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'''Katherine Edgecumbe''' or '''Edgecombe''' (died 1553) was an English aristocrat and courtier.
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[[File:Cotehele Courtyard - Delicate Hues - panoramio.jpg|thumb|right|[[Cotehele]], Katherine Edgecumbe's home in Cornwall]]
[[File:Cotehele Courtyard - Delicate Hues - panoramio.jpg|thumb|right|[[Cotehele]], Katherine Edgcumbe's home in Cornwall]]
She was a daughter of John St John of [[Bletsoe Castle|Bletsoe]] and Sybil, a daughter of Rhys ap Morgan. She was the brother of [[John St. John (MP for Bedfordshire)|John St. John]] who died in 1558.


'''Katherine Edgecombe''' (died 1553) was an English aristocrat and courtier.
She first married [[Gruffydd ap Rhys ap Thomas]] (died 1521). She was appointed to wait on [[Catherine of Aragon]] in October 1501. They served Catherine of Aragon and [[Arthur, Prince of Wales|Prince Arthur]] at [[Ludlow Castle]].<ref>Philip Yorke, ''Miscellaneous State Papers'', vol. 1 (London, 1778), p. 3.</ref> Their son, [[Rhys ap Gruffydd (rebel)|Rhys ap Gruffydd]] was executed for treason at the [[Tower of London]] in 1531.


==Background==
Katherine married secondly Piers or [[Peter Edgecumbe (died 1539)|Peter Edgecumbe]] (died 1539) of [[Cotehele]] in [[Cornwall]] in 1532. A carved panel from a bed tester still at Cotehele, depicting the [[Fall of man|Expulsion of Adam and Eve]], is sometimes said to have been hers.<ref>Catherine Belsey, ''Shakespeare and the Loss of Eden: The Construction of Family Values in Early Modern Culture'' (Macmillan, 1999), p. 68.</ref>
She was born Katherine St. John, a daughter of John St. John of [[Bletsoe Castle|Bletsoe]] and Sybil, a daughter or cousin of Rhys ap Morgan. She was the sister of [[John St. John (MP for Bedfordshire)|John St. John]] who died in 1558.


==Career==
The chronicle writer [[John Stow]] included a story about her at the court of [[Henry VIII of England|Henry VIII]]. In June 1540, [[Eleanor Manners, Countess of Rutland|Elinor Rutland]], [[Jane Boleyn, Viscountess Rochford|Lady Jane Rochford]], and "Lady Katherine Egecombe" were talkng with [[Anne of Cleves]] at [[Westminster Palace|Westminster]]. They asked her if she was pregnant, and she said no. Katherine Edgecumbe asked if she was sure, since she slept with Henry every night.<ref>John Stow, ''Annales, or a General Chronicle of England'' (London: Richard Meighen, 1631), p. 578.</ref> The women's conversation dealt with the issue of whether the royal marriage had been [[Consummation|consummated]].<ref>Elizabeth Norton, ''Anne of Cleves: Henry VIII's Discarded Bride'' (Stroud: Amberley, 2010), p. 7: [[George W. Bernard]], ''The King's Reformation: Henry VIII and the Remaking of the English Church'' (Yale, 2005), p. 549.</ref>
She first married [[Gruffydd ap Rhys ap Thomas]]. She was appointed to wait on [[Catherine of Aragon]] in October 1501. They served Catherine of Aragon and [[Arthur, Prince of Wales|Prince Arthur]] at [[Ludlow Castle]].<ref>Philip Yorke, ''Miscellaneous State Papers'', vol. 1 (London, 1778), p. 3.</ref> Gruffydd ap Rhys died in 1521 and was buried near Prince Arthur at [[Worcester Cathedral]]. Their son, [[Rhys ap Gruffydd (rebel)|Rhys ap Gruffydd]] was executed for treason at the [[Tower of London]] in 1531.


Katherine married secondly Piers or [[Peter Edgecumbe (died 1539)|Peter Edgcumbe]] (died August 1539) of [[Cotehele]] in [[Cornwall]] in 1532{{Citation needed|date=September 2022|reason=according to the article about Peter, they were married by 1525}}. A carved panel from a bed tester still at Cotehele, depicting the [[Fall of man|Expulsion of Adam and Eve]], is sometimes said to have been hers.<ref>Catherine Belsey, ''Shakespeare and the Loss of Eden: The Construction of Family Values in Early Modern Culture'' (Macmillan, 1999), p. 68.</ref>
In July 1543 [[Henry VIII of England|Henry VIII]] wanted English servants to join the household of the infant [[Mary, Queen of Scots]], who he hoped would marry his son [[Edward VI of England|Prince Edward]]. The diplomat [[Ralph Sadler]] recommended his friend the "Lady Edongcomb", now a widow. Sadler wrote that his own wife, Ellen Mitchell, who was pregnant, was not suitable because she was unused to life at court, and an older women and experienced courtier like Lady Edgcumbe would be better:<blockquote>And, in my poor opinion, it were the more necessary, that she, whom your majesty would have to be resident about the young queen's person here, were a grave and discreet woman, of good years and experience; and the better if she were a widow, as I think the lady Edongcomb were a meet woman for such purpose, and many others, whereof I doubt not your majesty hath choice enough<ref>Arthur Clifford, [https://archive.org/details/statepaperslette01sadluoft/page/230/mode/2up?view=theater ''Sadler State Papers'', vol. 1 (Edinburgh, 1809), p. 230]</ref></blockquote>


She was a lady in waiting to [[Anne of Cleves]] in 1540,<ref>[[George W. Bernard]], ''The King's Reformation: Henry VIII and the Remaking of the English Church'' (Yale, 2005), p. 549.</ref> as a lady of the privy chamber with Lady Rutland and Lady Browne.<ref>[[Maria Hayward]], ''Dress at the Court of Henry VIII'' (Maney, 2007), 307.</ref> The chronicle writer [[John Stow]] included a story about her at the court of [[Henry VIII of England|Henry VIII]]. In June 1540, [[Eleanor Manners, Countess of Rutland|Elinor Rutland]], [[Jane Boleyn, Viscountess Rochford|Lady Jane Rochford]], and "Lady Katherine Egecombe" were talking with [[Anne of Cleves]] at [[Westminster Palace|Westminster]]. They asked her if she was pregnant, and she said no. Katherine Edgcumbe asked if she was sure, since she slept with Henry every night.<ref>John Stow, ''Annales, or a General Chronicle of England'' (London: Richard Meighen, 1631), p. 578.</ref> The three women made and signed a formal deposition or statement about this conversation,<ref>Nadia T. van Pelt, ''Intercultural Explorations and the Court of Henry VIII'' (Oxford, 2024), p. 166: John Strype, [https://archive.org/details/ecclesiastical01stry/page/314/mode/2up ''Ecclesiastical Memorials'', vol. 1 (London, 1721), pp. 314-5]</ref> which was relevant to the issue of whether the royal marriage had been [[Consummation|consummated]].<ref>''HMC Calendar of Manuscripts of the Marquess of Salisbury'', vol. 1 (London, 1883), p. 15 no. 67/13: ''Letters & Papers Henry VIII'', 15 (London, 1896), p. 424 no. 850/14: Elizabeth Norton, ''Anne of Cleves: Henry VIII's Discarded Bride'' (Stroud: Amberley, 2010), p. 7: [[George W. Bernard]], ''The King's Reformation: Henry VIII and the Remaking of the English Church'' (Yale, 2005), p. 549.</ref>
Katherine Edgecumbe made her will at Cotehele on 4 December 1553. She left household goods, some of which had belonged to Griffith ap Rhys, to her daughter Mary Luttrell at [[Dunster Castle]]. She left the rest of her goods and her Cornish tin mines to the care of her executors. Mary Luttrell was the wife of the soldier [[John Luttrell (soldier)|John Luttrell]].<ref>Nicholas Harris Nicolas, ''Testamenta Vetusta: Illustrations from Wills'', vol. 1 (London, 1826), p. 739.</ref>

In July 1543 [[Henry VIII of England|Henry VIII]] wanted English servants to join the household of the infant [[Mary, Queen of Scots]], who he hoped would marry his son [[Edward VI of England|Prince Edward]].<ref>''State Papers Henry the Eighth'', part 4 cont., vol. 5 (London, 1836), pp. 301-2.</ref> The diplomat [[Ralph Sadler]] recommended his friend the "Lady Edongcomb", now a widow. Sadler wrote that his own wife, Ellen Mitchell, who was pregnant, was not suitable because she was unused to life at court, and an older woman and experienced courtier like Lady Edgcumbe would be better:<blockquote>And, in my poor opinion, it were the more necessary, that she, whom your majesty would have to be resident about the young queen's person here, were a grave and discreet woman, of good years and experience; and the better if she were a widow, as I think the lady Edongcomb were a meet woman for such purpose, and many others, whereof I doubt not your majesty hath choice enough<ref>Arthur Clifford, [https://archive.org/details/statepaperslette01sadluoft/page/230/mode/2up?view=theater ''Sadler State Papers'', vol. 1 (Edinburgh, 1809), p. 230]</ref></blockquote>

Katherine Edgcumbe did not go to Scotland, as the marriage plans negotiated by Henry VIII as the [[Treaty of Greenwich]] came to nothing, and instead he launched the war now known as the [[Rough Wooing]].<ref>[[Marcus Merriman]], ''The Rough Wooings'' (East Linton: Tuckwell, 2000), pp. 111–136.</ref> In October 1543, Henry gave her a pension or annuity.<ref>[[John Payne Collier]], ''Trevelyan Papers'' (Camden Society, 1857), pp. 182-3.</ref>

Katherine Edgcumbe made her will at Cotehele on 4 December 1553. She left household goods, some of which had belonged to Griffith ap Rhys, to her daughter Mary Luttrell at [[Dunster Castle]]. These goods were given to her by her husband Peter Edgcumbe's will. She left the rest of her goods and her Cornish tin mines to the care of her executors. Mary Luttrell was the wife of the soldier [[John Luttrell (soldier)|John Luttrell]].<ref>Nicholas Harris Nicolas, ''Testamenta Vetusta: Illustrations from Wills'', vol. 1 (London, 1826), pp. 649, 739.</ref>


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Cotehele, Katherine Edgcumbe's home in Cornwall

Katherine Edgecombe (died 1553) was an English aristocrat and courtier.

Background

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She was born Katherine St. John, a daughter of John St. John of Bletsoe and Sybil, a daughter or cousin of Rhys ap Morgan. She was the sister of John St. John who died in 1558.

Career

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She first married Gruffydd ap Rhys ap Thomas. She was appointed to wait on Catherine of Aragon in October 1501. They served Catherine of Aragon and Prince Arthur at Ludlow Castle.[1] Gruffydd ap Rhys died in 1521 and was buried near Prince Arthur at Worcester Cathedral. Their son, Rhys ap Gruffydd was executed for treason at the Tower of London in 1531.

Katherine married secondly Piers or Peter Edgcumbe (died August 1539) of Cotehele in Cornwall in 1532[citation needed]. A carved panel from a bed tester still at Cotehele, depicting the Expulsion of Adam and Eve, is sometimes said to have been hers.[2]

She was a lady in waiting to Anne of Cleves in 1540,[3] as a lady of the privy chamber with Lady Rutland and Lady Browne.[4] The chronicle writer John Stow included a story about her at the court of Henry VIII. In June 1540, Elinor Rutland, Lady Jane Rochford, and "Lady Katherine Egecombe" were talking with Anne of Cleves at Westminster. They asked her if she was pregnant, and she said no. Katherine Edgcumbe asked if she was sure, since she slept with Henry every night.[5] The three women made and signed a formal deposition or statement about this conversation,[6] which was relevant to the issue of whether the royal marriage had been consummated.[7]

In July 1543 Henry VIII wanted English servants to join the household of the infant Mary, Queen of Scots, who he hoped would marry his son Prince Edward.[8] The diplomat Ralph Sadler recommended his friend the "Lady Edongcomb", now a widow. Sadler wrote that his own wife, Ellen Mitchell, who was pregnant, was not suitable because she was unused to life at court, and an older woman and experienced courtier like Lady Edgcumbe would be better:

And, in my poor opinion, it were the more necessary, that she, whom your majesty would have to be resident about the young queen's person here, were a grave and discreet woman, of good years and experience; and the better if she were a widow, as I think the lady Edongcomb were a meet woman for such purpose, and many others, whereof I doubt not your majesty hath choice enough[9]

Katherine Edgcumbe did not go to Scotland, as the marriage plans negotiated by Henry VIII as the Treaty of Greenwich came to nothing, and instead he launched the war now known as the Rough Wooing.[10] In October 1543, Henry gave her a pension or annuity.[11]

Katherine Edgcumbe made her will at Cotehele on 4 December 1553. She left household goods, some of which had belonged to Griffith ap Rhys, to her daughter Mary Luttrell at Dunster Castle. These goods were given to her by her husband Peter Edgcumbe's will. She left the rest of her goods and her Cornish tin mines to the care of her executors. Mary Luttrell was the wife of the soldier John Luttrell.[12]

References

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  1. ^ Philip Yorke, Miscellaneous State Papers, vol. 1 (London, 1778), p. 3.
  2. ^ Catherine Belsey, Shakespeare and the Loss of Eden: The Construction of Family Values in Early Modern Culture (Macmillan, 1999), p. 68.
  3. ^ George W. Bernard, The King's Reformation: Henry VIII and the Remaking of the English Church (Yale, 2005), p. 549.
  4. ^ Maria Hayward, Dress at the Court of Henry VIII (Maney, 2007), 307.
  5. ^ John Stow, Annales, or a General Chronicle of England (London: Richard Meighen, 1631), p. 578.
  6. ^ Nadia T. van Pelt, Intercultural Explorations and the Court of Henry VIII (Oxford, 2024), p. 166: John Strype, Ecclesiastical Memorials, vol. 1 (London, 1721), pp. 314-5
  7. ^ HMC Calendar of Manuscripts of the Marquess of Salisbury, vol. 1 (London, 1883), p. 15 no. 67/13: Letters & Papers Henry VIII, 15 (London, 1896), p. 424 no. 850/14: Elizabeth Norton, Anne of Cleves: Henry VIII's Discarded Bride (Stroud: Amberley, 2010), p. 7: George W. Bernard, The King's Reformation: Henry VIII and the Remaking of the English Church (Yale, 2005), p. 549.
  8. ^ State Papers Henry the Eighth, part 4 cont., vol. 5 (London, 1836), pp. 301-2.
  9. ^ Arthur Clifford, Sadler State Papers, vol. 1 (Edinburgh, 1809), p. 230
  10. ^ Marcus Merriman, The Rough Wooings (East Linton: Tuckwell, 2000), pp. 111–136.
  11. ^ John Payne Collier, Trevelyan Papers (Camden Society, 1857), pp. 182-3.
  12. ^ Nicholas Harris Nicolas, Testamenta Vetusta: Illustrations from Wills, vol. 1 (London, 1826), pp. 649, 739.