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==Legless==
==Legless==
What about [http://www.bluechameleon.org/Photo%20&%20Image%20Stockpile%20-%20BCV/WEB%20-%20Bipes%20biporus.htm this one]? [[User:Jimp|Jimp]] 10 March 2006
What about [http://www.bluechameleon.org/Photo%20&%20Image%20Stockpile%20-%20BCV/WEB%20-%20Bipes%20biporus.htm this one]? [[User:Jimp|Jimp]] 10 March 2006
: According to the [[Axolotl]] article it's not an Amphisbaenia, it's from the [[Amphibia]] class. Amphisbaenia are from the [[Sauropsida]] class, according to this article. --[[User:Drakferion|portugal]] ([[User talk:Drakferion|talk]]) 18:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
No, it's an Amphisbaenid, it's Bipes biporus. That's not a picture of an Axolotl. --[[User:Richardson mcphillips|Richardson mcphillips]] ([[User talk:Richardson mcphillips|talk]]) 15:11, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

== Name ==

The article says "Their name is derived from Amphisbaena, a mythical serpent with a head at each end." This may not be 100% correct - T. H. White in "The Book of Beasts" suggests that the mythical creature was an exaggerated version of this real animal. [[User:Vultur|Vultur]] ([[User talk:Vultur|talk]]) 20:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

== Presence ==
There are such animals in [[Portugal]] as well, I've seen them. --[[User:Drakferion|portugal]] ([[User talk:Drakferion|talk]]) 18:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Trogonophidae are also found further North East in North Africa so the map is missing data from North Eastern Algeria and North Western Tunisia. There are multiple sources confirming their presence in this region dating back to the late 1800's, including this map and page from the IUCN Red List website: https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/61589/12502172.

== No Longer Squamates ==

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tetrapod-zoology/2012/04/01/amphisbaenians-and-origins-of-mammals/ [[Special:Contributions/74.109.193.163|74.109.193.163]] ([[User talk:74.109.193.163|talk]]) 19:30, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
:Note the date of that article ;) [[User:Dinoguy2|MMartyniuk]] ([[User talk:Dinoguy2|talk]]) 20:05, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

== New map request ==

The current map is inaccurate, showing, among other things that amphisbaenas occur in Madagascar, in a different area of the Arabian Peninsula from their actual range, and missing their range in Asia Minor. The second page of [http://www.merrittgenomics.com/enwiki/static/docs/Macey,%20J.R.%20%282004%29.%20Phylogenetic%20relationships%20among%20amphisbaenian%20reptiles%20based%20on%20complete%20mitochondrial%20genomic%20sequences.%20Molecular%20Phylogenetics%20and%20Evolution.pdf| this article] contains an accurate map of Amphisbaenia distribution and I'd like to request that a new map be made for this article based on it. Note that the article has different colors for each Family within the group, and that the range of Amphisbaenia is the aggregate of those ranges. It might also be worthwhile to make a distribution map for each family to be included in the respective articles on those taxa. Cheers! [[User:Peter G Werner|Peter G Werner]] ([[User talk:Peter G Werner|talk]]) 02:51, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


Map is very outdated and lacking in data. See Talk Notes under 'Presence'. This map is far more accurate: https://www.repfocus.dk/Amphisbaenia.html

== teeth or tooth? ==

<blockquote>...Most of the skull is solid bone, with a distinctive '''single median tooth''' in the upper jaw....<br><br>...able to tear chunks out of larger prey with their powerful, '''interlocking teeth'''.</blockquote>

i was initially going to ask if this is a contradiction, because i read the first sentence as "they have a single tooth", and not "they have a single tooth that is distinctive, and they have other teeth too".. but i decided to be proactive and [http://scrubmuncher.wordpress.com/2010/05/16/who-needs-limbs/ now am quite glad that they are small and burrow in the ground].

[http://digimorph.org/specimens/Bipes_biporus/ Bipes biporus]

[http://digimorph.org/specimens/Anops_kingii/ Anops kingii]

≈[[User:Sensorsweep|Sensorsweep]] ([[User talk:Sensorsweep|talk]]) 04:47, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

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Legless

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What about this one? Jimp 10 March 2006

According to the Axolotl article it's not an Amphisbaenia, it's from the Amphibia class. Amphisbaenia are from the Sauropsida class, according to this article. --portugal (talk) 18:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's an Amphisbaenid, it's Bipes biporus. That's not a picture of an Axolotl. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 15:11, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Name

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The article says "Their name is derived from Amphisbaena, a mythical serpent with a head at each end." This may not be 100% correct - T. H. White in "The Book of Beasts" suggests that the mythical creature was an exaggerated version of this real animal. Vultur (talk) 20:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Presence

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There are such animals in Portugal as well, I've seen them. --portugal (talk) 18:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Trogonophidae are also found further North East in North Africa so the map is missing data from North Eastern Algeria and North Western Tunisia. There are multiple sources confirming their presence in this region dating back to the late 1800's, including this map and page from the IUCN Red List website: https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/61589/12502172.

No Longer Squamates

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http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tetrapod-zoology/2012/04/01/amphisbaenians-and-origins-of-mammals/ 74.109.193.163 (talk) 19:30, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note the date of that article ;) MMartyniuk (talk) 20:05, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New map request

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The current map is inaccurate, showing, among other things that amphisbaenas occur in Madagascar, in a different area of the Arabian Peninsula from their actual range, and missing their range in Asia Minor. The second page of this article contains an accurate map of Amphisbaenia distribution and I'd like to request that a new map be made for this article based on it. Note that the article has different colors for each Family within the group, and that the range of Amphisbaenia is the aggregate of those ranges. It might also be worthwhile to make a distribution map for each family to be included in the respective articles on those taxa. Cheers! Peter G Werner (talk) 02:51, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Map is very outdated and lacking in data. See Talk Notes under 'Presence'. This map is far more accurate: https://www.repfocus.dk/Amphisbaenia.html

teeth or tooth?

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...Most of the skull is solid bone, with a distinctive single median tooth in the upper jaw....

...able to tear chunks out of larger prey with their powerful, interlocking teeth.

i was initially going to ask if this is a contradiction, because i read the first sentence as "they have a single tooth", and not "they have a single tooth that is distinctive, and they have other teeth too".. but i decided to be proactive and now am quite glad that they are small and burrow in the ground.

Bipes biporus

Anops kingii

Sensorsweep (talk) 04:47, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]