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== "President of the Internet" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] == |
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== Quaker == |
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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect [[:President of the Internet]] and has thus listed it [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|for discussion]]. This discussion will occur at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 15#President of the Internet]] until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Plantdrew|Plantdrew]] ([[User talk:Plantdrew|talk]]) 18:51, 15 May 2022 (UTC) |
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== Radiation dose chart: PNG or SVG == |
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There is no reference for Munroe being a Quaker except a footnote in a joke comic. Additionally, engineering is an, um, /unusual/ career for a parent who is a Quaker. This is likely an attempt from Munroe to generate a case of citogenesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_citogenesis_incidents, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reporting, https://xkcd.com/978/) as a small-scale Wikipedia prank. [[User:Xargque|Xargque]] ([[User talk:Xargque|talk]]) 17:04, 9 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:While I appreciate your rationale and agree that it cannot be included at the present time, I would suggest that we [[WP:AGF]] about Munroe's motives here. I am not sure where you get the idea that Quakers should shun engineering education and careers, especially based on a read of [[Quakers in science]] and a working knowledge of their beliefs. Are you perhaps confusing them with Amish or Mennonites? Furthermore, [[Pennsylvania]] is the place where you would expect Quakers to be, albeit only 10,000 in the present day. And I don't honestly see how this particular claim, of all things, should be an attempt to induce citogenesis. I think Munroe has better things to do. And by strict definition, this would not be a case of citogenesis, because the origin of the claim is not Wikipedia, it is a [[WP:RS]]. [[Special:Contributions/2600:8800:1880:91E:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26|2600:8800:1880:91E:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26]] ([[User talk:2600:8800:1880:91E:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26|talk]]) 01:34, 30 May 2018 (UTC) |
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::A little late, but here is a source:[https://slate.com/culture/2019/09/xkcd-randall-munroe-interview-how-to-book-wikipedia.html]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 15:05, 12 September 2019 (UTC) |
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There are two versions of the radiation dose chart: there's [[:File:Radiation Dose Chart by Xkcd.png|the PNG version that Munroe created]], and [[:File:Exposure chart-XKCD.svg|an SVG adaptation created by User:Rama]]. Because this is an article about Munroe, I think it makes the most sense to use Munroe's original PNG version. The SVG adaptation is very nice and perhaps would make sense to use on an article about radiation. However, it is not a direct vectorization of Munroe's work; it has different colors and fonts, and some things are laid out a bit differently. Since this is an article about Munroe, it doesn't make sense to me to use someone else's chart about radiation doses when we could use Munroe's very own chart. |
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==Reassessment of quality== |
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I've reassessed this article's quality and consider it is better than a "Start" and is (at least) a C-class. |
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This article used to have the PNG version, but recently @[[User:Matr4x-404|Matr4x-404]] changed it to the SVG version. I reverted with a short message about why I thought it didn't make sense, but Matr4x-404 changed it back again without any new explanation. Matr4x-404, could you please explain why you prefer the SVG version? Thanks, [[User:IagoQnsi|<span style="color:#a00;">Iago</span><span style="color:#f50;">Qnsi</span>]] ([[User talk:IagoQnsi|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 04:35, 10 October 2022 (UTC) |
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*Start-class standard: "An article that is developing but still quite incomplete. It may or may not cite adequate reliable sources." |
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* C-class standard: "The article is substantial but is still missing important content or contains much irrelevant material. The article should have some references to reliable sources, but may still have significant problems or require substantial cleanup." |
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:I thought you accidentally reverted it, sorry. [[User:Matr4x-404|Matr4x-404]] ([[User talk:Matr4x-404|talk]]) 08:07, 10 October 2022 (UTC), I didn't see the edit summary |
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This article has a number of reliable sources and covers all core information to some extent. This brings it past Start-class. |
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::No worries, thanks for the quick reply! Cheers, [[User:IagoQnsi|<span style="color:#a00;">Iago</span><span style="color:#f50;">Qnsi</span>]] ([[User talk:IagoQnsi|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 23:50, 10 October 2022 (UTC) |
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[[User:HenryCrun15|HenryCrun15]] ([[User talk:HenryCrun15|talk]]) 21:52, 4 December 2019 (UTC) |
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== Influence == |
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Why does the “Influence” section only include the fact that a group of his readers requested that an asteroid be named after Munroe? [[User:SilverTheTerribleMathematician|SilverTheTerribleMathematician]] ([[User talk:SilverTheTerribleMathematician|talk]]) 12:26, 8 December 2022 (UTC) |
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I found the deletion dates for the two citations for Randall Munroe's birth date - https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Randall_Munroe&direction=next&oldid=937919437 and https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Randall_Munroe&direction=prev&oldid=937928182. Why were these sources deleted, and can we find new ones? |
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:{{u|SilverTheTerribleMathematician}}, probably just because no one has gotten around to adding anything else to that section, or they couldn't find [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] for anything else. Is there something else you think belongs there? [[User:Aerin17|Aerin17]] ([[User talk:Aerin17|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aerin17|c]]) 16:28, 8 December 2022 (UTC) |
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[[User:Bookipedia2001|Bookipedia2001]] ([[User talk:Bookipedia2001|talk]]) 17:38, 26 June 2020 (UTC) |
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::Wikipedia vandalism- see "List of Collectables" talk page. [[Special:Contributions/104.187.66.104|104.187.66.104]] ([[User talk:104.187.66.104|talk]]) 01:59, 18 June 2023 (UTC) |
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== "a Renaissance Program" == |
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:Two? I only see one citation in those revisions. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Randall_Munroe&diff=1051353253&oldid=1051236608 A recent edit] (re-)removed this date (which showed up in [https://xkcd.com/2532/ today's xkcd]) and noted in the edit comment that the reference was to a "now vanished, unarchived wiki". So that's probably why it was removed. But! It turns out it ''is'' archived ([https://web.archive.org/web/20171222052104/https://wiki.xkcd.com/wirc/index.php?title=Denizens&diff=prev&oldid=1315 Wayback Machine 2017-12-22]). I'm not saying the date should be re-added on the strength of this citation alone (it's not exactly a paragon of [[WP:RS]]), but at least it's available to us to check. -- [[User:Perey|Perey]] ([[User talk:Perey|talk]]) 05:55, 23 October 2021 (UTC) |
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What the hell is that supposed to mean? |
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== Good Question column == |
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A computer program written in a language called Renaissance? A computer program written several hundred years before computers were invented?[[Special:Contributions/86.190.224.83|86.190.224.83]] ([[User talk:86.190.224.83|talk]]) 21:21, 9 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:According to the article for the school itself: {{tq| It was known as the Renaissance Program early in its history.}} Anyway, it's irrelevant in this article and as you point out, confusing, so I've removed it. [[User:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#066293;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>]] [[User talk:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#738276;">''(talk)''</span>]] 21:46, 9 March 2023 (UTC) |
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Since 2019 (and perhaps a bit earlier), Munroe has had a column in the [[New York Times]] entitled Good Question. The most recent article can be accessed here: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/29/science/randall-munroe-question-popcorn.html Could someone add a bit about this coloumn or perhaps just acknowledge its existence? [[Special:Contributions/72.138.144.38|72.138.144.38]] ([[User talk:72.138.144.38|talk]]) 14:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC) |
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"President of the Internet" listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect President of the Internet and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 15#President of the Internet until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Plantdrew (talk) 18:51, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
Radiation dose chart: PNG or SVG
[edit]There are two versions of the radiation dose chart: there's the PNG version that Munroe created, and an SVG adaptation created by User:Rama. Because this is an article about Munroe, I think it makes the most sense to use Munroe's original PNG version. The SVG adaptation is very nice and perhaps would make sense to use on an article about radiation. However, it is not a direct vectorization of Munroe's work; it has different colors and fonts, and some things are laid out a bit differently. Since this is an article about Munroe, it doesn't make sense to me to use someone else's chart about radiation doses when we could use Munroe's very own chart.
This article used to have the PNG version, but recently @Matr4x-404 changed it to the SVG version. I reverted with a short message about why I thought it didn't make sense, but Matr4x-404 changed it back again without any new explanation. Matr4x-404, could you please explain why you prefer the SVG version? Thanks, IagoQnsi (talk) 04:35, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
- I thought you accidentally reverted it, sorry. Matr4x-404 (talk) 08:07, 10 October 2022 (UTC), I didn't see the edit summary
- No worries, thanks for the quick reply! Cheers, IagoQnsi (talk) 23:50, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Influence
[edit]Why does the “Influence” section only include the fact that a group of his readers requested that an asteroid be named after Munroe? SilverTheTerribleMathematician (talk) 12:26, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- SilverTheTerribleMathematician, probably just because no one has gotten around to adding anything else to that section, or they couldn't find reliable sources for anything else. Is there something else you think belongs there? Aerin17 (t • c) 16:28, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia vandalism- see "List of Collectables" talk page. 104.187.66.104 (talk) 01:59, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
"a Renaissance Program"
[edit]What the hell is that supposed to mean? A computer program written in a language called Renaissance? A computer program written several hundred years before computers were invented?86.190.224.83 (talk) 21:21, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- According to the article for the school itself:
It was known as the Renaissance Program early in its history.
Anyway, it's irrelevant in this article and as you point out, confusing, so I've removed it. Schazjmd (talk) 21:46, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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