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== 'longest running soap ' == |
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This does seem like the sort of claim that realy needs a referance.[[User:Petethewhistle|Petethewhistle]] ([[User talk:Petethewhistle|talk]]) 20:34, 23 October 2016 (UTC) |
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:While I am prepared to believe it, there is still no firm reference to support the claim. This claim was made with no evidence when the article was created in 2002 and has since been modified to "longest running radio serial" but with no citation. The claim can be found in many newspapers, but may have originated from this article or a BBC Press Release. This is a long time to have an uncited claim of a very notable feature of the subject.[[User:Chemical Engineer|Chemical Engineer]] ([[User talk:Chemical Engineer|talk]]) 21:09, 8 January 2019 (UTC) |
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Please clarify why my 2020-12-15 amendment was almost immediately removed with the comment "(Ignorant message removed)". I had simply clarified that TA is longest running by number of episodes, and will become longest running by running time in 2023; what's ignorant about that? (I had also added something re the Nigel plummet, and a punctuation '''''correction''''' - there was '''''no''''' reason to revert the latter, leaving the entry incorrectly punctuated.) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:G6JPG|G6JPG]] ([[User talk:G6JPG#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/G6JPG|contribs]]) 11:43, 3 January 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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⚫ | There was no truth whatsoever in the unsubstantiated [[WP:OR]] that The Archers is the world's longest-running soap opera in any format. ''[[Guiding Light]]'' ran from 1937 to 2009 (72 years), and had 18,262 episodes. I deleted that error from the lede, and also deleted the footnote, which said nothing of the kind, and didn't even say The Archers was the world's longest-running ''radio'' soap opera (which, again, is unsubstantiated [[WP:OR]] or opinion unless cited with a [[WP:RS]]). [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 06:04, 21 April 2014 (UTC) |
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== Theme tune == |
== Theme tune == |
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It says that the theme tune was referenced during the Olympic opening ceremony on August 27, 2012. Olympics opened in July. Should it be July 27, or closing ceremony, or Paralympic opening ceremony? I don't know! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/144.178.255.25|144.178.255.25]] ([[User talk:144.178.255.25|talk]]) 12:27, 10 June 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
It says that the theme tune was referenced during the Olympic opening ceremony on August 27, 2012. Olympics opened in July. Should it be July 27, or closing ceremony, or Paralympic opening ceremony? I don't know! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/144.178.255.25|144.178.255.25]] ([[User talk:144.178.255.25|talk]]) 12:27, 10 June 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I note that CBC started making the Canadian series The Gillans, with a ''very'' similar idea to The Archers, from at least the mid-1940s. I wonder if anyone confirm whether the later series drew conscious inspiration from The Gillans? |
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<sub>Personal interest disclaimer: my father, David Murray, played a role in this programme for some years around 1950.</sub> --[[User:Oolong|Oolong]] ([[User talk:Oolong|talk]]) 22:32, 28 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== Sentence about "The Guiding Light" is unclear, please make clarifications suggested below == |
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The sentence in the opening paragraph "With over 16,700 episodes, it is both the world's longest running radio soap and, since the cancellation of the American soap opera Guiding Light in September 2009, the world's longest running soap opera in any format.[4]" is confusing and needs greater clarification. |
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This should be cited as two separate sentences. The first would state that "The Archers" is the world's longest running radio soap. I'm sure this is understood. |
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The second sentence should state that this makes "The Archers" the world's '''currently''' longest running soap in any format. But it is not the longest-running soap ever produced. |
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For the record "The Guiding Light" is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the longest story ever told. The show premiered on NBC's Red Radio Network January 25, 1937. The show moved to CBS Television on June 29, 1952, where it remained until its cancellation in 2009. It had a total and uninterrupted run of 72 years, and just over 7 months. |
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== Production Team == |
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Ultimately, I suggest you remove all reference to "The Guiding Light" and simply state that "The Archers" is currently the world's longest running soap opera in any format.[[User:Joemalvern|Joemalvern]] ([[User talk:Joemalvern|talk]]) 17:26, 4 July 2012 (UTC) |
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Does anyone agree that there needs to be a separate section listing the Editors of the programme? The Editor information is out of date and these figures make a significant contribution to the show. ([[User:Neneway|Neneway]] ([[User talk:Neneway|talk]]) 16:17, 22 November 2017 (UTC)) |
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:Good idea. Give it a try. Cheers! [[User:Gareth Griffith-Jones|Gareth Griffith‑Jones]] ([[User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones|<small>The Welsh Buzzard</small>]]) 18:40, 22 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::The suggestion sounds good to me - changes in the editorial leadership, and subsequent storyline developments, seem to increasingly feature in the news nowadays. [[User:JezGrove|JezGrove]] ([[User talk:JezGrove|talk]]) 20:26, 22 November 2017 (UTC) |
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== New "long read" article in The Guardian == |
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There's a new "long read" piece in The Guardian which has a lot of interesting background information: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/dec/15/the-archers-weird-genius-peculiarly-english-epic [[User:JezGrove|JezGrove]] ([[User talk:JezGrove|talk]]) 15:14, 15 December 2020 (UTC) |
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[[John Yorke (producer)|John Yorke]] has been editing The Archers since March 2012, and the series has acquired a distinctly different tone under his stewardship, with lots of implausible plotlines involving jeopardy and extreme behaviour. This has attracted considerable criticism from fans who accuse the programme of [[dumbing down]] in a (probably doomed) search for new listeners. Would somebody familiar with the wider Archers world like to document this in a new section? --[[User:Ef80|Ef80]] ([[User talk:Ef80|talk]]) 20:35, 9 July 2012 (UTC) |
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==Fan Clubs== |
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:It is funny that you raise this here - as my Mum had noticed a "dumbing down" of the Archers many years before March 2012. In fact, I think it may have been as long ago as 2004 that my Mum stopped listening to the Archers because she felt it had been dumbed down, and then some years later, on holiday in 2008, my family and I heard a man (who was actually a professional farmer) say that the agricultural editors of the Archers should have been sacked. I think that there is evidence that the programme has been dumbed down over the past few years now. I wonder whether any one feels that it would be worth discussing this theme in the article? [[User:ACEOREVIVED|ACEOREVIVED]] ([[User talk:ACEOREVIVED|talk]]) 14:26, 19 December 2012 (UTC) |
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I am not an experienced Wikipedian so apologies if I am not doing this correctly. |
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A couple of days ago I wrote to Gareth Griffith-Jones asking why he had deleted my entry in the fan clubs section about the Dumteedum fanclub. |
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::I have altered the heading to this section because in March 2012 Yorke became (acting) '''editor''' of The Archers while Vanessa Whitburn took four months leave. Vanessa had planned to use her four months off to travel, and had planned (in March) to return to The Archers last July. <ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thearchers/2012/02/acting_archers_editor.html | title=Acting Archers editor | publisher=BBC | work=http://www.bbc.co.uk | date=29 February 2012 | accessdate=1 March 2012 | last=Davies | first=Keri}}</ref><br />Yes, I do think there has been a change; one that appears to feature the young characters more now than the stories used to when Vanessa Whitburn was Managing Editor. [[User:Rosemary Cheese|Rosemary Cheese]] ([[User talk:Rosemary Cheese|talk]]) 15:13, 19 December 2012 (UTC) |
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You can see my question here </ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gareth_Griffith-Jones#The_Archers_and_Dumteedum</ref> |
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The Archers and Dumteedum |
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As is mentioned above, John Yorke was acting editor for 4 months and during that time stated on a number of occasions (after a first inerview whan he talked about "darker" story lines) that he was simply carrying on the story lines already laid down. If you read the Achers MB the posters there complain continuously about the "dumbing down and "stenderisation" of the The Archers under Vanessa Whitbirn, who has been editor since 1992. However since the fire that killed Grace Archer and Jennifer's illegitimate son we've had sensation aplenty and plenty of silliness so I don't think an encyclopedia entry should go there, unless it wants simply to state tht this view os held by some (how many?) listeners.[[User:PhilomenaO'M|PhilomenaO'M]] ([[User talk:PhilomenaO'M|talk]]) 19:31, 3 January 2013 (UTC) |
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hi I believe you deleted my entry about the Dumteedum Archers fanclub. I'm not a regular Wikipedian, and have recently started listening to the Dumteedum podcast. I am open to the idea that you may be right, but I am not sure. They regularly cite the Academic Archers and are I think as popular, have a web page, years of history and not scammy or anything like that. I've no personal agenda. What would be your criteria for note-worthiness? Happy New Year Richard Lucas posting as Lambrook (talk) 13:07, 2 January 2021 (UTC)Lambrook |
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My original post was |
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:Yes, it was rather a ridiculous claim by those who, not liking the storyline, looked for someone to blame, even though he did not plan it. I've updated the entry a bit - I've not removed Yorke nor the linked criticism (even though the link is to the Daily Express - hardly reliable!) but added something of his rebuttal. [[User:Stephenb|Stephenb]] [[User talk:Stephenb|(Talk)]] 20:58, 3 January 2013 (UTC) |
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"Dum Tee Dum is a weekly podcast [108] about the Archers that features Lucy Freeman and Roifield Brown. Released every Monday it features a comprehensive rundown on the last week's Ambridge action. At the end of 2020 they had podcasted 363 episodes. As well as a webpage [109],</ref>https://dumteedum.com</ref> |
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Dumteedum has a |
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Facebook Group, [110], <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/298673161188564</ref> |
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Twitter feed [111] </ref>https://twitter.com/DumTeeDum</ref> |
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a map of members [112]. </ref>https://dumteedum.com/map</ref> |
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I would add to this discussion that members of the Archers cast regularly appear on Dumteedum specials, they raise money for charity, and that it is as notable as the Academic Archers </ref>http://www.academicarchers.net</ref> fan club which is referenced. |
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== References == |
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Evidence is for example in the number of Twitter Followers. |
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The Academic Archers https://twitter.com/academicarchers has 2,837 followers and the Dumteedum https://twitter.com/DumTeeDum 8,887 Followers |
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I am fully open to the idea that I am wrong, and would like to understand why - if I am. I wanted to write to someone about the way the Dum Tee Dum fan club works, and assumed that I would find a reference to it in Wikipedia. If other fan clubs are mentioned why not this one. Richard Lucas username [[User:Lambrook|Lambrook]] ([[User talk:Lambrook|talk]]) 16:25, 3 January 2021 (UTC)Lambrook <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lambrook|Lambrook]] ([[User talk:Lambrook#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lambrook|contribs]]) 10:42, 3 January 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[[User:Lambrook|Lambrook]] ([[User talk:Lambrook|talk]]) 10:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC)Richard Lucas |
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:I re-instated my post about DumteeDum podcast and webpage after correspondence with Gareth Griffith-Jones here |
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⚫ | There was no truth whatsoever in the unsubstantiated [[WP:OR]] that The Archers is the world's longest-running soap opera in any format. ''[[Guiding Light]]'' ran from 1937 to 2009 (72 years), and had 18,262 episodes. I deleted that error from the lede, and also deleted the footnote, which said nothing of the kind, and didn't even say The Archers was the world's longest-running ''radio'' soap opera (which, again, is unsubstantiated [[WP:OR]] or opinion unless cited with a [[WP:RS]]). [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 06:04, 21 April 2014 (UTC) |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gareth_Griffith-Jones#The_Archers_and_Dumteedum who advised me to do so leaving a note here. DumteeDum has half the number of Facebook members as the Academic Archers, double the number of Twitter followers, and 20,000 or 40,000 downloads. The two groups are 'friends" and support each other. Someone interested in Archers fan clubs would want to know about its existence.If there are arguments against it being here, please state them with the take down. Thank you Richard Lucas, [[User:Lambrook|Lambrook]]10:53, 11 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:Then edit it to make it more complete and up-to-date 🙂 [[User:G6JPG|G6JPG]] ([[User talk:G6JPG|talk]]) 09:13, 17 November 2022 (UTC) |
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== Spile Troshing == |
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Wtf is spile troshing? The links just go to wiktionary entries for "spile" and "troshing", which are completely useless for understanding what it is. [[User:LordApofisu|LordApofisu]] ([[User talk:LordApofisu|talk]]) 19:46, 5 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|LordApofisu}} See [https://twitter.com/keridavies/status/1258760241505865728 this] twitter feed by [[Keri Davies]], one of the series' long-term scriptwriters. On the other hand, perhaps see the book ''Fox Tossing, Octopus Wrestling and Other Forgotten Sports'' by [[Edward Brooke-Hitching]] which reckons to cover it. [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 22:58, 5 December 2022 (UTC) |
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== Synopsis == |
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After reading the 'synopsis', it strikes me that I still have no clue what the show is actually about. This whole section of the article is really more about setting than it is about plot. |
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It'd be nice if someone familiar with the show could fix this. [[User:Desdenova|Desdenova]] ([[User talk:Desdenova|talk]]) 05:59, 10 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Desdenova|Desdenova]] That's quite a challenge, as it covers 70 years of the life of an extended family and their fellow-residents of Ambridge! Its very essence is that it covers a wide range of threads even within any one week - at the moment we have grief over death of a central figure, family tensions over "why didn't she tell us she was dying", her young stepson (result of her husband's past affair) suffering the ending of a lucrative "sugar-mummy" relationship, another young man (previously jailed for drugs offence, heir to stately home) attempting to reconcile his mother and his uncle, drama over rearranging the biscuits in the village shop, a woman (enthusiastic and entitled activist) trying to tell another one (highly qualifed and professional farm manager) how to do her job, a couple hoping that their cute baby twins will make a fortune as models, ... I wouldn't say quite "All human life is there", but it's an approximation. Good point about that "Synopsis" section, I'll have a go but haven't time right now. [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 08:51, 10 February 2023 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for the response. I think even something like "This show is about the every day life and challenges of a family in [City name]" would be a decent solution. Obviously, you could make it a bit more detailed, and maybe even mention some of the examples you gave here. That definitely tells me more about the show than the current 'synopsis' ;) [[User:Desdenova|Desdenova]] ([[User talk:Desdenova|talk]]) 02:06, 10 March 2023 (UTC) |
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==Reception?== |
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I don't see a Reception section. Do/did critics like this radio soap opera? --[[Special:Contributions/2001:1C06:19CA:D600:E939:76CC:9B4A:1BC8|2001:1C06:19CA:D600:E939:76CC:9B4A:1BC8]] ([[User talk:2001:1C06:19CA:D600:E939:76CC:9B4A:1BC8|talk]]) 05:08, 19 May 2023 (UTC) |
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==honour removal?== |
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The 2024-7-2 revision has removed June Spencer's CBE, on the grounds that "postnominals aren't used in the main text". What is the reason for this rule - if it actually ''is'' a rule? If it is, can an exception be made for this venerable person? |
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'longest running soap '
[edit]This does seem like the sort of claim that realy needs a referance.Petethewhistle (talk) 20:34, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
- While I am prepared to believe it, there is still no firm reference to support the claim. This claim was made with no evidence when the article was created in 2002 and has since been modified to "longest running radio serial" but with no citation. The claim can be found in many newspapers, but may have originated from this article or a BBC Press Release. This is a long time to have an uncited claim of a very notable feature of the subject.Chemical Engineer (talk) 21:09, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Please clarify why my 2020-12-15 amendment was almost immediately removed with the comment "(Ignorant message removed)". I had simply clarified that TA is longest running by number of episodes, and will become longest running by running time in 2023; what's ignorant about that? (I had also added something re the Nigel plummet, and a punctuation correction - there was no reason to revert the latter, leaving the entry incorrectly punctuated.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by G6JPG (talk • contribs) 11:43, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Guiding Light ran for 72 years and had 18,262 episodes
[edit]There was no truth whatsoever in the unsubstantiated WP:OR that The Archers is the world's longest-running soap opera in any format. Guiding Light ran from 1937 to 2009 (72 years), and had 18,262 episodes. I deleted that error from the lede, and also deleted the footnote, which said nothing of the kind, and didn't even say The Archers was the world's longest-running radio soap opera (which, again, is unsubstantiated WP:OR or opinion unless cited with a WP:RS). Softlavender (talk) 06:04, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Theme tune
[edit]It says that the theme tune was referenced during the Olympic opening ceremony on August 27, 2012. Olympics opened in July. Should it be July 27, or closing ceremony, or Paralympic opening ceremony? I don't know! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.178.255.25 (talk) 12:27, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
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Production Team
[edit]Does anyone agree that there needs to be a separate section listing the Editors of the programme? The Editor information is out of date and these figures make a significant contribution to the show. (Neneway (talk) 16:17, 22 November 2017 (UTC))
- Good idea. Give it a try. Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 18:40, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
- The suggestion sounds good to me - changes in the editorial leadership, and subsequent storyline developments, seem to increasingly feature in the news nowadays. JezGrove (talk) 20:26, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
New "long read" article in The Guardian
[edit]There's a new "long read" piece in The Guardian which has a lot of interesting background information: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/dec/15/the-archers-weird-genius-peculiarly-english-epic JezGrove (talk) 15:14, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Fan Clubs
[edit]I am not an experienced Wikipedian so apologies if I am not doing this correctly.
A couple of days ago I wrote to Gareth Griffith-Jones asking why he had deleted my entry in the fan clubs section about the Dumteedum fanclub.
You can see my question here </ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gareth_Griffith-Jones#The_Archers_and_Dumteedum</ref>
The Archers and Dumteedum hi I believe you deleted my entry about the Dumteedum Archers fanclub. I'm not a regular Wikipedian, and have recently started listening to the Dumteedum podcast. I am open to the idea that you may be right, but I am not sure. They regularly cite the Academic Archers and are I think as popular, have a web page, years of history and not scammy or anything like that. I've no personal agenda. What would be your criteria for note-worthiness? Happy New Year Richard Lucas posting as Lambrook (talk) 13:07, 2 January 2021 (UTC)Lambrook
My original post was "Dum Tee Dum is a weekly podcast [108] about the Archers that features Lucy Freeman and Roifield Brown. Released every Monday it features a comprehensive rundown on the last week's Ambridge action. At the end of 2020 they had podcasted 363 episodes. As well as a webpage [109],</ref>https://dumteedum.com</ref> Dumteedum has a Facebook Group, [110], [1] Twitter feed [111] </ref>https://twitter.com/DumTeeDum</ref> and a map of members [112]. </ref>https://dumteedum.com/map</ref>
I would add to this discussion that members of the Archers cast regularly appear on Dumteedum specials, they raise money for charity, and that it is as notable as the Academic Archers </ref>http://www.academicarchers.net</ref> fan club which is referenced. Evidence is for example in the number of Twitter Followers. The Academic Archers https://twitter.com/academicarchers has 2,837 followers and the Dumteedum https://twitter.com/DumTeeDum 8,887 Followers
I am fully open to the idea that I am wrong, and would like to understand why - if I am. I wanted to write to someone about the way the Dum Tee Dum fan club works, and assumed that I would find a reference to it in Wikipedia. If other fan clubs are mentioned why not this one. Richard Lucas username Lambrook (talk) 16:25, 3 January 2021 (UTC)Lambrook — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lambrook (talk • contribs) 10:42, 3 January 2021 (UTC) Lambrook (talk) 10:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC)Richard Lucas
- I re-instated my post about DumteeDum podcast and webpage after correspondence with Gareth Griffith-Jones here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gareth_Griffith-Jones#The_Archers_and_Dumteedum who advised me to do so leaving a note here. DumteeDum has half the number of Facebook members as the Academic Archers, double the number of Twitter followers, and 20,000 or 40,000 downloads. The two groups are 'friends" and support each other. Someone interested in Archers fan clubs would want to know about its existence.If there are arguments against it being here, please state them with the take down. Thank you Richard Lucas, Lambrook10:53, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
References
This article is hopelessly incomplete and out of date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:1118:4C01:E025:B8C1:FA1:8EDF (talk) 19:05, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Then edit it to make it more complete and up-to-date 🙂 G6JPG (talk) 09:13, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
Spile Troshing
[edit]Wtf is spile troshing? The links just go to wiktionary entries for "spile" and "troshing", which are completely useless for understanding what it is. LordApofisu (talk) 19:46, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- @LordApofisu: See this twitter feed by Keri Davies, one of the series' long-term scriptwriters. On the other hand, perhaps see the book Fox Tossing, Octopus Wrestling and Other Forgotten Sports by Edward Brooke-Hitching which reckons to cover it. PamD 22:58, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Synopsis
[edit]After reading the 'synopsis', it strikes me that I still have no clue what the show is actually about. This whole section of the article is really more about setting than it is about plot.
It'd be nice if someone familiar with the show could fix this. Desdenova (talk) 05:59, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Desdenova That's quite a challenge, as it covers 70 years of the life of an extended family and their fellow-residents of Ambridge! Its very essence is that it covers a wide range of threads even within any one week - at the moment we have grief over death of a central figure, family tensions over "why didn't she tell us she was dying", her young stepson (result of her husband's past affair) suffering the ending of a lucrative "sugar-mummy" relationship, another young man (previously jailed for drugs offence, heir to stately home) attempting to reconcile his mother and his uncle, drama over rearranging the biscuits in the village shop, a woman (enthusiastic and entitled activist) trying to tell another one (highly qualifed and professional farm manager) how to do her job, a couple hoping that their cute baby twins will make a fortune as models, ... I wouldn't say quite "All human life is there", but it's an approximation. Good point about that "Synopsis" section, I'll have a go but haven't time right now. PamD 08:51, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. I think even something like "This show is about the every day life and challenges of a family in [City name]" would be a decent solution. Obviously, you could make it a bit more detailed, and maybe even mention some of the examples you gave here. That definitely tells me more about the show than the current 'synopsis' ;) Desdenova (talk) 02:06, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Reception?
[edit]I don't see a Reception section. Do/did critics like this radio soap opera? --2001:1C06:19CA:D600:E939:76CC:9B4A:1BC8 (talk) 05:08, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
honour removal?
[edit]The 2024-7-2 revision has removed June Spencer's CBE, on the grounds that "postnominals aren't used in the main text". What is the reason for this rule - if it actually is a rule? If it is, can an exception be made for this venerable person? G6JPG (talk) 23:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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