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== Pansexuality ==
== Someone (another editor) should add Pansexual/Omnisexual to the Sexual orientation template and also. . . ==


I feel as if [[Pansexuality]] should be listed as a sexual orientation rather than under related terms -- many pansexuals view their identity as its' own distinct orientation and numerous LGBT groups list it as such. [[User:Nekomancerjade|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: maroon">Nekomancer</span><span style="font-family: Georgia; color: darkgreen">'''Jaidyn'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nekomancerjade|<span style="color: mauve">talk</span>]]) 22:24, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Given the meaning of 'Pansexual', probably add, and find citation for, orientation not only to 'persons' as the article now states in its paragraph 1 but 'persons or things' as personhood is likely not a distinction made by some or most pansexuals.
:It's about the difference between [[sexual identity]] and sexual orientation. Non-academic sources sometimes conflate the terms, as people may in common speech, but they are not the same. As the [[pansexuality]] article makes clear, many sources consider it to be under the bisexual umbrella. <span style="font-family:Palatino">[[User:Crossroads|'''Crossroads''']]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Crossroads|-talk-]]</sup> 00:32, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


== Fictosexuality and Nijikon ==
After all, 'Asexual' is already included in this template.


I have reverted edits that add [[Fictosexuality]] and [[Nijikon]] to the template.([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template%3ASexual_orientation&diff=1158498602&oldid=1149043752 diff]) This is clearly overgranular, and Nijikon is not widely accepted as a sexual orientation, but I would also like to question whether Fictosexuality is even a genuine subject at all. If anybody wants to take a look and see what they think, please do. --[[User:DanielRigal|DanielRigal]] ([[User talk:DanielRigal|talk]]) 13:18, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
You might also have to distinguish between generally Pansexual, meaning some people and/or things of any kind MIGHT attract a Pansexual, just as only some women are attractive to homosexual/lesbian women, not all, and Omnisexual which is really just the same word using Latin instead of Greek but is more likely to imply that EVERYTHING attracts an Omnisexual, probably still in varying degree, but possibly more than to a Pansexual in the series homo-, hetero-, a-.


== Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2024 ==
So there's a possibility that the Pansexuality article might have a subsection making this distinction, or that Omnisexual needs to be broken out as a separate entry, and if so, would qualify for separate inclusion in this template, too.

I defer in both these recommended edits to those who are already editing this template and topic, and leave you colleagues to consider and implement these suggestions.

[[User:Pandelver|Pandelver]] ([[User talk:Pandelver|talk]]) 12:34, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

:[[Pansexuality]] is already listed, under "Non-binary categories". It looks like it was added on 30 September 2012 [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Sexual_orientation&direction=next&oldid=515336208 here]. [[User:Trankuility|Trankuility]] ([[User talk:Trankuility|talk]]) 12:51, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

:Yes, pansexuality is already on the template. The reason that it is not listed on the template as a sexual orientation is because the vast majority of scholars do not see it as a sexual orientation, but rather, if they mention it at all, as a [[sexual identity]] that indicates bisexuality. No authoritative sources on sexual orientation label pansexuality as a sexual orientation, and the vast majority of those sources don't even mention it. See [[Template talk:Sexual orientation/Archive 7#Shouldn't the other two sexualities be added back?]] and [[Template talk:Sexual orientation/Archive 8#Pansexuality and polysexuality]], where this matter has been discussed extensively and that [[WP:Consensus]] is to not list it on the template as a sexual orientation. At this point in time, it is [[WP:Fringe]] to call pansexuality a sexual orientation. Also see the debate about pansexuality vs. bisexuality in the Pansexuality article, which clarifies things even further; some people see pansexuality as distinct from bisexuality; some people do not see it as distinct from bisexuality. This is also clear by the debates at [[Talk:Pansexuality]]; a [[WP:Permalink]] is [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pansexuality&oldid=617637347 here.] This bisexuality vs. pansexuality argument is one of the biggest consistent issues I have dealt with at Wikipedia. As for why [[asexuality]] is listed as a sexual orientation, despite there being debate among scholars as to whether or not it is a sexual orientation, see [[Template talk:Sexual orientation/Archive 7#Zoosexuality]] and [[Template talk:Sexual orientation/Archive 7#Is there evidence that Asexuality is a sexual orientation?]] (my view of what a [[WP:Primary source]] means was somewhat faulty back then, though). WP:Consensus has been to leave it listed as a sexual orientation. Unlike with pansexuality, scholars are in a significant debate about whether or not to call asexuality a sexual orientation. With pansexuality, again, they usually don't mention it, or they define it as an aspect of bisexuality...either by calling it bisexuality or by directly calling it an aspect of bisexuality. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 05:47, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

== Recent changes to the template ==

Take note that I don't necessarily agree with any changes that [[User:Sharif uddin|Sharif uddin]] makes to the template, and I have [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sharif_uddin&diff=prev&oldid=628767470#Listening_to_reasons_people_give_for_reverting_you already informed] him that changes to the template should generally be discussed on the template talk page first. Unfortunately, like I indicated on Sharif uddin's talk page, it appears that Sharif uddin is one of those editors who does not interact with other editors (despite what he has stated on his user page), which also means that he is the type of editor who will revert and revert without explanation and drive other editors to engage in a [[WP:Edit war]] with him and possibly cross the [[WP:3RR]] line. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 09:46, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Flyer22, i have read the message u gave me. I usually edit from my mobile so unfortunately i could not point out notification because of my small screen.So, I am very sorry for that. Now let me explain. sexual psycology doesn't mean only the homosexual psycology; and animal sexual behaviour is not only limited in homosexual act. For this reason, i did the recent edits. [[User:Sharif uddin|Sharif uddin]] ([[User talk:Sharif uddin|talk]]) 10:18, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

:[[User:Sharif uddin|Sharif uddin]], with [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Sexual_orientation&curid=2409416&diff=628769732&oldid=628768057 this], I was about to ask: Am I supposed to believe there is a language barrier between us? Because judging from your user page and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=LGBT_rights_in_Bangladesh&diff=prev&oldid=626928545 this], you can surely communicate far better than stating "explain." It's obviously good that you've replied. With regard to Template:Sexual orientation, I already know those things. I've only taken issue with one change you've made to it so far, and I noted that [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sharif_uddin&diff=prev&oldid=628767470#Listening_to_reasons_people_give_for_reverting_you on your talk page] after reverting you. Additionally, I am asking you to slow down with your changes to the template and to propose changes regarding it here on the talk page first. This is because changes to Template:Sexual orientation can be controversial and should have [[WP:Consensus]]. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 10:23, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

:And let's not forget that the template also states, "Please note that gender material on this template should have similar content to the 'Non-binary' section of [[Template:Gender and sexual identities]]. If editing one, please edit the other to ensure consistency." [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 10:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Recent edits changed this wikitext:
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*[[Homosexuality and psychology|Psychology]]
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The use of heading4 is good, although I'm not sure non-human animals should be included as I imagine this template is used mainly as a navigation box for human sexuality topics. Why is the Psychology link changed? My guess is that [[Homosexuality and psychology]] is more on-topic than [[Sexology]] (which is the target of the [[Sexual psychology]] redirect). Also, the former article includes this navbox, while the latter does not. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 10:26, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2014 ==


{{edit semi-protected|Template:Sexual orientation|answered=yes}}
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In the Research section, can someone add [[Transgender sexuality]]? Or another appropriate section. It would be useful to be together with [[Human male sexuality]] and [[Human female sexuality]] but I guess they would be alphabetically separated, though not that bad. [[User:Soares2000|Soares2000]] ([[User talk:Soares2000|talk]]) 20:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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[[User:Ultramaliciousguy|Ultramaliciousguy]] ([[User talk:Ultramaliciousguy|talk]]) 05:28, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> the article you have requested to be added is tagged for deletion. [[User:Stickee|Stickee]] <small>[[User talk:Stickee|(talk)]]</small> 06:47, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

== Removed gender categories from the "Non-binary categories" section ==

Since this is the sexual orientation template, and enough people confuse sexual orientation matters with gender matters as it is, I removed the gender categories from the "Non-binary categories" section of the template with [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Sexual_orientation&diff=664970093&oldid=664960111 this edit]. With [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Sexual_orientation&diff=664970487&oldid=664970093 this edit], I added the [[non-heterosexual]] category to that section. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 04:46, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

[[Androphilia and gynephilia]] and [[queer]] (more so "queer") can be considered gender categories as well, but I left those on for the fact that they are generally about sexual orientation and sexual identity. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 04:54, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 31 July 2015 ==

{{edit semi-protected|Template:Sexual orientation|answered=no}}
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There is a close curly brace"}" instead of a pipe "|" here:* [[Monosexuality}Monosexual]] so the text does not appear as a link.
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[[Special:Contributions/71.62.46.171|71.62.46.171]] ([[User talk:71.62.46.171|talk]]) 00:07, 31 July 2015 (UTC)


:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> Although I have concerns someone may object to this change. [[User:AlphaBetaGamma|ABG]] <small> ([[User talk:AlphaBetaGamma|Talk/Report any mistakes here]]) </small> 02:29, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
:I reverted [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Sexual_orientation&diff=673861715&oldid=673847315 the addition], as it should not be there anyway. Anyone who reads the [[Monosexuality]] article and has commonsense should see why it's entirely unnecessary to include that. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 00:22, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:31, 30 May 2024

Pansexuality

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I feel as if Pansexuality should be listed as a sexual orientation rather than under related terms -- many pansexuals view their identity as its' own distinct orientation and numerous LGBT groups list it as such. NekomancerJaidyn (talk) 22:24, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's about the difference between sexual identity and sexual orientation. Non-academic sources sometimes conflate the terms, as people may in common speech, but they are not the same. As the pansexuality article makes clear, many sources consider it to be under the bisexual umbrella. Crossroads -talk- 00:32, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fictosexuality and Nijikon

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I have reverted edits that add Fictosexuality and Nijikon to the template.(diff) This is clearly overgranular, and Nijikon is not widely accepted as a sexual orientation, but I would also like to question whether Fictosexuality is even a genuine subject at all. If anybody wants to take a look and see what they think, please do. --DanielRigal (talk) 13:18, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2024

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In the Research section, can someone add Transgender sexuality? Or another appropriate section. It would be useful to be together with Human male sexuality and Human female sexuality but I guess they would be alphabetically separated, though not that bad. Soares2000 (talk) 20:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Although I have concerns someone may object to this change. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:29, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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