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Edit warring about the genre

Concus Cretus & Second Skin, would it be possible to discuss the issue here so as to avoid the constant back and forth regarding the genre? Rob van vee 10:03, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Text edits&reaching a consensus

In our opinion the singular line of text which claims-"Josh Barohn was fired for his drug habits"should permanently be deleted from this page.It violates we believe the community's standards on getting along,civility&more so the fundamental guiding principles of Wikipedia.(NPOV)A biased,non neutral point of view is published.The claim is NON-VERIFIABLE&as such the statement is editorialising.NO ORIGINAL RESEARCH is optimally allowed.This claim is neither already recognized or established as consensually valid.The inline citations provided(2)(4)are not valid citations. In either the band members magazine interview:no mention of drug habits or the link to a defunct Myspace band page which actual contains no written text.As such the claim is unsourced,&uncited properly.Information concerning a living person should be treated with a greater sensitivity,care,empathy,concern over their personal/professional wellbeing.The burden of correct evidence lies with the Editor?.Doesn't it.Josh Barohn has contributed his entire life to the extreme music scene&feels this content is libelous,defamatory&slanderous.He suffers from degenerative Multiple Sclerosis&really would like to see some amicable consensus reached. Disabled Peoples Action Collective (talk) 18:34, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed and removed. Rob van vee 19:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Someone even posted that Mike Smith is a rapist or some shit on this page some time ago, those edits should be deleted from the viewing history imo

Derek Boyer

Why doesn’t he have his own page? He’s a legendary death metal bassist. 2600:1700:9DA0:BCC0:F9A5:1975:B3FF:87D (talk) 02:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect

Anyway we can get "Suffo" to redirect here? Deathmetalbarista (talk) 22:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-This idiot Frank "Fahker" Bibber has been claiming to be their drummer for a while now on various forums. The Band have never commented on it, and have played plenty of concerts with Mike Smith since this guy has been claiming to be their drummer.
-The upcoming tour again has Mike Smith on drums and this Bibber guy is now even editing the wiki page.
-Please explain why they are the most plagiarized? The statement is made, with very little backing / explaination. --- Isn't it obvious listening to current Death Metal and listening current musicians speak about Suffocation?
-Its stated in the book Choosing Death: the improbable history of death metal and grindcore.
-Basically it means many bands have based their style around very similar techniques and song writing as them (see half of Unique leaders rooster)
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-"They fused the predominant rhythmic styles of early death metal with complex song structures, and started a new subgenre of death metal known as "brutal death metal." umm, i think there were several bands responsible for the creation of brutal death metal, not just suffocation. could someone clear this up?
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-The article says that they reformed for 2004's Souls to Deny, but it doesn't mention anything about their splitting up beforehand.  Can someone who knows about the band flesh the biography out a bit more to include that stuff?
+== Edit warring about the genre ==
-Could somebody change brutal death metal off and put only death metal and technical? Suffocation has nothing to do with brutal death metal, maybe little style of it but not so much to be in brutal scene, more just death metal  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.114.99.34|88.114.99.34]] ([[User talk:88.114.99.34|talk]]) 20:16, 28 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+{{u|Concus Cretus}} & {{u|Second Skin}}, would it be possible to discuss the issue here so as to avoid the constant back and forth regarding the genre? <b>[[User:Robvanvee|<span style="color:red">Rob</span>]][[User talk:Robvanvee|<span style="color:orange">van</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Robvanvee|<span style="color:green">vee</span>]]</b> 10:03, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
-== Self titled album ==
+== Text edits&reaching a consensus ==
-if you look at the little monster in the band logo on the s/t album you can see that its being pierced from within like the album, maybe it should be added or something for a trivia section?  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/195.13.55.74|195.13.55.74]] ([[User talk:195.13.55.74|talk]]) 12:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+In our opinion the singular line of text which claims-"Josh Barohn was fired for his drug habits"should permanently be deleted from this page.It violates we believe the community's standards on getting along,civility&more so the fundamental guiding principles of Wikipedia.(NPOV)A biased,non neutral point of view is published.The claim is NON-VERIFIABLE&as such the statement is editorialising.NO ORIGINAL RESEARCH is optimally allowed.This claim is neither already recognized or established as consensually valid.The inline citations provided(2)(4)are not valid citations. In either the band members magazine interview:no mention of drug habits or the link to a defunct Myspace band page which actual contains no written text.As such the claim is unsourced,&uncited properly.Information concerning a living person should be treated with a greater sensitivity,care,empathy,concern over their personal/professional wellbeing.The burden of correct evidence lies with the Editor?.Doesn't it.Josh Barohn has contributed his entire life to the extreme music scene&feels this content is libelous,defamatory&slanderous.He suffers from degenerative Multiple Sclerosis&really would like to see some amicable consensus reached. [[User:Disabled Peoples Action Collective|Disabled Peoples Action Collective]] ([[User talk:Disabled Peoples Action Collective|talk]]) 18:34, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
-:Trivia sections are discouraged by Wikipedia, and unless you can find a reliable source stating that it is a direct reference then it constitutes original research. [[User:Blackmetalbaz|Blackmetalbaz]] ([[User talk:Blackmetalbaz|talk]]) 13:23, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
+:Agreed and removed. <b>[[User:Robvanvee|<span style="color:red">Rob</span>]][[User talk:Robvanvee|<span style="color:orange">van</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Robvanvee|<span style="color:green">vee</span>]]</b> 19:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
+::Someone even posted that Mike Smith is a rapist or some shit on this page some time ago, those edits should be deleted from the viewing history imo
-== citations needed ==
+== Derek Boyer ==
+Why doesn’t he have his own page? He’s a legendary death metal bassist. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:9DA0:BCC0:F9A5:1975:B3FF:87D|2600:1700:9DA0:BCC0:F9A5:1975:B3FF:87D]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:9DA0:BCC0:F9A5:1975:B3FF:87D|talk]]) 02:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
-This article is full of very bold claims that lack any kind of supporting evidence. Many of these claims have been marked since 2007--at some point, unless evidence is produced, such statements may be deleted. Furthermore, I would imagine that a band of this magnitude, inventing genres, influencing everyone, etc., would have a bunch of articles written about them. No? [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
-:Citations added. :) [[Special:Contributions/72.240.112.36|72.240.112.36]] ([[User talk:72.240.112.36|talk]]) 04:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
-== 6th album ==
+== Redirect ==
-when is there 6th album suppose to be released in 09? ([[User:Seth4000|Seth4000]] ([[User talk:Seth4000|talk]]) 13:18, 16 March 2009 (UTC)) Seth4000
+Anyway we can get "Suffo" to redirect here? [[User:Deathmetalbarista|Deathmetalbarista]] ([[User talk:Deathmetalbarista|talk]]) 22:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC)