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I'd suggest a bit on ''The Voice'', perhaps the riots in the 80s and modern British rap. [[User:FreeMorpheme|FreeMorpheme]] 19:59, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Early 21st Century - Covid-19 Paragraph ==
I hope this article will not be degenerating into a purely one-sided presentation of black british grievances. Although these are important, it is very important in an article of this kind to put forward all the alternative viewpoints involved. This will allow production of a balanced article with differing perspectives and analysis, which is the intention of a Wikipedia article.
The paragraph on Covid-19 in the 'Early 21st Century' section routinely conflates BAME (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnics) with black people. Much of the information cited refers to the generalised experience of people from non-white ethnicities during Covid-19 rather than the specific experience of Black British people. This is an article on Black British people, not on BAME people in the UK. [[User:Kioj156|Kioj156]] ([[User talk:Kioj156|talk]]) 22:10, 5 June 2023 (UTC)


== England (and Wales) versus UK ==
{{u|Kioj156}} and {{u|EmyRussell}}, thanks for your recent efforts to update and improve the [[Black British people#Social issues|Social issues]] section. However, I think we need to make it clearer in the text that many of the statistics and charts relate to either England or England and Wales only, not the whole of the UK. At present, figures for part of the UK are being presented as if they represent all Black British people in the UK, which is often not the case. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 07:52, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


:Agreed. These stats and charts need clarifying. If not clarified, then removed. [[User:Koppite1|Koppite1]] ([[User talk:Koppite1|talk]]) 22:54, 20 November 2023 (UTC)


== ''however not all were Sub-Saharan African.'' ==
You should sign your stuff if you're posting on a talk page, or people might not take you seriously. Of course, that still might be a danger. You deleted out the phrase ''unwilling visitors to the isles'' assuming it meant 'legitimate' slaves, and cite the Cartwright Decision as proof there were never slaves in Britain. (!) That decision was made before the colonies had even been discovered; as soon as the proto-Empire found out there were rich resources to be plundered any ethical niceties were completely abandoned. You can't deny Britain's involvement in the slave trade, and the notion that no slaves ever came here is laughable, as well as ignoring the evidence that there were plenty of slaves knocking about back then. A quick Google will provide that.
Someone keeps removing this line from the Elizabethan section. I thought it was important to make a distinction as this is a page for black people. An article by the Guardian says two were North African and not black, so thought it should be shown, as black can't be used interchangeably with Moroccans, etc. [[User:Menacinghat|Menacinghat]] ([[User talk:Menacinghat|talk]]) 18:02, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


Article was about the Mary Rose and was linked as of this week [[User:Menacinghat|Menacinghat]] ([[User talk:Menacinghat|talk]]) 18:08, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Anyway, I laud your attempts to provide a balanced view in the article, but I don't think you're quite as disinterested as you might like to be. What's all this 'most Britons', and 'many non-Blacks' stuff? Where's your evidence that most crime against Asians is perpetrated by blacks? If you've got it, great, throw it up here. If not... [[User:FreeMorpheme|FreeMorpheme]] 17:17, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


== New image ==
Well, you never came back, so I've changed your stuff, removing the weasels and hopefully leaving it more balanced. It still needs a lot of additions, there is next to nothing on the actual culture the article references so much. I might tag it as such. Ciao. [[User:FreeMorpheme|FreeMorpheme]] 18:19, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello all, I added an image to this page as part of a short-term paid project to share images of a year of culture that was held in Leeds. There's more on the project [[Wikipedia:GLAM/LEEDS 2023|here]] and more images to make use of [[c:Category:Uploaded_by_Leeds_Culture_Trust|here]]. Many thanks [[User:Lajmmoore|Lajmmoore]] ([[User talk:Lajmmoore|talk]]) 10:43, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


== Racism in article? ==

Hello, I am not an active editor or participant in talks or editing on this site, but in this article I saw mentions of anti-white genocide and I would like a second opinion on those parts of this article as it seems quite racist and conspiratorial. [[User:Night Thrasher|Night Thrasher]] ([[User talk:Night Thrasher|talk]]) 01:40, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Firstly, the notion that no slaves came to Britain is far from laughable. You can try to find an authoritative academic source to back your opinion.
:That was indeed inappropriate content. It was added just a few hours ago, and I undid that set of edits. Thanks for reporting it! [[User:DMacks|DMacks]] ([[User talk:DMacks|talk]]) 03:49, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Secondly, i did not say (a) most crime against Asians is perpertrated by Blacks, or (b) anything involving "most Britons". You should read more carefully.

Thirdly, i'm not sure what this not-so-disinterested stuff is about, but as long as the article is is adequately referenced and includes the relevant viewpoints, i am fine with it.


It was my impression that [[British Asians]] were included along with Afro-Caribbean people in a politicized British conception of the word "Black" (e.g. [[Southall Black Sisters]]) in the 1970s-1980s (somewhat like the way South Asian Americans are part of the larger Asian American movement). This isn't addressed in the article. Any comments? --[[User:Anirvan|Anirvan]] 17:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:10, 27 June 2024

Early 21st Century - Covid-19 Paragraph

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The paragraph on Covid-19 in the 'Early 21st Century' section routinely conflates BAME (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnics) with black people. Much of the information cited refers to the generalised experience of people from non-white ethnicities during Covid-19 rather than the specific experience of Black British people. This is an article on Black British people, not on BAME people in the UK. Kioj156 (talk) 22:10, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

England (and Wales) versus UK

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Kioj156 and EmyRussell, thanks for your recent efforts to update and improve the Social issues section. However, I think we need to make it clearer in the text that many of the statistics and charts relate to either England or England and Wales only, not the whole of the UK. At present, figures for part of the UK are being presented as if they represent all Black British people in the UK, which is often not the case. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:52, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. These stats and charts need clarifying. If not clarified, then removed. Koppite1 (talk) 22:54, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

however not all were Sub-Saharan African.

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Someone keeps removing this line from the Elizabethan section. I thought it was important to make a distinction as this is a page for black people. An article by the Guardian says two were North African and not black, so thought it should be shown, as black can't be used interchangeably with Moroccans, etc. Menacinghat (talk) 18:02, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article was about the Mary Rose and was linked as of this week Menacinghat (talk) 18:08, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New image

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Hello all, I added an image to this page as part of a short-term paid project to share images of a year of culture that was held in Leeds. There's more on the project here and more images to make use of here. Many thanks Lajmmoore (talk) 10:43, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Racism in article?

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Hello, I am not an active editor or participant in talks or editing on this site, but in this article I saw mentions of anti-white genocide and I would like a second opinion on those parts of this article as it seems quite racist and conspiratorial. Night Thrasher (talk) 01:40, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That was indeed inappropriate content. It was added just a few hours ago, and I undid that set of edits. Thanks for reporting it! DMacks (talk) 03:49, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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