overlaps in other subjects. English Literature would likely overlap with Drama (I only do English Lit, so I can't say for sure), Lit and Lang would probably overlap, biology and geography - maybe, I know that IT overlaps with Law (again, I don't do law, but as there's a section of the IT course dedicated specifically to laws on computers...) - in short, there are a lot of overlaps. Not that that's a particularly bad thing. [[User:LupusCanis|LupusCanis]]17:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC) |
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I am dubious about the relevance of the whole overlapping / fluent langusages bit, which might equally apply to any exams system and not just A-levels. However I have confined myself to making it into a separate sentence to the 5 A-levels issue, which simply sounded like sour grapes against people taking 5 or more A-levels. Even if it is true that subjects may overlap, or that people may take an A-level in a language they are already fluent in, it will be as true for someone taking 2 A-levels as for 5 (or even for one A-level in the case of languages). [[User:Samatarou|Samatarou]] 04:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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I will just comment here too that I deleted a whole para which did not discuss A-levels at all, but rather summarised (wrongly) a referenced BBC article on plans to extend compulsory education to age 18 and went on to refer to how a specific college was planning to deal with these plans. It appeared to be an ad hoc insertion which broke the natural flow between the paragraph 2 (re. UK) and the subsequent para (re. Overseas) which clearly belong together. [[User:Samatarou|Samatarou]] 04:27, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== 'A' Level Examinations Boards == |
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Article looks like an advertisement for CIE examinations, which is the smallest of the UK 'A' level examination boards. Added references to the other boards with links |
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== List of A-Levels == |
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Is this section really required? , as this is ever changing, and thus has the potential to be difficult to keep up to date. Also, where is the source for this? |
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*And also, you may want to mention that SPU (Sci. for Public Understanding), European Studies, and Citizenship are only availiable to AS-Level (at least at the AQA board [http://www.aqa.org.uk/qual/gceasonly.html]) |
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[[User:Djm1279|DannyM]] 19:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:Done that. [[User:Skinnyweed|Skinnyweed]] 23:16, 20 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== class schedules == |
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About how many hours per week would a student taking 4-3 AS or AS course have of classtime? Is there just one class for each subject or is each subject broken into several classes? ([[User:Alphaboi867|Alphaboi867]] 06:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC)) |
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::I have 4 and a half hours a week for each subject (I take four AS). 3 an hour long, with one lesson being half an hour more. That makes 18 hours a week, plus 2 more for IT/General Studies and also for Tutorial. This is near enough standard across the country I believe. -- [[User:Boothman|<font color="#0f6e0a">'''Boothman'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:Boothman|'''<font color="#5c9337">/tɔːk/</font>''']].</sub> 13:56, 29 May 2006 (UTC). |
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::Yes, it is, I do the same. 4.5hrs per lesson (in 2x1hr, 1x1hr15, 1x1h30 (reduced to 1hr15 except in cases of practical lab sessions). Plus 1hr15 worth of tutorials (1x45mins, 1x30mins). Just proof that it's standard, as for A2 it changes I think, think you get one double block per subject/per week. So in principal ive got 18hrs of lessons, with the possibility of an extra 15mins per block (College's name for periods), 1hr15 of tutor (though it rarely comes to that) and 14hrs15mins free blocks. Some of my circle of friends also do another 4hr30 per block, losing 4hrs45 of free blocks. Just from my prespective. [[User:Djm1279|DannyM]] 20:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC) |
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This really varies across schools - I did 5 hours per subject per week, split into one 3-hour lesson and one 2-hour. I don't think there's any standard or minimum amount. [[User:Marthiemoo|Marthiemoo]] ([[User talk:Marthiemoo|talk]]) 22:19, 28 June 2009 (UTC) |
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== Original research/unreferenced == |
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<s>It has no references whatsoever, seems like somebody just decided to write about their view on A-levels.</s>[[User:Skinnyweed|Skinnyweed]] 19:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Pages on individual A Levels == |
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Should there be pages on individual A Levels? Or is that not encyclopedish enough? |
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:Plenty of things here aren't encyclopedic. It wouldn't be a bad idea in my opinion. [[User:Skinnyweed|Skinnyweed]] 14:37, 11 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Recent edits. June 2006 == |
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I have made a Demographics section that has results and things like that, it's quite a mess of statistics. I've also changed the name of "questions of academic rigour" to "criticisms and reformation" as it covers it better, and added some stuff there.[[User:Skinnyweed|Skinnyweed]] 15:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:Concerning the subjects list, every single subject must have a source to an exam board otherwise it may be removed. I have started this process by adding the AQA Specifications document which sources the most common ones. [[User:Skinnyweed|Skinnyweed]] 22:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::This article needs a thorough copyedit, for instance, the first paragraph says ''qualification, usually taken by students'', only a few words later it repeats itself with ''qualification taken by students''. [[User:Skinnyweed|Skinnyweed]] 22:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:::I've looked at all the major exam boards but there's still a few unsourced which probably won't get done by me.[[User:Skinnyweed|Skinnyweed]] 22:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::::CIE was a major coup and added loads of bizarre ones like Tamil. [[User:Skinnyweed|Skinnyweed]] 23:07, 20 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Political Mistake!! == |
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What does the following mean?? |
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in some Commonwealth '''countries''', '''including''' ... '''Hong Kong''' |
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Everybody knows HK is a part of China and it's not a country. |
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--[[User:Billc.cn|Billc.cn]] 08:07, 24 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::But it does still have the influence of the Commonwealth in it's culture, as shown by the fact that HK has A-Levels. I agree it should be reworded and made more clear. -- [[User:Boothman|<font color="#0f6e0a">'''Boothman'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:Boothman|'''<font color="#5c9337">/tɔːk/</font>''']]</sub> 10:08, 24 June 2006 (UTC). |
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* I have just fixed it.--[[User:Zhangdeming|Zhangdeming]] ([[User talk:Zhangdeming|talk]]) 07:06, 9 August 2009 (UTC) |
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== NPOV - "easy subjects"== |
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I have removed references to named "easy" subjects as this is clearly NPOV. Although there are clearly some soft subjects out there it is NPOV to name them. |
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Who is to say whether media is more challenging than art or vice-versa?[[User:195.93.21.4|195.93.21.4]] 16:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC) |
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== Cleanup tag == |
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This article requires some refractoring, some graphs (for the grades like on the [[General Certificate of Secondary Education|GCSE]]article), and just general cleanup, because it's not very clear. Hence, added the tag. ([[User:Btipling|Bjorn Tipling]] 18:57, 21 August 2006 (UTC)) |
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==Gorseinnon College== |
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Could someone provide a citation for the alleged fact that Gorseinnon College is one of the highest ranked colleges in the UK. I live in the local area and have compared their results with other local sixth forms and colleges and they do not seem to excel above the rest. The part of the text that should remain is the statement that some sixth forms are expanding for compulsory A-levels in the near future. |
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== What does college mean in this context? == |
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To a German-American such as myself the following sentence is quite confusing: ''in the final two years of secondary education (commonly called the Sixth Form), or in College (not to be mistaken with the "college" term some countries such as the United States use for University)"'' - So what does college mean in this context? As I understand it this exam is taken by students in a secondary institution -are such institutions refered to as colleges in the UK? <b><font face="Arial" color="1F860E">[[User:BrendelSignature|Signature]]</font><font color="20038A"><sup>[[User:BrendelSignature|brendel]]</sup></font></b> 22:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC) |
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::It goes 11-16 years = secondary, 16-18 years = college, 18+ years = university. Sometimes the college part carries on at the same school as the secondary part, this is when college is commonly called sixth form. -- [[User:Boothman|<font color="#0f6e0a">'''Boothman'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:Boothman|'''<font color="#5c9337">/tɔːk/</font>''']]</sub> 22:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC). |
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Yes, most schools that have a sixth form continue to call it the sixth form. However, there are some sixth form-only colleges. and further education colleges that allow study of A levels and voactional courses. Higher education (meaning higher than A levels) in the UK takes place almost entirely at institutions called universities these days since all the polytechnics were rename about 15 years ago. |
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Most British degrees are still three years long though many are of four years nowadays - and many of those are called MEng or MPhys but are not actually masters degrees.[[User:CWB001|Cliff]] 17:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:Would you care to name an MEng that is not a masters? [[User:Skittle|Skittle]] ([[User talk:Skittle|talk]]) 22:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC) |
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They are masters - they are called an undergraduate masters degree. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/80.176.97.11|80.176.97.11]] ([[User talk:80.176.97.11|talk]]) 23:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== International Equivalence == |
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How do A-levels compare with school leaving exams in other countries? It used to be said that they were at the level of second or third year studies at an American undergraduate college, so do they correspond to an [[Associate]] degree and allow a student to skip a year or two? It used to be (and perhaps still is) possible for A-level holders to go straight into second year courses for four-year degrees at the Scottish universities, and cut out the first year entirely if they had the right combination of passes. On the other hand, the French baccalaureate sounds more rigorous. [[User:NRPanikker|NRPanikker]] 19:41, 26 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:: The 'Scottish question' remains true. Often if a student gets low grades they enter the first year (of a 4 year Bsc), if not they enter the second year. [[Special:Contributions/82.17.136.199|82.17.136.199]] ([[User talk:82.17.136.199|talk]]) 23:30, 4 April 2008 (UTC) |
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I think you should remember A Levels are much more in-depth than many overseas qualifications. The content of second year A Levels is equivalent to the first year of university in many countries. I don't think the French system is more rigorous, in particular the French seem to spend a very long time at school to complete their qualifications. <small>—Preceding[[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/80.176.97.11|80.176.97.11]] ([[User talk:80.176.97.11|talk]]) 23:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::A-Levels are not that hard, but the UK curriculum is such that students only take 3 or perhaps 4 subjects, whereas in many non-UK university courses the first and second year could offer a much wider combination of subjects and courses. When I did A-Levels, my fee-paying school refused to allow me to take more than 3 subjects, even when the time-table permitted, as it was their view that the school fee only covered 3 subjects. So I just bought a text-book and studied on my own for my 4th subject in just one year, took the exam, and passed with a good grade, thus proving that A-Levels are not that difficult. I am told that in Singapore, students did 5 A-level subjects as a rule. [[Special:Contributions/86.136.61.102|86.136.61.102]] ([[User talk:86.136.61.102|talk]]) 02:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC) |
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Read these recent articles in the Guardian: |
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* [http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/16/baccalaureate-a-levels-royal-society '''Why the (French) baccalaureate beats (British) A-levels'''] (16 Feb 2011) |
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* [http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2011/jan/12/1-in-6-get-english-baccalaureate '''Schools under fire as 1 in 6 pupils achieve 'English bac''''] (12 Jan 2011) |
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Certificate_of_Secondary_Education#English_Baccalaureate '''English Baccalaureate'''] --> [http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=English+Baccalaureate Search further on] [[User:Johannjs|Johannjs]] ([[User talk:Johannjs|talk]]) 21:25, 16 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Results day == |
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Should there be some mention of the typical date on which students get their results?, at the moment i cant see it in the article.[[Special:Contributions/92.21.85.57|92.21.85.57]] ([[User talk:92.21.85.57|talk]]) 15:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Commonwealth == |
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Gibraltar is not a Commonwealth Country. It's a [[British Overseas Territory]] I have corrected the sentence to reflect the facts. |
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== AP exams == |
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I don't have enough knowledge to say this with certainty, but I'm not sure how good the correlation is between A-level, as described here, and AP exams: |
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AP exams are ''voluntary'' tests, that, so far as I know, are not required for admission by any college in the U.S. They are taken during high school, not separately, and are designed to give well-qualified students—as its name suggests—placement out of introductory classes. [For example, I took AP Chemistry in high school, and was thus able to skip the normal introductory chemistry course, and go straight to organic chemistry.] [[User:Stismail|Samer]] ([[User talk:Stismail|talk]]) 03:25, 28 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:The statement in the article is a comparison to the end result of taking APs or A-Levels. Considering APs as "voluntary" doesn't help understand the nature of APs or A-Levels. A-Levels are not compulsory in the UK either and they are also taken during high school. Seems a fair statement to me. --[[User:Candorwien|Candy]] ([[User talk:Candorwien|talk]]) 07:04, 29 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::I should have been clearer about my issue here: the article goes on to say: |
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::<blockquote>While an A-level is a qualification in its own right, A-levels are often the prerequisite for university-level study as well,[7] '''making them a de facto university entrance examination''', though some universities also require applicants to take separate entrance examinations and the International Baccalaureate and European Baccalaureate are also accepted.</blockquote> |
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::''That'' is the part that makes me question how close they are; no school in the U.S. requires AP exams (or the IB or EB) for admission. [[User:Stismail|Samer]] ([[User talk:Stismail|talk]]) 15:51, 30 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Then the answer is simple. In the vast, vast majority of cases, to get into a British University for a 3 year honours degree course you need A levels, APs or IB Diploma or equivalent. Does that help? --[[User:Candorwien|Candy]] ([[User talk:Candorwien|talk]]) 17:18, 30 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Critical fact == |
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What percentage of British young people do A-level? 30 %? Everybody? The article should make that clear. [[User:Jacob Lundberg|Jacob Lundberg]] ([[User talk:Jacob Lundberg|talk]]) 21:21, 18 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:It started at around 10%, rising to 15% in 1966, 33% in 1990, 40% in 2001, now nearly half of 16- to 18-year-olds take at least one A-level. I can't find the current figure, but was surprised to see that only 17% take a Science A-level. [http://royalsociety.org/news/Calls-for-A-level-reform-/] [[User:Dbfirs|''<font face="verdana"><font color="blue">D</font><font color="#00ccff">b</font><font color="#44ffcc">f</font><font color="66ff66">i</font><font color="44ee44">r</font><font color="44aa44">s</font></font>'']] 06:58, 15 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== A level, not A-level or A Level == |
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It's very clear from all the government and QCA material that the correct way of spelling/punctuating is A level, not A-level or A-Level or A Level. If nobody objects, I'll be standardising all mentions to A level. [[User:Marthiemoo|Marthiemoo]] ([[User talk:Marthiemoo|talk]]) 16:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:Although the government site misses out the hyphen, almost everyone else includes it in general discussion to avoid ambiguity. I object. [[User:Dbfirs|''<font face="verdana"><font color="blue">D</font><font color="#00ccff">b</font><font color="#44ffcc">f</font><font color="66ff66">i</font><font color="44ee44">r</font><font color="44aa44">s</font></font>'']] 12:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::'''Support'''. We should go with the officially written form, A level. How everyone else writes it is their business. [[User:Danielkueh|mezzaninelounge]] ([[User talk:Danielkueh|talk]]) 18:56, 12 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::The examination boards, who are responsible for setting and marking the papers often use "A-level" (e.g. [http://store.aqa.org.uk/admin/library/AQA-EXAMRECORDS.PDF]). Who is "official"? [[User:Dbfirs|''<font face="verdana"><font color="blue">D</font><font color="#00ccff">b</font><font color="#44ffcc">f</font><font color="66ff66">i</font><font color="44ee44">r</font><font color="44aa44">s</font></font>'']] 07:04, 13 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::::What does AQA do exactly? Do they just administer the exams or do they grade them as well? My understanding is that institutions such as Cambridge University are the ones that provide, administer, and grade A levels examinations [http://www.cie.org.uk/qualifications/academic/uppersec/alevel]. Granted, my understanding of these exams is limited to the international A level examinations, which may not be applicable to the rest of the UK. [[User:Danielkueh|mezzaninelounge]] ([[User talk:Danielkueh|talk]]) 16:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::Yes, AQA is one of the examination boards for examinations in England. They set, administer and grade about a quarter of papers in England, just as Cambridge International set international papers. They seem to use a capital L for Level, as do OCR, another board for A-levels in England that Cambridge University is part of. There does seem to be a lot of variation between the official bodies. Most newspapers include the hyphen to improve legibility. I notice that there is still a wide variation within Wikipedia articles. My objection was partly "tongue-in-cheek" because the proposal was made two years ago and very little seems to have been done to implement it. We ought to standardise, and I decided to hyphenate for legibility in documents that I wrote many years ago, but I'm not going to fight over my preference if others think that one of the many alternatives is better. [[User:Dbfirs|''<font face="verdana"><font color="blue">D</font><font color="#00ccff">b</font><font color="#44ffcc">f</font><font color="66ff66">i</font><font color="44ee44">r</font><font color="44aa44">s</font></font>'']] 17:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::LoL. I didn't realize that post by Marthiemoo was two years old. I have no strong preference. I just tend to lean to the "official standard," which as we both discovered is quite variable. [[User:Danielkueh|mezzaninelounge]] ([[User talk:Danielkueh|talk]]) 20:59, 14 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== Page name == |
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Shouldn't this page be at "A level (UK)" because of [[WP:COMMONNAME]] and normal disambiguation (if it needs that)? I think we can all agree in normal business it is not called a "GCE Advanced Level in the United Kingdom". Honestly, I can't see why the page goes with a title no-one uses - and I'm not seeing any ambiguity (given the UK part) or anything else titled an "A level" or similar; it may exist. I'll pull it off if there is no opposition. - [[User:Jarry1250|Jarry1250]] <sup>[ <span style="font-style:italic">[[Special:Contributions/Jarry1250|humourous]] – [[User talk:Jarry1250|discuss]]</span> ]</sup> 18:46, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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: Actually, this page covers fairly well every country that takes "A levels", I reckon this page should be merged into [[GCE Advanced Level]]. Then that could be moved. But the disambig is completely unneccessary given the coverage of this article. -[[User:Jarry1250|Jarry1250]] <sup>[ <span style="font-style:italic">[[Special:Contributions/Jarry1250|humourous]] – [[User talk:Jarry1250|discuss]]</span> ]</sup> 09:07, 12 July 2009 (UTC) |
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== Merger proposal == |
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I've removed the [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=GCE_Advanced_Level_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=301667696&oldid=300994912proposal to merge] this article with [[GCE Advanced Level]] as there are different versions of the qualification in different countries (such as Sri Lanka and Hong Kong). IMHO [[GCE Advanced Level]] should act as a disambiguation page to these other articles. [[User:TheRetroGuy|TheRetroGuy]] ([[User talk:TheRetroGuy|talk]]) 11:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:I've reinstated it again. Most A Levels are based on the UK system, and the majority of the other articles are small anyway and could easily be merged and redirected. [[User:TheRetroGuy|TheRetroGuy]] ([[User talk:TheRetroGuy|talk]]) 11:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::I suppose that rather than merge this with [[GCE Advanced Level]], as it is much shorter that article could be incorporated into this one, then this page moved to there. [[User:TheRetroGuy|TheRetroGuy]] ([[User talk:TheRetroGuy|talk]]) 11:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:Well the main article, [[GCE Advanced Level]], is primarily about the UK A level and the other country's A level pages linked seem to be based on it, so a merger is not unreasonable. However, I do think each country's A level is probably notable enough for its own page in the longterm so those other country A level pages should probably be kept, with perhaps a summary and link from [[GCE Advanced Level]]. [[User:Camaron|Camaron<span style="font-weight:bold;"> ·</span> Christopher]]<small><span style="font-weight:bold;"> ·</span> [[User talk:Camaron|talk]]</small> 08:31, 30 July 2009 (UTC) |
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==Duplication== |
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For some reason the entire article had become duplicated - a version with no page breaks coming before the subtitled version. I have deleted the first occurrence and attempted to neaten up the layout slightly, but have not yet checked thoroughly for any changes between the two versions of each paragraph. Sorry if any edits have been lost - feel free to revert if anything important is missing. |
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[[User:ALexL33|ALexL33]] ([[User talk:ALexL33|talk]]) 10:33, 27 June 2010 (UTC) |
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The references in the second paragraph in the "In The UK" section are not done correctly but I do not have time to work out how to fix them at the moment - I believe they were like that before my edit however. No offense intended to whoever wrote that paragraph originally, its just a formality. |
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[[User:ALexL33|ALexL33]] ([[User talk:ALexL33|talk]]) 10:39, 27 June 2010 (UTC) |
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==Confused== |
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Hi, on this page i didn't see any external links for people who are confused about what to choose to study with a need for careers advice. Do you know any websites you could possible add? I'm a bit stuck with what to study for a-levels myself so any websites directing to careers advisors would be good. [[User:Someone65|Someone65]] ([[User talk:Someone65|talk]]) 19:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC) |
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Under the heading "Growing Controversy", second paragraph, last sentence there is a reference to UMS. What does this stand for? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.142.62.133|24.142.62.133]] ([[User talk:24.142.62.133|talk]]) 02:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== In The UK == |
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The citation numbers are all messed up in the second paragraph and the citations don't seem to be relevant to the facts they're attached to. |
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This second paragraph is also a bit of a messy list of figures, could do with a bit of tidying up. [[User:Reketrebn|Reketrebn]] ([[User talk:Reketrebn|talk]]) 21:29, 14 July 2010 (UTC) |
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==Pre-University?== |
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As I understand it, A-levels are pre-university qualifications and are therefore not equivalent to say, an American High School, but rather to the first year of an American University Education. That said, the reason why I am bringing this up is because there is a Wikipedia article on [[Pre-University Course|pre-university]] education but the article only deals pre-university education in India. I would like to expand the scope of that article, or at least create a new one that includes A-levels, Cambridge Pre-U, etc. But before I do that, is there a general consensus that pre-university is a generic term that can refers to A-level type qualifications? Any thoughts? [[User:Danielkueh|mezzaninelounge]] ([[User talk:Danielkueh|talk]]) 19:45, 16 August 2010 (UTC) |
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== More history required re: Coursework == |
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When did A Levels introduce coursework as part of the exam? |
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Up until the 80s, at least, coursework didn't count towards the final mark in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/87.112.226.132|87.112.226.132]] ([[User talk:87.112.226.132|talk]]) 18:48, 18 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Faulty links== |
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Reference 36 should have split in its "title", rather than in the link itself. I don't know how to fix this myself so I thought I'd bring it to your attention here. |
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[[Special:Contributions/86.132.18.208|86.132.18.208]] ([[User talk:86.132.18.208|talk]]) 16:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:(Now reference number 37) [[Special:Contributions/81.156.37.115|81.156.37.115]] ([[User talk:81.156.37.115|talk]]) 22:27, 18 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::And now number 38. [[Special:Contributions/86.183.34.118|86.183.34.118]] ([[User talk:86.183.34.118|talk]]) 18:52, 6 September 2011 (UTC) |
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On 12 June 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from GCE Advanced Level to A-Level. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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Change page name from A-Level to A Level.
[edit]Based on the more authoritative sources in this article (government websites, exam boards, etc.), the term 'A Level' should not be hyphenated. I have tried to move the page myself but have been unsuccessful, can anyone help me with this? PentagonPizza (talk) 16:49, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 13 May 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved to A-level. (closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 00:33, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
A-Level → A level – Removing the hyphen per common usage and moving to sentence case.
The spelling with no hyphen and a lowercase "L" is used by dictionary.com, the Cambridge Dictionary, Merriam Webster, the Collins English Dictionary, the Macmillan Dictionary, and the Britannica Dictionary. The spelling with the hyphen and a lowercase "L" is used only by the The Oxford English Dictionary). :3 F4U (they/it) 19:12, 13 May 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 18:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 23:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. EggRoll97 (talk) 23:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per MOS:RETAIN and WP:ENGVAR. --112.204.206.165 (talk) 04:28, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- How is this a matter of WP:ENGVAR? The article title isn't in sentence case, which is already an issue, and there's no evidence to suggest that the proposed title is a matter of national English variants. :3 F4U (they/it) 21:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- See discussion below from Walt Yoder. 112.204.206.165 (talk) 03:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have no idea how ENGVAR comes into play. Americans rarely talk about A-levels at all, and I don't claim to know if other non-UK countries capitalize it differently. Walt Yoder (talk) 16:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- See discussion below from Walt Yoder. 112.204.206.165 (talk) 03:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- How is this a matter of WP:ENGVAR? The article title isn't in sentence case, which is already an issue, and there's no evidence to suggest that the proposed title is a matter of national English variants. :3 F4U (they/it) 21:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I think it should match the article title for O-Levels, GCE Ordinary Level; so this should be called GCE Advanced Level -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 06:32, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose the proposed title scans as if it is referring to "a level" in a video game. From Google search results, there seems to be a wide spread of usage, with
A-level
andA Level
the most common. Walt Yoder (talk) 03:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC)- I actually do understand the potential for confusion with a "level". Maybe "A-level" is the best title here then, since that would put it in sentence case and minimize potential for confusion. :3 F4U (they/it) 22:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Move to A-level per above. The "level" part is not generally capitalised in sources: [1] — Amakuru (talk) 13:17, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- There's a lot of previous discussions in Talk:A-Level/Archive 1 for moving this article title. 112.204.197.139 (talk) 09:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: GCE Advanced Level or A-level? CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 23:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: Still unclear on consensus here. EggRoll97 (talk) 23:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support A-level per common usage. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment The OED says it is A level. Martin Tauchman (talk) 15:19, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but an ngram assessing all the options suggests that A-level is by some distance yhe most common across all books.[2] — Amakuru (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Also in King's School. Canterbury: [3] they uses "A-Level". 112.198.121.177 (talk) 11:14, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but an ngram assessing all the options suggests that A-level is by some distance yhe most common across all books.[2] — Amakuru (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
The last sentence in the A-level#Nepal sub-section begins with
In Nepali, students generally appear [...]
which is not correct. As shown by the quote
"People who live in Nepal, we call them Nepali,"
from https://www.sbs.com.au/language/nepali/en/article/youve-been-getting-our-name-wrong-says-nepals-foreign-minister/pp6bznae5 (Disclosure: that quote -- and that web page -- were both found via the S.R.P. ["search results page"] https://www.google.com/search?q=%2BNepali%2C+Nepal under "People also ask:" / "What do you call a person from Nepal?"), it is clear that either [a] the final letter of the word "Nepali" should be deleted, or else [b] the first word ("In") of that sentence, and the first comma of that sentence, should both be deleted.
I do not care which solution is chosen, but clearly the current version is not correct.
Any comments? Mike Schwartz (talk) 04:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- I fixed it. I chose solution [b].
- The DIFF can be seen at https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=A-level&diff=1225027248&oldid=1220988438
- Resolved– case closed
- Any comments? --Mike Schwartz (talk) 22:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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