Talk:Dalip Singh Saund

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Added Links

I added links to Sikh personalities and Ramgarhia's. Thanks --Sikh-History 08:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Sikh (?)

[The following was C&P'd from my talk page. Also, you can look at Ikjyotsingh's talk page.--S.Rich]

First, it is not "Shikh", but Sikh. Shikh refers to a name of Arab descent, which is entirely different than Sikh.

Also, according to Tisdale's article: "Although Saund removed his turban, a Sikh symbol of religious devotion, soon after he immigrated to the U.S., he remained connected with the Sikh organization in central California that had provided housing for him upon his arrival at Berkeley." This comment along with the Indian High court decision proves what I have been saying as correct. You cannot nitpick quotes that suit your predisposition.

Second, what I quoted was not any "religious law" or interpretation of it. It is a law based on an Indian High Court (Commonwealth Law) decision, and is the worldwide accepted legal definition of a Sikh. Therefore, I have reverted your edit.

Thanks. Ikjyot Singh Kohli

Ikjyotsingh (talk) 14:01, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

The issue (and edits) concern the reliable sources which support the particular story. Not your reading of worldwide accepted legal definitions, The existing sources support the info about Saud's Sikh affiliation. Wikipedia follows what the sources provide. We do not take informatioon from other sources and apply original research or synthesis. If or when you find material that says Saund himself was Patit, then you can add it. I will eit he article to de-emphasise the Sikh aspect, but please do not add Patit info without proviing a supporting source--S. Rich (talk) 14:36, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Fine, and this seems like a fair compromise, although, I think you are slightly overusing the reliable sources idea. If 2+2 = 4, then it is 4. I shouldn't have to find a research article to prove it. Anyways, the article you mentioned, Tisdale's article, clearly states the Saund removed his turban. The original article and your original comments did not mention this fact at all. Ikjyotsingh (talk) 22:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Glad to work something out. Please keep in mind that truth is not what Wikipedia strives for. Rather, Verification is the driving factor. As far as research goes, look at WP:BURDEN. If you want to say Saund was x, y, or z, you are the one who must come up with the source that says so; and by source we mean a reliable source. This is fundamental.--S. Rich (talk) 23:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

1962 election

"In May 1962, Saund suffered a severe stroke which left him unable to speak or walk without assistance. He was defeated for reelection in November 1962 by Republican Patrick Martin by a 56% to 44% margin."

This line in the article doesn't match up with these 2 articles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California%27s_29th_congressional_district https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California's_38th_congressional_district

--Gary123 (talk) 23:11, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Asian Religions in America

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 September 2022 and 9 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Natanxoza (article contribs). Peer reviewers: SoloMunn, Coop444.

— Assignment last updated by Ziegenbalg66 (talk) 00:38, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Biography and sources

I noticed that information about Saund's family is missing - not much about his parents or children is written, or what happened to them after his death, so it would be helpful to readers to have more information about his personal life. I would make two separate sections - one about his personal life and family (with photos), and the other one about his professional work (politics, books, and images from newspapers, conferences and events that would make the Wiki page more appealing). A separate paragraph/section within professional work would be dedicated to the Immigration Act of 1965 because this would show how extraordinary it was to become a congressman as a person from India during this time. Also, his first-person accounts from Congressman from India would be useful because this would show his view on being a congressman, and would give useful insights into the struggles of Sikh community during this period.

Some of the sources I planned to use to achieve this are as follows:

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As mentioned, collections, articles, images, and texts that I plan to use to edit the Wiki page come from scholarly journals and archives.

Natanxoza (talk) 20:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

If anyone wants to comment on these changes, please let me know on this Talk Page or on my Talk Page. Thank you!

Natanxoza (talk) 20:29, 31 October 2022 (UTC)