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Not Like Cats

Chows can be independent, but not like cats. Chows are known for bonding to one person/family (extreme loyalty) ^[1]. That person/family becomes their center of gravity. They aren't like cats in that this extreme loyalty has them often focus on their bonded alpha/parent. Once they establish their place in the "pack", then they are internally directed ^[2] on serving their purpose/functions in the pack (which does often look like independence, but is really just a self-assured interdependence. The few times we went on vacation without our chows, they stayed with family they loved, knew and trusted but they were agitated the entire time we were gone and would spend a great deal of time during their "day" looking for my wife and I. My chows were never lazy. In regards to chows being bossy, they quite often will push to alpha in most social situations and non-related chows in the same home will struggle with the alpha dominance with each other until it is very clear who is who. This requires the chow human-parent to understand their instinct to push and be able to love them firmly and create good boundaries for the home and for outside the home. We were basically forced to train both our chows after introducing the second one into the home. They were both smart and learned quickly once worked with by a great trainer (Lee Mannix) ^[3]. Probably my final thought on chow chows being like cats is that my boy and girl chow both chased cats and deer and everything else (including a red laser)that they could sensed moving. All dogs regardless of breed are unique, so some or all of the above information might be true in some specific context. Chows require unwavering dog enthusiasts as parents, the chow is not for casual or part time parenting. Zerostatetechnologies (talk) 03:09, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Etymology

Hello, how come there isn't anything in the "History" section about this breed got its name? 'Cause in Chinese the name is songshiquan (鬆獅犬) which literally means "loose lion dog". Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 13:46, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There definitely seems to be scope for a section on the name.

--86.155.10.74 (talk) 13:42, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Behavior

The article reads like nonsense breeder-talk.

"When a Chow Chow reaches adolescence it rejects authority from any owner who failed to earn its admiration." Way to anthropomorphize a dog!

I'd love to see input from a veterinary behaviorist. 47.27.102.26 (talk) 20:58, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, I've removed it as it's unsourced fancier nonsense. Traumnovelle (talk) 01:20, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://dogtime.com/dog-breeds/chow-chow#/slide/1

[2] ttp://sourcesofinsight.com/seven-meta-programs-for-understanding-people/

[3] ttp://morefunthandirt.com/about-us/

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-==Pics of Puppy Colors==
+==Not Like Cats==
-Some people who obviously don't know much about chow colors have posted pictures on this site that are mis-characterized.  If people want to add proper photos, do so from this site (which is correct).
+Chows can be independent, but not like cats. Chows are known for bonding to one person/family (extreme loyalty) <ref>http://dogtime.com/dog-breeds/chow-chow#/slide/1</ref>. That person/family becomes their center of gravity.  They aren't like cats in that this extreme loyalty has them often focus on their bonded alpha/parent. Once they establish their place in the "pack", then they are internally directed <ref>http://sourcesofinsight.com/seven-meta-programs-for-understanding-people/</ref> on serving their purpose/functions in the pack (which does often look like independence, but is really just a self-assured '''interdependence'''.  The few times we went on vacation without our chows, they stayed with family they loved, knew and trusted but they were agitated the entire time we were gone and would spend a great deal of time during their "day" looking for my wife and I. My chows were never lazy. In regards to chows being bossy, they quite often will push to alpha in most social situations and non-related chows in the same home will struggle with the alpha dominance with each other until it is very clear who is who. This requires the chow human-parent to understand their instinct to push and be able to love them firmly and create good boundaries for the home and for outside the home.  We were basically forced to train both our chows after introducing the second one into the home.  They were both smart and learned quickly once worked with by a great trainer (Lee Mannix) <ref>http://morefunthandirt.com/about-us/</ref>. Probably my final thought on chow chows being like cats is that my boy and girl chow both chased cats and deer and everything else (including a red laser)that they could sensed moving.  All dogs regardless of breed are unique, so some or all of the above information might be true in some specific context.  Chows require unwavering dog enthusiasts as parents, the chow is not for casual or part time parenting. [[User:Zerostatetechnologies|Zerostatetechnologies]] ([[User talk:Zerostatetechnologies|talk]]) 03:09, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
+{{reflist talk}}
-http://sachowchow.lamygale.net/puppies.htm
+== Etymology ==
-:Those are good pictures of the various colors.  The problem is though getting the website author's permission to use them on Wikipedia, plus most of the photos are watermarked/signed which I don't think would fly on Wikipedia for long once an admin sees them.  If you can get a few photos from the author and get their consent to release them out in the public domain, then we could add as many as you'd like.  --[[User:Brownings|Brownings]] 18:55, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
+Hello, how come there isn't anything in the "History" section about this breed got its name? 'Cause in Chinese the name is songshiquan ({{linktext|鬆獅犬}}) which literally means "loose lion dog". [[User:Shāntián Tàiláng|Shāntián Tàiláng]] ([[User talk:Shāntián Tàiláng|talk]]) 13:46, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
-==Photo choices==
-Here is another picture of the same tongue I just uploaded:
+:There definitely seems to be scope for a section on the name.
-[[Image:Chowtongue2.jpg]]
+:See also https://nationalpurebreddogday.com/chow-chows-name/
+:--[[Special:Contributions/86.155.10.74|86.155.10.74]] ([[User talk:86.155.10.74|talk]]) 13:42, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
+== Behavior ==
-This looks better, but may be disgusting for some people - I don't know. If you like this better, then change the picture in the article. [[User:Ebi|ebi]] 21:59, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
+The article reads like nonsense breeder-talk.
-:Erg, you're right, this one is oddly disquieting.  [[User:Elf|Elf]] | [[User talk:Elf|Talk]] 23:10, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
+"When a Chow Chow reaches adolescence it rejects authority from any owner who failed to earn its '''admiration'''." Way to anthropomorphize a dog!
-You can find a bunch of chow-tongues here: [http://www.mosolyorszag.hu/david/chow/ http://www.mosolyorszag.hu/david/chow/]. They were taken by me and can be used anywhere.<br />
-Select a picture, upload it here, and change the picture of the tongue to that one, if you want to. [[User:Ebi|ebi]] 13:42, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
+I'd love to see input from a veterinary behaviorist. [[Special:Contributions/47.27.102.26|47.27.102.26]] ([[User talk:47.27.102.26|talk]]) 20:58, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
-:I like those that show them face on with the tongue out a bit (like the original one here or the one on your photo page); it looks more natural (like that's the view that most people will relate to).  I don't know how other people feel about it--   [[User:Elf|Elf]] | [[User talk:Elf|Talk]] 16:06, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
+:Agreed, I've removed it as it's unsourced fancier nonsense. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle|talk]]) 01:20, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
-Usually the tongues are called "black," but they look very grey to me. If the article is going to mention the bluish or purplish hues, might it also be more specific to call them grayish/greyish?  Black comes to mind compared to the redish/pinkish color of most animals, but its not. [[User:Cuvtixo|Cuvtixo]] 19:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
-==Latest edits/don't get along with dogs==
-I removed this:  (don't get along with other dogs...) ", as well unless with a mixed breed of Chow Chows" because I'm not clear on whether it's saying that it does get along with Chows & with chow mixed breeds ? And also because I'm not sure from what I've read and heard that the breed of the dog makes any difference. Any references to cite for this?  [[User:Elf|Elf]] | [[User talk:Elf|Talk]] 21:29, 14 February 2006 (UTC)