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== "Cherrywine" ==

cheerwine was created by a klutz

== "Cherrywine" ==cheerwine was created by a klutz
<i>People often refer to the drink as "cherrywine," and many people think it is an actual alcoholic beverage.</i>
<i>People often refer to the drink as "cherrywine," and many people think it is an actual alcoholic beverage.</i>
<br>Is this true? I've lived in the Southeast all my life, and I've never heard it called "Cherrywine", nor have I ever met someone who thought it was alcoholic.
<br>Is this true? I've lived in the Southeast all my life, and I've never heard it called "Cherrywine", nor have I ever met someone who thought it was alcoholic.


:I've heard this, but I believe that it was called that due to the horrible dialect of the area that I'm originally from. [[User:Suamme1|Suamme1]] 19:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
:I've heard this, but I believe that it was called that due to the horrible dialect of the area that I'm originally from. [[User:Suamme1|Suamme1]] 19:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

::What horrible dialect? (I suspect you mean accent.) People speak normally down here -- it's everyone else that has a horrible accent (or dialect). LOL [[Special:Contributions/138.162.128.53|138.162.128.53]] ([[User talk:138.162.128.53|talk]]) 11:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


:I've never heard anyone refer to it as "cherrywine," but their current ad campaign (at least on radio) revolves around a convenience store clerk that refuses to sell the product to minors (and is shocked to learn that there is no beer in root beer). It would definitely fall in line with why it's called Cheerwine in the first place (according to the article anyway). - TM
:I've never heard anyone refer to it as "cherrywine," but their current ad campaign (at least on radio) revolves around a convenience store clerk that refuses to sell the product to minors (and is shocked to learn that there is no beer in root beer). It would definitely fall in line with why it's called Cheerwine in the first place (according to the article anyway). - TM

I have lived in Florida or Georgia my whole life, and had never heard of this stuff till yesterday, when I saw it at an Ace hardware store of all places.

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:Is it available in Southern California? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.67.35.112|72.67.35.112]] ([[User talk:72.67.35.112|talk]]) 08:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Is it available in Southern California? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.67.35.112|72.67.35.112]] ([[User talk:72.67.35.112|talk]]) 08:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: Odd, it seems to only be available in North and South Carolina. Maybe it's imported? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:PotatoTheThird|PotatoTheThird]] ([[User talk:PotatoTheThird|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PotatoTheThird|contribs]]) 00:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Popularity outside the South ==
== Popularity outside the South ==
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A Pop Culture section might make sense for this article. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/168.215.132.137|168.215.132.137]] ([[User talk:168.215.132.137|talk]]) 15:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
A Pop Culture section might make sense for this article. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/168.215.132.137|168.215.132.137]] ([[User talk:168.215.132.137|talk]]) 15:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::No, it wouldn't. [[User:Mjpresson|Mjpresson]] ([[User talk:Mjpresson|talk]]) 03:23, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
:::That's one hell of a well-reasoned argument. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.141.225.157|81.141.225.157]] ([[User talk:81.141.225.157|talk]]) 03:00, 26 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== This is an encyclopedia ==

I removed a lot of inappropriate promotional nonsense from this article. Wikipedia is not a vehicle to advertise your product. And 2 non free images? C'mon...[[User:Mjpresson|Mjpresson]] ([[User talk:Mjpresson|talk]]) 03:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

:Where is it stated that an article cannot have two non-free images that each show something different and are both relevant? '''[[User:Th1rt3en|<sup><span style="color:black;">TH<span style="color:red;">1</span>RT<span style="color:red;">3</span>EN</span></sup>]]''' <sub>[[User talk:Th1rt3en|talk]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Th1rt3en|contribs]]</sub> 04:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
::The second pic is irrelevant. Why do insist on the article being an advert?? [[User:Mjpresson|Mjpresson]] ([[User talk:Mjpresson|talk]]) 04:17, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

:::I don't. The second image shows products related to the softdrink. It doesn't list prices or anything like you would expect in an advertisement, it talks about the product. Why is the related product section promotional? '''[[User:Th1rt3en|<sup><span style="color:black;">TH<span style="color:red;">1</span>RT<span style="color:red;">3</span>EN</span></sup>]]''' <sub>[[User talk:Th1rt3en|talk]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Th1rt3en|contribs]]</sub> 04:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

::::I think it would be clear to most that the entire article is promotional. [[User:Mjpresson|Mjpresson]] ([[User talk:Mjpresson|talk]]) 04:31, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Really, Thirteen, a section telling you which stores you can buy it at??? Great contribution. [[User:Mjpresson|Mjpresson]] ([[User talk:Mjpresson|talk]]) 04:34, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

:::::The section had extra information that could have been removed itself without having to remove the entire section. The products are related to the softdrink are they not? You also removed both images at one point, obviously one non-free image to show the product is better than none and is allowed. '''[[User:Th1rt3en|<sup><span style="color:black;">TH<span style="color:red;">1</span>RT<span style="color:red;">3</span>EN</span></sup>]]''' <sub>[[User talk:Th1rt3en|talk]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Th1rt3en|contribs]]</sub> 04:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

:::::Also on that note, one could easily crop [[:File:Cheerwine-icecream.jpg]] to only show the actual bar on the right, which would then be a valid image. '''[[User:Th1rt3en|<sup><span style="color:black;">TH<span style="color:red;">1</span>RT<span style="color:red;">3</span>EN</span></sup>]]''' <sub>[[User talk:Th1rt3en|talk]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Th1rt3en|contribs]]</sub> 05:06, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

== Edits are clearly explained ==

User Th1rt3en is restoring promotional material to this article such as non free images and promotional statements. This article was an advertisement and I fixed it. User Th1rt3en is attempting to restore it to an advertisement. [[User:Mjpresson|Mjpresson]] ([[User talk:Mjpresson|talk]]) 03:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

:I've cleaned up the current sections and have provided some refs. I'll look for more over the weekend as I cleanup the article. It's much better to tag and clean up an article rather than blank most of it and leave it a stub. [[WP:AGF|Please do not accuse me of restoring only to make it an advertisement.]] '''[[User:Th1rt3en|<sup><span style="color:black;">TH<span style="color:red;">1</span>RT<span style="color:red;">3</span>EN</span></sup>]]''' <sub>[[User talk:Th1rt3en|talk]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Th1rt3en|contribs]]</sub> 05:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

::I agree that you have improved the article with a better approach than mine. I'm a [[WP:BOLD|bold]] deletionist when it comes to promotional and unsourced edits. My only problem would be the placement of a second non free image that hypes the product. People looking up Cheerwine in an encyclopedia aren't looking for a picture of a tasty popcicle that makes you want to buy the product. [[User:Mjpresson|Mjpresson]] ([[User talk:Mjpresson|talk]])

:::Ah, but what about the picture of an ice cream bar makes it "tasty"? But again, the second non-free image was showing the existence of the products, which is why it combined the sherbet and the cream bar boxes and the actual cream bar. Just because the photo shows the product, doesn't mean that it's trying to be promotional. For instance, the [[Coca-Cola]] article shows several variations of copyrighted and trademarked packaging, many of which are in cans which don't allow you to actually see the cola. '''[[User:Th1rt3en|<sup><span style="color:black;">TH<span style="color:red;">1</span>RT<span style="color:red;">3</span>EN</span></sup>]]''' <sub>[[User talk:Th1rt3en|talk]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Th1rt3en|contribs]]</sub> 16:40, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

::::The image issue isn't as important to me as the cleanup you and I accomplished. Onward I say! [[User:Mjpresson|Mjpresson]] ([[User talk:Mjpresson|talk]]) 20:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

== NYTimes coverage ==

Some coverage in a NYTimes article: [http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/18/dining/18souvenir.html?_r=1 For Some Foods, You Just Had to Be There] By SARAH MASLIN NIR
Published: August 17, 2010 [[User:Jodi.a.schneider|Jodi.a.schneider]] ([[User talk:Jodi.a.schneider|talk]]) 14:34, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

==Cheerwine's Captain Morgan endorsement==
Hello Cwobeel. I recently edited the Cheerwine wiki page so that the sentence that said:
> Cheerwine pairs well with Captain Morgan, otherwise known as the "Whining Pirate."
Instead said something like
> Cheerwine is often mixed with Captain Morgan to make a drink known as the "Whining Pirate."
The former is subjective, and smacks of endorsement. It smells like something put in the page by a marketer; a quick websearch for the 'whining pirate' (sans quotes) brings up nothing about cocktails on the first page.
My edit was conservative, removed no information except the subjective judgement of an unknown personality, and left the dubious endorsement in place only slightly nerfed.
I don't know what you thought you improved by reverting my effort, but I encourage you to think again. I don't have wikipedia editing as a hobby, and don't care to get involved if I'm going to be dealing with reverts on something as un-revert-worthy as this.
Instead, I encourage you to do two things.
1) Edit that sentence yourself to remove the endorsement. Perhaps you could write something like "The Cheerwine company has said that the only acceptable alcoholic mixer for...Captain Morgan" (This may be true) or some other phrase that does not equal saying "Wikipedia says that these things taste good when mixed together" (unambiguously subjective and unambiguously an endorsement; well done.)
2) Consider having a little more input and a little more care as to what you revert. If you're reverting things just because they seem to not improve things, perhaps it's because you're not paying attention, didn't take the time to read carefully, or are biased? Or perhaps you, in that particular instance, are none of those things and had a good reason that you didn't explain. As a result, I'm annoyed and, rather than waste more time, I'm leaving you with your ball, giving you a lecture on how you're not making Wikipedia any friends OR improvements here, and going back to my own pastimes. I wash my hands.
I don't need or want a response. I just encourage you to consider the above. (Pasting this to the talk page of Cheerwine as well as your own talk page, because while I believe your actions were casually dismissive and inattentive rather than malicious or biased, I may be wrong and would give the community an opportunity to notice if your flaws are otherwise.)
[[Special:Contributions/72.130.91.250|72.130.91.250]] ([[User talk:72.130.91.250|talk]]) 17:29, 20 June 2014 (UTC)FFFFFF
:Blah blah blah, but you're right about the change so I restored your language. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|::==( o )]]</small></sup> 20:24, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

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==Needs photo of this beverage==
Needed in this article: a photo showing what this beverage actually looks like (!) [[Special:Contributions/173.88.246.138|173.88.246.138]] ([[User talk:173.88.246.138|talk]]) 22:20, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

== Opening text doesn't quite make sense ==

"Cheerwine is a [[cherry]]-flavored [[soft drink]] by [[Carolina Beverage Corporation]] of [[Salisbury, North Carolina]]. It has been produced since 1917, claiming to be "the oldest continuing soft drink company still operated by the same family"." So a drink is making a claim? And a drink is a company that is operated? What are we really trying to say? [[User:Equinox|Equinox]] [[User_talk:Equinox|◑]] 00:12, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

== ingredients incorrect ==

cheerwine bottle says it's made with real cane sugar, there is no corn syrup [[Special:Contributions/2603:6010:5E26:6100:10AC:3107:2A6:F259|2603:6010:5E26:6100:10AC:3107:2A6:F259]] ([[User talk:2603:6010:5E26:6100:10AC:3107:2A6:F259|talk]]) 02:19, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

== Availability in WA ==

“Other spots to find Cheerwine are the many "specialty soda" stores throughout the country, as well as WinCo Foods in Washington state”

Not since COVID. [[Special:Contributions/2601:1C2:5000:E7:F47A:328C:CCA0:7078|2601:1C2:5000:E7:F47A:328C:CCA0:7078]] ([[User talk:2601:1C2:5000:E7:F47A:328C:CCA0:7078|talk]]) 06:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

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"Cherrywine"

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cheerwine was created by a klutz People often refer to the drink as "cherrywine," and many people think it is an actual alcoholic beverage.
Is this true? I've lived in the Southeast all my life, and I've never heard it called "Cherrywine", nor have I ever met someone who thought it was alcoholic.

I've heard this, but I believe that it was called that due to the horrible dialect of the area that I'm originally from. Suamme1 19:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What horrible dialect? (I suspect you mean accent.) People speak normally down here -- it's everyone else that has a horrible accent (or dialect). LOL 138.162.128.53 (talk) 11:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've never heard anyone refer to it as "cherrywine," but their current ad campaign (at least on radio) revolves around a convenience store clerk that refuses to sell the product to minors (and is shocked to learn that there is no beer in root beer). It would definitely fall in line with why it's called Cheerwine in the first place (according to the article anyway). - TM

I have lived in Florida or Georgia my whole life, and had never heard of this stuff till yesterday, when I saw it at an Ace hardware store of all places.

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its now in california. and its caffinated.

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one should note that this is one of the few (or maybe only?) fruit flavored soda that is caffienated. grape, lemon, orange, strawberry and other fruit sodas are never caffienated. also Save Mart Supermarkets, a chain of grocery stores in the central valley of California now stocks it regularly on their shelves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.8.249.246 (talk) 23:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is it available in Southern California? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.67.35.112 (talk) 08:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Odd, it seems to only be available in North and South Carolina. Maybe it's imported? —Preceding unsigned comment added by PotatoTheThird (talkcontribs) 00:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Popularity outside the South

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This is probably less the case with increased distribution, but for some time Cheerwine enjoyed a certain novelty status outside the southeast. It was coveted by northerners and this even figured into one of Cheerwine's ad campaigns ("Yankees Hoarding Cheerwine"). Anecdotally when I visited a friend in Boston he asked me to bring "a lot of Cheerwine" because of the novelty appeal. If I recall Cheerwine was also cast in a similar light during a cameo of sorts in an episode of King of Queens.

A Pop Culture section might make sense for this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.215.132.137 (talk) 15:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, it wouldn't. Mjpresson (talk) 03:23, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's one hell of a well-reasoned argument. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.225.157 (talk) 03:00, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is an encyclopedia

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I removed a lot of inappropriate promotional nonsense from this article. Wikipedia is not a vehicle to advertise your product. And 2 non free images? C'mon...Mjpresson (talk) 03:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where is it stated that an article cannot have two non-free images that each show something different and are both relevant? TH1RT3EN talkcontribs 04:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The second pic is irrelevant. Why do insist on the article being an advert?? Mjpresson (talk) 04:17, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't. The second image shows products related to the softdrink. It doesn't list prices or anything like you would expect in an advertisement, it talks about the product. Why is the related product section promotional? TH1RT3EN talkcontribs 04:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would be clear to most that the entire article is promotional. Mjpresson (talk) 04:31, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Really, Thirteen, a section telling you which stores you can buy it at??? Great contribution. Mjpresson (talk) 04:34, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The section had extra information that could have been removed itself without having to remove the entire section. The products are related to the softdrink are they not? You also removed both images at one point, obviously one non-free image to show the product is better than none and is allowed. TH1RT3EN talkcontribs 04:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also on that note, one could easily crop File:Cheerwine-icecream.jpg to only show the actual bar on the right, which would then be a valid image. TH1RT3EN talkcontribs 05:06, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edits are clearly explained

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User Th1rt3en is restoring promotional material to this article such as non free images and promotional statements. This article was an advertisement and I fixed it. User Th1rt3en is attempting to restore it to an advertisement. Mjpresson (talk) 03:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've cleaned up the current sections and have provided some refs. I'll look for more over the weekend as I cleanup the article. It's much better to tag and clean up an article rather than blank most of it and leave it a stub. Please do not accuse me of restoring only to make it an advertisement. TH1RT3EN talkcontribs 05:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that you have improved the article with a better approach than mine. I'm a bold deletionist when it comes to promotional and unsourced edits. My only problem would be the placement of a second non free image that hypes the product. People looking up Cheerwine in an encyclopedia aren't looking for a picture of a tasty popcicle that makes you want to buy the product. Mjpresson (talk)
Ah, but what about the picture of an ice cream bar makes it "tasty"? But again, the second non-free image was showing the existence of the products, which is why it combined the sherbet and the cream bar boxes and the actual cream bar. Just because the photo shows the product, doesn't mean that it's trying to be promotional. For instance, the Coca-Cola article shows several variations of copyrighted and trademarked packaging, many of which are in cans which don't allow you to actually see the cola. TH1RT3EN talkcontribs 16:40, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The image issue isn't as important to me as the cleanup you and I accomplished. Onward I say! Mjpresson (talk) 20:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NYTimes coverage

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Some coverage in a NYTimes article: For Some Foods, You Just Had to Be There By SARAH MASLIN NIR Published: August 17, 2010 Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 14:34, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cheerwine's Captain Morgan endorsement

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Hello Cwobeel. I recently edited the Cheerwine wiki page so that the sentence that said: > Cheerwine pairs well with Captain Morgan, otherwise known as the "Whining Pirate." Instead said something like > Cheerwine is often mixed with Captain Morgan to make a drink known as the "Whining Pirate." The former is subjective, and smacks of endorsement. It smells like something put in the page by a marketer; a quick websearch for the 'whining pirate' (sans quotes) brings up nothing about cocktails on the first page. My edit was conservative, removed no information except the subjective judgement of an unknown personality, and left the dubious endorsement in place only slightly nerfed. I don't know what you thought you improved by reverting my effort, but I encourage you to think again. I don't have wikipedia editing as a hobby, and don't care to get involved if I'm going to be dealing with reverts on something as un-revert-worthy as this. Instead, I encourage you to do two things. 1) Edit that sentence yourself to remove the endorsement. Perhaps you could write something like "The Cheerwine company has said that the only acceptable alcoholic mixer for...Captain Morgan" (This may be true) or some other phrase that does not equal saying "Wikipedia says that these things taste good when mixed together" (unambiguously subjective and unambiguously an endorsement; well done.) 2) Consider having a little more input and a little more care as to what you revert. If you're reverting things just because they seem to not improve things, perhaps it's because you're not paying attention, didn't take the time to read carefully, or are biased? Or perhaps you, in that particular instance, are none of those things and had a good reason that you didn't explain. As a result, I'm annoyed and, rather than waste more time, I'm leaving you with your ball, giving you a lecture on how you're not making Wikipedia any friends OR improvements here, and going back to my own pastimes. I wash my hands. I don't need or want a response. I just encourage you to consider the above. (Pasting this to the talk page of Cheerwine as well as your own talk page, because while I believe your actions were casually dismissive and inattentive rather than malicious or biased, I may be wrong and would give the community an opportunity to notice if your flaws are otherwise.) 72.130.91.250 (talk) 17:29, 20 June 2014 (UTC)FFFFFF[reply]

Blah blah blah, but you're right about the change so I restored your language. --jpgordon::==( o ) 20:24, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Needs photo of this beverage

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Needed in this article: a photo showing what this beverage actually looks like (!) 173.88.246.138 (talk) 22:20, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Opening text doesn't quite make sense

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"Cheerwine is a cherry-flavored soft drink by Carolina Beverage Corporation of Salisbury, North Carolina. It has been produced since 1917, claiming to be "the oldest continuing soft drink company still operated by the same family"." So a drink is making a claim? And a drink is a company that is operated? What are we really trying to say? Equinox 00:12, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ingredients incorrect

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cheerwine bottle says it's made with real cane sugar, there is no corn syrup 2603:6010:5E26:6100:10AC:3107:2A6:F259 (talk) 02:19, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Availability in WA

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“Other spots to find Cheerwine are the many "specialty soda" stores throughout the country, as well as WinCo Foods in Washington state”

Not since COVID. 2601:1C2:5000:E7:F47A:328C:CCA0:7078 (talk) 06:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]