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Assertiveness

As a communication style and strategy, Assertiveness is distinguished from Aggression and Passivity. How people deal with personal boundaries; their own and those of other people, helps to distinguish between these three concepts. Passive communicators do not defend their own personal boundaries and thus allow aggressive people to harm or otherwise unduly influence them. They are also typically not likely to risk trying to influence anyone else. Aggressive people do not respect the personal boundaries of others and thus are liable to harm others while trying to influence them. A person communicates assertively by not being afraid to speak his or her mind or trying to influence others, but doing so in a way that respects the personal boundaries of others. They are also willing to defend themselves against aggressive incursions.

Apologies

Recently something was put on the main Self esteem page saying that wikipedia destroys self esteem (or something close to that). As it turns out, someone in my school saw me type my password and recently confessed to doing this. He also took part in something on a wikipedia page called Frankenbush. I changed my password and this will not happen again.

Confused about why my edit was reverted

This article is clearly a mess but I got here by searching for terms used in another article (I guess it is a hang out for arrogant people). The heading of that article (Ideal mental health) said it needed more links from other articles, I placed a sentence in this article which linked to that article (and linked the term I used to this article) why is that reverted? For some reason I cannot log in.

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self esteem is basically something that is like a hurdle to success. its literal meaning is ego, self confidence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.177.22.177 (talk • contribs) who replaced the page with this comment, 13:54 14 August 2007 (UTC).edit

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 self esteem is basically something that is like a hurdle to success. its literal meaning is ego, self confidence. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:59.177.22.177|59.177.22.177]] ([[User talk:59.177.22.177|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/59.177.22.177|contribs]]){{#if:who replaced the page with this comment, 13:54 14 August 2007 (UTC)|&#32;who replaced the page with this comment, 13:54 14 August 2007 (UTC)}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><small>[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=151170442 edit]</small>
-== Article summary ==
-Self-esteem is the respect you have for your abilities, characteristics and your physical look. [[User:Jokerkick|Jokerkick]] ([[User talk:Jokerkick|talk]]) 12:56, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
-:Yes, the opinion, or esteem, you have for what is also known as the 'self'. Hence the term. Self-esteem. What is your point? [[Special:Contributions/122.151.210.84|122.151.210.84]] ([[User talk:122.151.210.84|talk]]) 07:02, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
-== Examples of fallacious reasoning and plain idiocy could and should be deleted ==
-In a number of places in this article the fallacy that improved self-esteem leads to improved life outcomes is stated or implied. The wacky US politician and his various councils, the malaysian undergraduate study, etc. Why mention it? Why not delete this self-evident idiocy? Why is not blindingly obvious to to any reasonably intelligent being that improved life outcomes lead to improved self-esteem, and NOT the reverse? Just as water, light and nutrients lead to plant growth. Plant growth does not lead to water, light and nutrients. Very basic logic, really.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/122.151.210.84|122.151.210.84]] ([[User talk:122.151.210.84#top|talk]]) 06:59, 18 June 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-== The difference between Self-esteem and self worth. ==
-They are mentioned in this page as synonyms. There are subtle differences in the nuances of the two. Many psychologists and authors express the view that self-worth is intrinsic (and not dependant on external circumstances) whilst Self-esteem is (for many) contingent. I would like to add a split section on self worth to expand this idea. Really I also believe that so much has been written on self-worth in its own right that it should have its own page and we could lose the redirect. What are your thoughts on the matter? [[User:Adam Bradley Giles|Adam Bradley Giles]] ([[User talk:Adam Bradley Giles|talk]]) 18:29, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
-: I tend to be "pro-lumping" and "anti-splitting" because I think comparing distinct literatures and ideas is useful for the reader who would otherwise be deprived a more expansive view of the topic. If there are splits before a high level argument to discuss both related concepts. I also find that splitting can lead to particular literatues (e.g. psychology vs social psycholgy vs psychiatry vs  social work vs sociology) excluding others. I don't think most people agree with me.
-: I think the topics are close enough that'd be good to discuss them together [[User:Talpedia|Talpedia]] ([[User talk:Talpedia|talk]]) 22:38, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
-::Ok thanks for your input, Talpedia. I´ll draft a section on this page. Open it up for discussion, then we'll see where we go from there. [[User:Adam Bradley Giles|Adam Bradley Giles]] ([[User talk:Adam Bradley Giles|talk]]) 07:49, 28 November 2022 (UTC)