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== Requested move 15 May 2024 ==
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[[:NBC]] → {{no redirect|National Broadcasting Company}} – National Broadcasting Company is its legal name. If American Broadcasting Company is the title for ABC, I see why not we can change the article's name.&#32;[[User:Merv Mat|Merv Mat]] ([[User talk:Merv Mat|talk]]) 15:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC) <small>''This is a contested technical request'' ([[Special:Permalink/1223985796|permalink]]). [[User:Remsense|<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F;color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]][[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid #1E816F;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">诉</span>]] 15:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)</small>
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[[:NBC]] → {{no redirect|National Broadcasting Company}} – National Broadcasting Company is its legal name. If American Broadcasting Company is the title for ABC, I see why not we can change the article's name.&#32;[[User:Merv Mat|Merv Mat]] ([[User talk:Merv Mat|talk]]) 15:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC) <small>''This is a contested technical request'' ([[Special:Permalink/1223986948#footer|permalink]]). [[User:Remsense|<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F;color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]][[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid #1E816F;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">诉</span>]] 15:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)</small>
:I know, but changing its name make much more sense. [[User:Merv Mat|Merv Mat]] ([[User talk:Merv Mat|talk]]) 15:39, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
::It does not, per our [[WP:naming conventions|naming conventions]]. [[User:Remsense|<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F;color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]][[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid #1E816F;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">诉</span>]] 15:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC)


:Because ABC is famously ambiguous. See [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Remsense|Remsense]] ([[User talk:Remsense#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Remsense|contribs]]) 15:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xsign -->
Because ABC is famously ambiguous. See [[WP:COMMONNAME]].
::I know, but changing its name make much more sense. [[User:Merv Mat|<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:red;color:yellow">'''Merv Mat'''</span>]][[User talk:Merv Mat|<span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid red;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">Talk</span>]] 15:39, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
:::It does not, per our [[WP:naming conventions|naming conventions]]. [[User:Remsense|<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F;color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]][[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid #1E816F;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">诉</span>]] 15:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
::::I understand. [[User:Merv Mat|<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:red;color:yellow">'''Merv Mat'''</span>]][[User talk:Merv Mat|<span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid red;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">Talk</span>]] 15:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

*'''Oppose''' The current title is decidedly the [[WP:COMMONNAME]], including by the network itself. The only reason ABC is spelled out is for [[WP:NATDIS|disambiguation purposes]]. There is zero reason to move this article. [[User:Oknazevad|oknazevad]] ([[User talk:Oknazevad|talk]]) 17:09, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per [https://www.britannica.com/money/National-Broadcasting-Co-Inc Britannica]. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 17:53, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
*:Just because Britannica calls NBC "National Broadcasting Company" doesn't mean we move the article from "NBC" to "National Broadcasting Company". ''[[User:CosXZ|Cos]]'' ''<sup>([[User talk:CosXZ|X]] + [[Special:Contributions/CosXZ|Z]])</sup>'' 20:26, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.|talk]]) 03:06, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. ''[[User:CosXZ|Cos]]'' ''<sup>([[User talk:CosXZ|X]] + [[Special:Contributions/CosXZ|Z]])</sup>'' 20:26, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
*'''Speedy Oppose''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. [[User:Esolo5002|Esolo5002]] ([[User talk:Esolo5002|talk]]) 22:10, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
*:'''Oppose''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]] <sup>[[User:WiinterU|<span style="color: blue">Wii</span>]]</sup><small>[[Special:Contribs/WiinterU|<span style="color: purple">nter</span>]]</small><sub>[[User talk:WiinterU|<span style="color: turquoise">U</span>]]</sub> 23:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
*'''Comment''': I agree "NBC" is the [[WP:COMMONNAME]], but I do have a question other whether it's the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]? My gut feeling is that it is, but I'm not sure. '''[[User:Sceptre|Sceptre]]''' ([[User talk:Sceptre|talk]]) 21:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]] [[User:Turtletennisfogwheat|Turtletennisfogwheat]] ([[User talk:Turtletennisfogwheat|talk]]) 06:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 04:21, 3 July 2024

'movie and radio'

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'I have anxiety' about a recent wording change in the article from 'television and radio network' to 'movie and radio network'. Should that not be 'television, movie, and radio network'? MaynardClark (talk) 13:46, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It was just plain incorrect and has been fully reverted. NBC is not a movie studio. oknazevad (talk) 14:58, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

President Trump controversy--do we need an RfC for this?

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I have tried to add referenced content about President Trump's long history with NBC. Today he called out "NBC bosses" over the Morning Joe controversy. User:Oknazevad has removed it twice. Yes, Morning Joe is on MSNBC, but that is owned by NBC, which is why the president talked about NBC. So it should appear here. And the section is not just about this one incident, but a series of remarks about President Trump made by NBC bosses over the years. I don't want to edit-war over this, so do we need to start an RfC? If we're going to have a section about controversies, I would think the one about the President of the United States should not be deleted. But happy to reach consensus here if we need it.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:26, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My point is simply the MSNBC article is the proper place for this, not here. Yes they're sister companies, but they're not the same one. And, frankly, Trump can say any thing, it doesn't change facts. I deal in actual facts, not alternative ones. oknazevad (talk) 21:07, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The referenced content is about more than Morning Joe as I said before. It has several paragraphs about "a series of remarks about President Trump made by NBC bosses over the years.". You apparently disagree about NBC but your personal opinion is irrelevant; we relay content from reliable third-party sources here.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:20, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The individual in question is now the President of the United States. That would make this referenced content extremely notable and noteworthy in context of the history of the subject of this article. Sagecandor (talk) 21:31, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion

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Criticisms and controversies

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The Horatio Sanz lawsuit should be added to the criticisms and controversies section as multiple NBC security guards/employees are mentioned enabling the entry/abuse of an underage girl, as well as NBC being listed as a defendant.

[1]https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22187093/jane-doe-amended-complaint-fallon-sanz-morgan.pdf] MisfitBlitz (talk) 19:10, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will never watch your news anymore. You did not provide trumps speech. The is called sencership. 2600:1700:8B88:4810:80C1:8E25:B52C:2AB0 (talk) 03:57, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Me & Mrs. C has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 18 § Me & Mrs. C until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 May 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 18:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


NBCNational Broadcasting Company – National Broadcasting Company is its legal name. If American Broadcasting Company is the title for ABC, I see why not we can change the article's name. Merv Mat (talk) 15:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Remsense 15:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because ABC is famously ambiguous. See WP:COMMONNAME. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Remsense (talkcontribs) 15:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know, but changing its name make much more sense. Merv MatTalk 15:39, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It does not, per our naming conventions. Remsense 15:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand. Merv MatTalk 15:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.