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==Color intervals==
== Israel ==
===Color intervals for 2013===
x < 10 is 98FB98 dark green
10 <= x < 15 is ccffcc light green
15 <= x < 25 is ccffff light blue
25 <= x < 35 is FFD light yellow
35 <= x < 50 is ffff66 dark yellow
50 <= x < 70 is FDD light red
70 >= x is F9D dark red

The color intervals used may need some additional adjustment. RWB uses 5 intervals rather than the 7 we use in the Wikipedia article. It might be good to switch to the RWB scheme. --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 19:38, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

The three-character color codes are showing up as black in the color key in IE8, though they look correct in the full table. The colors look correct in Chrome. (And for the moment let's pretend "Don't use IE8" is not an option.) [[User:Morfusmax|Morfusmax]] ([[User talk:Morfusmax|talk]]) 15:38, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

===Color intervals for 2011-2012 (the scale of this is about 1.5 times wider)===
[-10, -5) = 99ff99 (dark green)
[ -5, 0) = ccffcc (light green)
[ 0, 12) = ccffff (blue)
[ 12, 42) = ffffcc (beige)
[ 42, 65) = ffff66 (yellow)
[ 65, 95) = ff9900 (orange)
[ 95, ..) = ff3333 (red)

===Color intervals for 2002 to 2010===
[ 0, 4) = 99ff99 (dark green)
[ 4, 7) = ccffcc (light green)
[ 7,15) = ccffff (blue)
[15,35) = ffffcc (beige)
[35,50) = ffff66 (yellow)
[50,70) = ff9900 (orange)
[70,..) = ff3333 (red) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ThomasStrohmann|ThomasStrohmann]] ([[User talk:ThomasStrohmann|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ThomasStrohmann|contribs]]) 05:33, 17 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

It is quite interesting really, the colors here. Notice the huge difference between 19 and 20. The change itself says little on its own, but seeing the UK and US among other nations in that obviously different shade than the "free" world is a push to make a point. Most graphs change color at 11 21 31 etc. Ironically I was led here by a media manipulation article. c'est la vie. [[Special:Contributions/75.214.180.96|75.214.180.96]] ([[User talk:75.214.180.96|talk]]) 02:09, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

One would have to know what the basis for this ranking is to draw any conclusions.
I don't know who is supposedly being censored in the US for example. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.24.220.22|76.24.220.22]] ([[User talk:76.24.220.22|talk]]) 01:57, 4 September 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

It's obvious that these numbers are meaningless without full details of the methodology.
--Arthur Borges 17:35, 7 April 2012 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Arthurborges|Arthurborges]] ([[User talk:Arthurborges|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Arthurborges|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

When Finland is at the top it looks trustworthy, but Estonia at 9, meant "free"... it's quite strange. See [[Johan_B%C3%A4ckman]] whose "controversial thoughts" are allowed in Finland but banned in Estonia--[[Special:Contributions/213.208.170.194|213.208.170.194]] ([[User talk:213.208.170.194|talk]]) 14:25, 6 June 2011 (UTC).

== This article is unclear ==

Having read this article I am still no better informed as to what the "Press Freedom Index" is than I was before I read it. It fails to explain what all the numbers actually mean. For example, Australia and New Zealand are two very closely related and similar countries yet Australia has a PFI of 5.38 while NZ is only 1.5. Why, and what does the difference between them mean in the real world? Looking at the references, the questionnaire seems incredibly subjective and there is no explanation of the methodology used to come up with the final numbers. The colouring used in the table is not explained and doesn't correspond to the image. Using Oz and NZ again, both are blue yet, in 2009 when the image was created, both countries are green in the table. The article needs to be expanded to give the table context and explain to readers what the numbers mean, colouring needs to be fixed and the image updated, with appropriate referencing to establish notability of the subject. --[[User:AussieLegend|AussieLegend]] ([[User talk:AussieLegend|talk]]) 12:16, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

:{{Partly done}} The text of the article has been expanded which I hope at least partly addresses some of these concerns. Data for 2013 still needs to be added and the map needs to be updated and should use the same colors as the table. --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 06:10, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

:{{Partly done}} Data from the 2013 report has been added. Still need to update the map. --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 19:40, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

:{{Done}} The map has been updated using data from the RWB 2013 report. The colors in the map are now similar to the colors in the table. The map uses five categories, while the table uses seven categories. RWB uses five categories in their map. I think it would be good to switch the table to use five categories as well, but that will take a bit of work to do for all of the prior years and so, I at least, won't be doing it soon. --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 03:57, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

== Updates for 2011/2012 ==

Updated press freedom indexes are available at http://en.rsf.org/spip.php?page=classement&id_rubrique=1043 [[Special:Contributions/121.54.22.106|121.54.22.106]] ([[User talk:121.54.22.106|talk]]) 18:27, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

:{{Done}} The 2011-2012 data was included in the article sometime ago. --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 05:59, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

== Holocaust denial ==

Is the the fact that denial of holocaust is verbotten contribute to lowering of the country's index?
Can you doubt holocaust in Finland's newpapers? I hope so. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Autismal|Autismal]] ([[User talk:Autismal|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Autismal|contribs]]) 00:00, 31 January 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hello! Why don't you contact the agency directly? You can write them a message and indicate that they might have missed something. It is human thing to err. However, on the other side, perhaps this is the essence of human rights? Very complex it is. I wish you luck! :)
:--[[User:Martina Moreau|Martina Moreau]] ([[User talk:Martina Moreau|talk]]) 01:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

==New report 2013==

http://en.rsf.org/spip.php?page=classement&id_rubrique=1054
--[[User:Martina Moreau|Martina Moreau]] ([[User talk:Martina Moreau|talk]]) 01:43, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

:{{Partly done}} Data from the 2013 report has been added. Still need to update the map. --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 19:42, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

:{{Done}} Map updated to use data from the 2013 report. --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 03:58, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

== Methodology - Confirmation needed ==

There needs to be more confirmation of information, such as methodology. The section on methodology is taken from RWB's own literature. However, many journalists here in the U.S. at news outlets large and prominent or small and local can say they have never received a questionnaire and that requests for information as to how to be included in the survey and receive the questionnaires in the future are ignored.

Notably, RWB also does not say how many questionnaires it has sent out and how many are returned and it is not clear they are willing to disclose this number.

It is not clear at all that the methodology is as represented. Also, it is not clear how well the country rankings follow the questionnaire data. There is a lot more research that needs to be done to accurately portray RWB's Freedom Index. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Eidos2|Eidos2]] ([[User talk:Eidos2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Eidos2|contribs]]) 22:33, 2 May 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Discrepancies between Wikipedia's Map and Reporters Without Borders' Map ==

There seem to be some discrepancies between the [[:File:RWB-PressFreedomIndex2013-WorldMap.svg|Wikipedia's Map]] and [http://fr.rsf.org/IMG/jpg/2013-carte-liberte-presse_1900.jpg Reporters Without Borders' Map]

Japan takes the second color in RWB's map, while it takes the third color in Wikipedia's map.

Nigeria takes the fourth color in RWB's map, while it takes the third color in Wikipedia's map.

Angola takes the third color in RWB's map, while it takes the fourth color in Wikipedia's map.


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Color !! Wikipedia !! Reporters Without Borders
|-
| First || Dark Green || White
|-
| Second || Light Green || Yellow
|-
| Third || Light Yellow || Orange
|-
| Fourth || Light Red || Red
|-
| Fifth || Dark Red || Black
|}

{{anchor|Jjjjjjjjjj_theory}}My theory as to how this came about:

I'm thinking that the Wikipedia map came directly from the [http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2013,1054.html rankings]. (all countries with values within some range got the first color, all countries with values within the next range got the second color, etc.).

The RWB map is ''based'' on the rankings, but then they changed some, perhaps based on factors other than the raw number that came out from the analysis.
:(one additional factor might include how the country dealt with coverage of events or situations that occurred after all the questionnaires had already been returned....) [[User:Jjjjjjjjjj|Jjjjjjjjjj]] ([[User talk:Jjjjjjjjjj|talk]]) 02:54, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
::Perhaps, but this is all just speculation on our part. We don't know anything for sure. But, if RWB was going to make last minute adjustments, shouldn't they make them to both the scores and the map, rather than just the map? --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 03:41, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

For example: Nigeria at rank 115 is colored red in the RWB map while other countries with a lower rank are colored orange: Macedonia (116), Venezula (117), Nepal (118), Ecuador (119), Cameroon (120) and South Sudan (124).

Tanzania is yellow at rank 70 while higher ranked countries such as Argentina (54), Hungary (56), Italy (57), and Central African Republic (65) are orange.

Angola is orange at rank 130 while higher ranked countries such as Afghanistan (128), Colombia (129), Honduras (127) and Ukraine (126) are red.

[[User:Jjjjjjjjjj|Jjjjjjjjjj]] ([[User talk:Jjjjjjjjjj|talk]]) 23:57, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

:I noticed this when I was working on the table and the map and sent a note to the US RWB office asking about it. I got no reply.

Here is a copy of the note I sent to RWB:
From: Jeff Ogden <jeff.ogden@umich.edu>
Subject: question about the 2013 Press Freedom Index map
Date: February 11, 2013 4:12:54 PM EST
To: dcdesk@rsf.org
Hello,
I've been looking at the Reporters Without Borders' 2013 Press Freedom Index
report and the associated world map.
Is it possible that a few countries on the map are shown with the wrong colors?
The classifications as shown by the colors on the map, don't seem to agree with
the rankings and scores from the report and the classifications of other countries
with slightly higher or lower rankings and scores in a handful of cases. In particular:
* Angola shown as Noticeable Problems, but possibly should be Difficult Problems
* Chad shown as Difficult Situation, but possibly should be Noticeable Problems
* Brunei shown as Difficult Situation, but possibly should be Noticeable Problems
* Nigeria shown as Difficult Situation, but possibly should be Noticeable Problems
* South Sudan shown as Difficult Situation, but possibly should be Noticeable Problems
* Tajikistan shown as Difficult Situation, but possibly should be Noticeable Problems
* Tanzania shown as Satisfactory Situation, but possibly should be Noticeable Problems
Or, if the classifications shown on the map for the above countries are correct, then
are there mistakes in the classifications for other countries with rankings and scores
that are slightly higher or lower than the ones listed above?
I've been trying to figure out the range of rankings or the range of scores that
corresponds to each of the five classifications. I haven't found that information
explicitly written down, so I have been working to figure it out empirically by
looking at the map. But some of the classifications seem to be out of order with respect
to the rankings and scores. Are the ranges of rankings or scores for the different
classifications written down somewhere?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
-Jeff Ogden
retired University of Michigan staff member
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103
USA
:I don't think that there is much that can be done about this at this point. If I have to choose, I'd rather that the WP map be consistent with the table than with the RWB map since I can't explain why the RWB map is colored the way it is. What do others think? --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 02:07, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

::It's possible that a number of mistakes got into the RWB map. However, [[#Jjjjjjjjjj_theory|as stated above]], I think it is more likely that the staff made various judgments on the coloring for different countries aside from the rankings.

::I remember reading in the Wikipedia article on the [[Corruption Perceptions Index]] that people raised the question of how much the CPI gives a full picture of how things go on in a particular country, and so I think one could raise that general comment about any index or rating whether it be applied to countries, companies, stocks, sports teams, athletes, etc.

::Two different patients might go to the doctor on the same day, and have the same or similar vitals and numeric data, but very different health and life situations.

::Of course in the CPI case the goal was to measure corruption which [[Corruption Perceptions Index#Criticism|as the article said is by nature hidden]].

::Anyway, I can send Reporters Without Borders another note.

<pre>
To: internet@rsf.org
From: david.kit.friedman@gmail.com

Dear Reporters Without Borders,

I have been working on the Wikipedia article for the
Press Freedom Index that Reporters Without Borders has
been publishing since 2002.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index

Thank you very much for providing this information
to the public on the Internet.

The records of the index going back to 2002
are available in a tabular form in the article;
however there is something that we don't
understand about the current map for 2013:

Some countries seem to be colored out of order
with their rank.

For example, Nigeria is ranked 115, while Macedonia
is ranked 116, Venezuela is 117, Nepal is 118, Ecuador
is 119, Cameroon is 120 and South Sudan is 124.

http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2013,1054.html

Yet Macedonia, Venezuela, Nepal, Ecuador, Cameroon,
and South Sudan are all orange while Nigeria is red.

http://fr.rsf.org/IMG/jpg/2013-carte-liberte-presse_1900.jpg

Since Nigeria is ranked higher it would seem that
Nigeria should be orange or lighter.

Angola is at rank 130 while Ukraine is at 126,
Honduras is at 127, Afghanistan is at 128,
and Colombia is at 129.

Yet Angola is orange while Ukraine, Honduras,
Afghanistan, and Colombia are all red.

Since Angola is ranked lower it would seem that
Angola should be red or darker.

Please let us know if you have any information on
how the colors for those particular countries
were picked for the map.

David Friedman

P.S. The discussion page for the article is available here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Press_Freedom_Index
</pre>

::[[User:Jjjjjjjjjj|Jjjjjjjjjj]] ([[User talk:Jjjjjjjjjj|talk]]) 22:26, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

== Discrepancies between Map and Table ==

I just [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Press_Freedom_Index&diff=562468196&oldid=557661166 made a brief comment] on the article about how although five colors are used for the map seven colors are used for the below table.

For example, Canada is colored dark green on the map, but is light green in the table.

[[User:Jjjjjjjjjj|Jjjjjjjjjj]] ([[User talk:Jjjjjjjjjj|talk]]) 23:57, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

:Should we change the colors used? We could (i) change the WP map to agree with the table, (ii) change the table to agree with the map, or (iii) leave things as they are? Which approach would be better? For myself, I like (ii) best since five colors are used on the RWB map (not the same five), we have good names to go with the five colors and it might be hard to come up with good names for seven. I also think that seven categories is too many for people to hold in their minds as they look at a map. Five colors seem more workable to me. --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 02:20, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

:: I think option (ii) would be okay.
:: Or just leaving it the same (option (iii)) would also be fine. [[User:Jjjjjjjjjj|Jjjjjjjjjj]] ([[User talk:Jjjjjjjjjj|talk]]) 22:26, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

== Greenland ==

There isn't any ranking for [[Greenland]], and so perhaps Greenland is just taking the same color as for Denmark.

[[User:Jjjjjjjjjj|Jjjjjjjjjj]] ([[User talk:Jjjjjjjjjj|talk]]) 23:57, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

:Yes, I assume that this is the case too (Greenland is the same as Denmark). --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 02:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

:: okay, [[User:Jjjjjjjjjj|Jjjjjjjjjj]] ([[User talk:Jjjjjjjjjj|talk]]) 22:26, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

== 2014 update ==

Needs updating--[[Special:Contributions/80.53.5.108|80.53.5.108]] ([[User talk:80.53.5.108|talk]]) 23:12, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

''The following was posted to my talk page this afternoon. I'm moving a copy together with my reply here. --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 00:23, 12 February 2014 (UTC)


Why does Israel ranked so low?
:hey, could you update your map to the newest report: http://rsf.org/index2014/en-index2014.php --[[Special:Contributions/80.53.5.108|80.53.5.108]] ([[User talk:80.53.5.108|talk]]) 23:21, 11 February 2014 (UTC)


I don’t understand. [[User:דולב חולב|דולב חולב]] ([[User talk:דולב חולב|talk]]) 04:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
::I assume the map you are talking about is [[:File:RWB-PressFreedomIndex2013-WorldMap.svg]]. It isn't my map, but I'll look into updating it. It may take awhile. I took a quick look at the RWB website and I didn't see a list of countries with their 2014 ratings. All I found were text descriptions and a map without a key. Perhaps I missed it. Hints welcome. The RWB article is dated 12 February, which is tomorrow, so perhaps they are still in the process of putting everything in place. --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163#top|talk]]) 00:12, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
:::As noted on the file talk, [[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]], this image is used on pages with only the occasional interested contributor updating them, or in articles where there only appear to be relatively high traffic based on edit-warring over other matters. Since this is time sensitive (and we have no idea as to the extent of changes in rankings over the coming year), it's probably better to enter info as text at this point and generate a map much later in the year. Are there any other interested contributors with an opinion on the matter? --[[User:Iryna Harpy|Iryna Harpy]] ([[User talk:Iryna Harpy|talk]]) 01:08, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
::::The report has been published today, Irina... And updating a map is not a difficult task. I suppose you could do that, instead of visiting the page and writing your comment :) There you go the link: http://rsf.org/index2014/en-index2014.php --[[Special:Contributions/94.118.41.74|94.118.41.74]] ([[User talk:94.118.41.74|talk]]) 10:51, 12 February 2014 (UTC)


== Legend ==
:::::So could you, [[Special:Contributions/94.118.41.74|94.118.41.74]]. --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 01:22, 13 February 2014 (UTC)


I’m changing the colors. It should go- yellow green blue, not yellow blue green. <span style="text-shadow:#000000 0px 1px 2px;">[[User:48JCL|<span style="color:#000000">'''48JCL'''</span>]] ([[User_talk:48JCL|<span style="color:#000000">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/48JCL|<span style="color:#000000">contribs</span>]])</span> 15:07, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
:::RWB has posted more 2014 information on their website, including a spreadsheet with ranks and scores for individual countries and a downloadable PNG file with a version of the world map that uses a different color scheme than their fancy online map that is available on the web site. The PNG map has a key. So with this additional information we can map the classifications from the RWB PNG map to the countries in the RWB spreadsheet and from that we can update the table in the article and the SVG map that we maintain on the Commons. It shouldn't be hard, but it will take a little bit of time to make sure we do it accurately. I'll try to do that over the next few days. --[[User:W163|Jeff Ogden (W163)]] ([[User talk:W163|talk]]) 01:22, 13 February 2014 (UTC)


== Protection ==
== OECS ==


OECS ([[Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States]]) has [https://rsf.org/en/country-oecs 68 place in RSF rating]. I understand difference between country and organization, but if it in the ranking, maybe we should add OECS to the ranking? [[User:MrDogit|MrDogit]] ([[User talk:MrDogit|talk]]) 21:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm sorry I don't know the proper way to request this.


:Yes, I would say so. [[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|talk]]) 21:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Should this page maybe be protected? It gets a lot of vandalism, particularly on the US ranking.[[Special:Contributions/2001:470:1F14:F3A:0:0:0:2|2001:470:1F14:F3A:0:0:0:2]] ([[User talk:2001:470:1F14:F3A:0:0:0:2|talk]]) 18:53, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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Israel

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Why does Israel ranked so low?

I don’t understand. דולב חולב (talk) 04:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Legend

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I’m changing the colors. It should go- yellow green blue, not yellow blue green. 48JCL (talk • contribs) 15:07, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OECS

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OECS (Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States) has 68 place in RSF rating. I understand difference between country and organization, but if it in the ranking, maybe we should add OECS to the ranking? MrDogit (talk) 21:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I would say so. Ymblanter (talk) 21:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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