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<li>From [[January 2015 Mazraat Amal incident]]: {{cite news |title=Report: Six Iranians killed in Israeli strike in Syria, including Revolutionary Guards general |url=http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Report-Six-Iranians-killed-in-Israeli-strike-in-Syria-including-Revolutionary-Guards-general-388210 |newspaper=[[Jerusalem Post]] |date=19 January 2015}}</li> |
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== B'Tselem acknowledged "challenges IDF faces" etc. == |
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I have good faith reverted this [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Operation_Pillar_of_Defense&diff=673897012&oldid=673892513 edit]. The source cited is simply a newspaper analysis/interpretation of B'Tselem's report. This kind of language does not appear in the B'Tselem report. There is no basis to include such a statement here, where the bulk of B'Tselem's analysis is in the opposite direction. There is no language of acknowledging challenges IDF faced in Hamas mixing with civilians in the B'Tselem report that I could find. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]][[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 15:42, 31 July 2015 (UTC) |
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== Title violates NPOV rules == |
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In looking at some of the articles on the various Gaza-Israeli conflicts, it's obvious that this article violates NPOV rules by adopting the Israeli operational codename for the war. It's obvious that if this article were called by the Palestinian operational name, it would also violate the NPOV rules. As per the other articles, it should be renamed. Because this might be argued, I figured I'd post to the talk page first before making this change. It would require some alterations in the article body as well to recognize and equally place the two names given to the war by opposing sides. [[User:Tarek|Tarek]] ([[User talk:Tarek|talk]]) 08:06, 12 May 2018 (UTC) |
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I have just added archive links to {{plural:12|one external link|12 external links}} on [[Operation Pillar of Defense]]. Please take a moment to review [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=706995604 my edit]. If necessary, add {{tlx|cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{tlx|nobots|deny{{=}}InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes: |
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:Its [[WP:COMMONNAME]] and have proper move discussion if you want to rename--[[user:Shrike|Shrike]] ([[User talk:Shrike|talk]]) 09:02, 12 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Remove the comma in the first paragraph after 'killing' so that the sentence is grammatically correct and reads 'killing of' rather than 'killing, of' [[User:Nickyschlobs|Nickyschlobs]] ([[User talk:Nickyschlobs|talk]]) 07:20, 23 June 2018 (UTC) |
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There is a typo involving the but it s typed ths. |
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: Corrected. Thanks [[User:Cannolis|Cannolis]] ([[User talk:Cannolis|talk]]) 02:33, 30 March 2022 (UTC) |
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== Duplicate information at end of Background section == |
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"Major General [[Mohammad Ali Jafari]] stated, "We haven't sent any weapons to Gaza because it is under blockade, but we are honoured to announce that we gave them the technology of how to make Fajr-5 missiles." [[Ali Larijani]] said Iran was "honored" to help Gaza's Hamas with "material and military aspects"." |
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"However, the commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, Major General Mohammad Ali Jafari stated "We haven't sent any weapons to Gaza because it is under blockade, but we are honoured to announce that we gave them the technology of how to make Fajr-5 missiles." Meanwhile, Ali Larijani said Iran was "honored" to help Gaza's Hamas with "material and military aspects"." |
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== Confusing sequence of events == |
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Can the text be changed here so that these sentences are only mentioned once? [[User:Youngrubby|Youngrubby]] ([[User talk:Youngrubby|talk]]) 19:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC) |
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The prelude has problems: It jumps around in time, makeing the following of the sequence of events confusing. I have altered the order of the text and the wording so as to move logically forward in time as the various contributing events unfolded. Also made it clear who did the killing of Jabiri. [[User:Erictheenquirer|Erictheenquirer]] ([[User talk:Erictheenquirer|talk]]) 10:08, 13 August 2017 (UTC) |
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Title violates NPOV rules
[edit]Hello all,
In looking at some of the articles on the various Gaza-Israeli conflicts, it's obvious that this article violates NPOV rules by adopting the Israeli operational codename for the war. It's obvious that if this article were called by the Palestinian operational name, it would also violate the NPOV rules. As per the other articles, it should be renamed. Because this might be argued, I figured I'd post to the talk page first before making this change. It would require some alterations in the article body as well to recognize and equally place the two names given to the war by opposing sides. Tarek (talk) 08:06, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- Its WP:COMMONNAME and have proper move discussion if you want to rename--Shrike (talk) 09:02, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
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Remove the comma in the first paragraph after 'killing' so that the sentence is grammatically correct and reads 'killing of' rather than 'killing, of' Nickyschlobs (talk) 07:20, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]There is a typo involving the but it s typed ths.
- Corrected. Thanks Cannolis (talk) 02:33, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Duplicate information at end of Background section
[edit]The end of the Background section seems to contain some duplicate information. The last two sections contain the following sentences:
"Major General Mohammad Ali Jafari stated, "We haven't sent any weapons to Gaza because it is under blockade, but we are honoured to announce that we gave them the technology of how to make Fajr-5 missiles." Ali Larijani said Iran was "honored" to help Gaza's Hamas with "material and military aspects"."
"However, the commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, Major General Mohammad Ali Jafari stated "We haven't sent any weapons to Gaza because it is under blockade, but we are honoured to announce that we gave them the technology of how to make Fajr-5 missiles." Meanwhile, Ali Larijani said Iran was "honored" to help Gaza's Hamas with "material and military aspects"."
Can the text be changed here so that these sentences are only mentioned once? Youngrubby (talk) 19:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
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