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| ⚫ | The image of diaspora you have put in this article is the diaspora of all the bosnians and not of the bosniaks. You must design a new map of Bosniak diaspora or you can just delete it. [[Special:Contributions/188.172.110.89|188.172.110.89]] ([[User talk:188.172.110.89|talk]]) 11:43, 18 July 2023 (UTC) |
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As stated in the above section, I request the addition of Turkey to the infobox. It should be "{{flagcountry|Turkey}}: 40.000 to 800.000 (est.)", citing the two sources given above. [[Special:Contributions/89.245.131.94|89.245.131.94]] ([[User talk:89.245.131.94|talk]]) 11:16, 23 November 2020 (UTC) |
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: {{Partly done}} After reviewing the sources carefully and searching for the original sources used in that thesis, I determined that the [https://konda.com.tr/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/2006_09_KONDA_Toplumsal_Yapi.pdf KONDA report (2006)] seems to be most reliable. The most important info is on page 15 (0.06% Bosniak) and page 16 (48 million population used in calculations). This leads to a rough total of 28,800 Bosniaks as of 2006, which I added to the infobox. If you want to introduce the other sources that you are referring to (USCWM, census, etc.), please find them in their original form before reviving this request. [[User:TimSmit|TimSmit]] ([[User talk:TimSmit|talk]]) 16:58, 3 January 2021 (UTC) |
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::Dear Smit, it's about double standards. en.wiki and I don't know who edits it about Croats and Serbs, where they take into account, for example something like this- without cenus reports https://web.archive.org/web/20090209021046/http://www.milliyet.com.tr/default.aspx?aType=SonDakika&Kategori=yasam&ArticleID=873452&Date=07.06.2008&ver=16 this is not apply for Bosniaks, you know how much errors are there is in those numbers ? because you don't take into account that Bosniaks defined themselves either as Bosniak, Bosnian or Muslim. e.g. Slovenia according to the 2002 census, there were about 38,000 Bosniaks, approximately the same as Serbs and Croats, Wikipedia says 21,000. 20 years after census, according to an estimate, there are 60,000-80,000, more than Croats and Serbs. https://old.delo.si/novice/slovenija/oni-so-bosnjaki-ceprav-smo-jih-klicali-bosanci.htm . this is the essence of how they treat Bosniaks, they want there not to be so many of them, on the other side the assumption is taken into account regarding Croats and Serbs,... In the case of Bosniaks, according to the official census, their number on Wikipedia is reduced [[User:Dinodinac|Dinodinac]] ([[User talk:Dinodinac|talk]]) 15:27, 22 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:Helo, according to this estimate, there are 2 million Bosniaks in Turkey https://web.archive.org/web/20090209021046/http://www.milliyet.com.tr/default.aspx?aType=SonDakika&Kategori=yasam&ArticleID=873452&Date=07.06.2008&ver=16 I don't understand why they take into account the estimates regarding Croats, that according to the estimate there are 1.2 million Croats in the USA, but according to the census there are 400,000. Then it is estimated that there are 400,000 Croats in Argentina and 350,000 in Chile without a census. Why is it not taken this into account for Bosniaks, who are numerous in the entire Levant, not only in Turkey because of eksodus e.g. the surname Bushnak. Then there is an error where it says that there are 21 thousand Bosniaks in Slovenia. According to the census, Bosniaks identified themselves as either Bosniak, Muslim or Bosnian, according to the 2002 census there were about 38 thousand of them, almost the same as Serbs and Croats in Slovenia. After 2002, in 2020, it is estimated that there are 60,000 to 80,000 Bosniaks in Slovenia, i.e. more than Croats and Serbs https://old.delo.si/novice/slovenija/oni-so-bosnjaki-ceprav-smo-jih-klicali-bosanci.html . If we consider the official data from 2021, there are about 80 thousand citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and the majority of them are Bosniaks https://pxweb.stat.si/SiStat/sl [[User:Dinodinac|Dinodinac]] ([[User talk:Dinodinac|talk]]) 15:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:Someone deleted the map completely, many countrys are missing and someone changed the number of Bosniaks world wide from 3 to 2 mill. Only Balkan has more then 2 mill (Turkye included) and with US, Kanada and EU countrys the number is around 3 mill. [[User:Vidorinac|Vidorinac]] ([[User talk:Vidorinac|talk]]) 18:53, 6 September 2023 (UTC) |
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== Symbology == |
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== Bosniaks real numbers world wide == |
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Bosniak people have a number of crest relating to their origins and faith. 11:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC)\\\11:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC)~\\11:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC)~\ [[Special:Contributions/137.59.221.36|137.59.221.36]] ([[User talk:137.59.221.36|talk]]) 11:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC) |
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Is there anyone who can change the population from 2 to 3 mill? Someone is playing with this page (Bosniaks) and the person deleted a lot of information. Someone wan't to make the numbers of Bosniaks in the world less then it actually is. Deleted countrys, Austria, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, France, Italy, Australia, Kanada and more. In Turkye there are 500 000 Bosniaks for example and it's estimated that there are even more. [[User:Vidorinac|Vidorinac]] ([[User talk:Vidorinac|talk]]) 18:39, 6 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:Please state a source for this. [[User:CheeseInTea|CheeseInTea]] ([[User talk:CheeseInTea|talk]]) 12:46, 27 April 2022 (UTC) |
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== Use of the template "Lower" in the infobox? == |
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Greetings and felicitations. I'm wondering: why are the citations in the infobox are enclosed in "Lower" templates, making them subscripted? —[[User:DocWatson42|DocWatson42]] ([[User talk:DocWatson42|talk]]) 11:18, 1 October 2022 (UTC) |
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Please insert a period at the end of the sentence "Recent Anglophone scholarship has tended to downplay the role of migrations. For example Timothy Gregory conjectures that "It is now generally agreed that the people who lived in the Balkans after the Slavic "invasions" were probably for the most part the same as those who had lived there earlier, although the creation of new political groups and arrival of small numbers of immigrants caused people to look at themselves as distinct from their neighbours, including the Byzantines"". [[Special:Contributions/100.36.106.199|100.36.106.199]] ([[User talk:100.36.106.199|talk]]) 12:29, 29 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Tollens|Tollens]] ([[User talk:Tollens|talk]]) 20:24, 29 September 2023 (UTC) |
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== Someone misspelled "Horse skull" == |
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== Bosniaks == |
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"One of these traditions which could originate from the pre-Slavic era, is a Bosniak tradition of placing a horse's scull tied with a rope into river Bosna, to fight off drought." (190), unless that's how it is actually spelled I'm pretty sure it should be "horse's skull". [[User:Hellothereperso|Hellothereperso]] ([[User talk:Hellothereperso|talk]]) 17:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC) |
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according to the comparison of the South Slavic nations, we can say that in addition to the real genocide, it continues in another form as the erasure of the number of Bosniaks, and this can only be noticed in relation to them. For Serbs and Croats, informal information are taken into account of institutions and not the census . This is not taken into account for Bosniaks here is proof https://web.archive.org/web/20090209021046/http://www.milliyet.com.tr/default.aspx?aType=SonDakika&Kategori=yasam&ArticleID=873452&Date=07.06.2008&ver=16 where it is estimated that there are around 2 million Bosniaks in Turkey, or that 2 million Turks are of Bosniak origin . Not only in Turkey, but in the entire Levant there are many people of Bosniak origin, e.g. the surname Bushnak. Then there is an error where it says that there are 21 thousand Bosniaks in Slovenia. According to the census, Bosniaks identified themselves as either Bosniak, Muslim or Bosnian, according to the 2002 census there were about 38 thousand of them, almost the same as Serbs and Croats in Slovenia. After 2002, in 2020, it is estimated that there are 60,000 to 80,000 Bosniaks in Slovenia, i.e. more than Croats and Serbs https://old.delo.si/novice/slovenija/oni-so-bosnjaki-ceprav-smo-jih-klicali-bosanci.html . If we consider the official data from 2021, there are about 80 thousand citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and the majority of them are Bosniaks https://pxweb.stat.si/SiStat/sl. [[User:Dinodinac|Dinodinac]] ([[User talk:Dinodinac|talk]]) 14:27, 22 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:Done. [[User:Governor Sheng|Governor Sheng]] ([[User talk:Governor Sheng|talk]]) 16:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Bosniaks == |
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== Error in article about Bosniak national affirmation process in SFRJ == |
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according to the comparison of the South Slavic nations, we can say that in addition to the real genocide, it continues in another form as the erasure of the number of Bosniaks, and this can only be noticed in relation to them. For Serbs and Croats, informal information are taken into account of institutions and not the census . This is not taken into account for Bosniaks here is proof https://web.archive.org/web/20090209021046/http://www.milliyet.com.tr/default.aspx?aType=SonDakika&Kategori=yasam&ArticleID=873452&Date=07.06.2008&ver=16 where it is estimated that there are around 2 million Bosniaks in Turkey, or that 2 million Turks are of Bosniak origin . Not only in Turkey, but in the entire Levant there are many people of Bosniak origin, e.g. the surname Bushnak. Then there is an error where it says that there are 21 thousand Bosniaks in Slovenia. According to the census, Bosniaks identified themselves as either Bosniak, Muslim or Bosnian, according to the 2002 census there were about 38 thousand of them, almost the same as Serbs and Croats in Slovenia. After 2002, in 2020, it is estimated that there are 60,000 to 80,000 Bosniaks in Slovenia, i.e. more than Croats and Serbs https://old.delo.si/novice/slovenija/oni-so-bosnjaki-ceprav-smo-jih-klicali-bosanci.html . If we consider the official data from 2021, there are about 80 thousand citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and the majority of them are Bosniaks https://pxweb.stat.si/SiStat/sl. [[User:Dinodinac|Dinodinac]] ([[User talk:Dinodinac|talk]]) 14:48, 22 May 2023 (UTC) |
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'Tito changed his view and stated that recognition of Muslims and their national identity should occur. In 1968 the move was protested in the Serb republic and by Serb nationalists such as Dobrica Ćosić.' |
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No such thing called 'Serb Republic' existed at the time. It should state SR Serbia (Socialist Republic of Serbia). People might assume the post Dayton entity Serb Republic existed back in the 60's. |
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| ⚫ | The image of diaspora you have put in this article is the diaspora of all the bosnians and not of the bosniaks. You must design a new map of Bosniak diaspora or you can just delete it. [[Special:Contributions/188.172.110.89|188.172.110.89]] ([[User talk:188.172.110.89|talk]]) 11:43, 18 July 2023 (UTC) |
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Somebody change please. Thank you. |
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== Mistake in diaspora map == |
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[[Special:Contributions/185.209.198.94|185.209.198.94]] ([[User talk:185.209.198.94|talk]]) 18:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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[edit]The image of diaspora you have put in this article is the diaspora of all the bosnians and not of the bosniaks. You must design a new map of Bosniak diaspora or you can just delete it. 188.172.110.89 (talk) 11:43, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Someone deleted the map completely, many countrys are missing and someone changed the number of Bosniaks world wide from 3 to 2 mill. Only Balkan has more then 2 mill (Turkye included) and with US, Kanada and EU countrys the number is around 3 mill. Vidorinac (talk) 18:53, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Bosniaks real numbers world wide
[edit]Is there anyone who can change the population from 2 to 3 mill? Someone is playing with this page (Bosniaks) and the person deleted a lot of information. Someone wan't to make the numbers of Bosniaks in the world less then it actually is. Deleted countrys, Austria, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, France, Italy, Australia, Kanada and more. In Turkye there are 500 000 Bosniaks for example and it's estimated that there are even more. Vidorinac (talk) 18:39, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
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Please insert a period at the end of the sentence "Recent Anglophone scholarship has tended to downplay the role of migrations. For example Timothy Gregory conjectures that "It is now generally agreed that the people who lived in the Balkans after the Slavic "invasions" were probably for the most part the same as those who had lived there earlier, although the creation of new political groups and arrival of small numbers of immigrants caused people to look at themselves as distinct from their neighbours, including the Byzantines"". 100.36.106.199 (talk) 12:29, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Someone misspelled "Horse skull"
[edit]"One of these traditions which could originate from the pre-Slavic era, is a Bosniak tradition of placing a horse's scull tied with a rope into river Bosna, to fight off drought." (190), unless that's how it is actually spelled I'm pretty sure it should be "horse's skull". Hellothereperso (talk) 17:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Error in article about Bosniak national affirmation process in SFRJ
[edit]'Tito changed his view and stated that recognition of Muslims and their national identity should occur. In 1968 the move was protested in the Serb republic and by Serb nationalists such as Dobrica Ćosić.'
No such thing called 'Serb Republic' existed at the time. It should state SR Serbia (Socialist Republic of Serbia). People might assume the post Dayton entity Serb Republic existed back in the 60's.
Somebody change please. Thank you.
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