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== Boundaries ==
== Ferry usage? ==


Both [[BC Ferries]] and [[Washington State Ferries]] are huge ferry systems (not to mention the [[Alaska Marine Highway]]), and while I don't know of any similar system in Oregon I think the fact that the coastal section relies so heavily on ferries merits a mention in the Transit subsection. [[User:Spellingbee91|Spellingbee91]] ([[User talk:Spellingbee91|talk]]) 16:26, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
The summary says that Cascadia is loosely bounded in the east by the Cascade Mountain Range, but then immediately says the most common conception includes Idaho. These are contradictory statements. [[User:Antigravity711|Antigravity711]] ([[User talk:Antigravity711|talk]]) 04:18, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
:Good point , the ''Coast Starlight'' Amtrak route is listed, but not a single ferry route. Some individual [[Washington State Ferries#Routes|WSF routes]] exceed the Amtrak ridership by at least an order of magnitude: the Bainbridge Island-Seattle for example has millions of riders. ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Bri|Bri]]</span> ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 20:49, 23 March 2023 (UTC)


== Is the Greater Vancouver area more appropriately called the Greater Vancouver BC area? ==
BC should not be mentioned first, it is too much disputed. Canadians don't call BC "Pacific Northwest", as it is in the far SOUTHWEST COAST corner of thier country. some kind of faction wants to include BC in "cascadia" but the canadians don't call it any of the above. Why do people insist on placing BC FIRST on the list in the intro then? since it is the most disputed and least accepted.
[[User:Meat Eating Orchid|Meat Eating Orchid]] ([[User talk:Meat Eating Orchid|talk]]) 08:24, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
:Don't have a strong opinion on the order but people in BC definitely understand that "the Pacific Northwest" includes them. I was born and raised in Vancouver: it's not a term that gives people pause. —[[User:Joeyconnick|Joeyconnick]] ([[User talk:Joeyconnick|talk]]) 16:11, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
: People in Ontario possibly don't ever call BC the Pacific Northwest, but, yes, people in BC uniformly understand it as part of the Pacific Northwest. It is neither disputed nor controversial here. The only people who seem bothered by it are Eastern Canadians who see it as an affront to Canadian nationalism and then appoint themselves as speaking for "the Canadians," without stopping to ask people actually from here what we think. The term, anyway, comes from what the area was called prior to it being part of either country. [[Special:Contributions/2001:569:7BB7:D200:444F:1855:3E73:EAD|2001:569:7BB7:D200:444F:1855:3E73:EAD]] ([[User talk:2001:569:7BB7:D200:444F:1855:3E73:EAD|talk]]) 03:51, 12 December 2019 (UTC)


The PNW has a small city, Vancouver WA, directly north of Portland, OR, which is often considered part of the Greater Portland area. Directly north of the northern WA state border is the Greater Vancouver area, which includes Vancouver, British Columbia. In the US part of the PNW, the Canadian Vancouver is typically called Vancouver BC, while the American Vancouver is simply called Vancouver. However, I do not know if this is common convention in Canada. If it is, the Greater Vancouver area may be more appropriately called the Greater Vancouver BC area to avoid ambiguity as to which Vancouver hold geographic significance to the PNW. Thoughts? [[User:Professor Whumpus|Professor Whumpus]] ([[User talk:Professor Whumpus|talk]]) 20:09, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
I wouldn't say there is consensus in BC about the term (I'm born and raised there too). To me it's an American term, that I know is often applied to us as well. But, like this article, we seem to be at the periphery of it.


== Vancouver vs Vancouver ==
== Clarify odd designation? ==


As someone from outside North America, I was surprised to learn that the Pacific Northwest designation is used for what is actually the Pacific Northeast ( the northeast coast of the Pacific Ocean). I understand the designation makes sense from a local continental USA perspective and I am not saying the intro is not clear. But I think it would be good to point out this contradiction at the beginning of the article to make it more obvious for those to arrive from outside the USA. [[Special:Contributions/69.172.153.217|69.172.153.217]] ([[User talk:69.172.153.217|talk]]) 00:58, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
i am a life long oregon/washington resident. for as long as i can remember, we have NEVER called Vancouver, BC, "Vancouver". If we say Vancouver, we normally are talking about Vancouver WA. We always call Vancouver, BC, just that: Vancouver BC. This can get confusing. I imagine BC people always call Vanc BC, just Vancouver. And they probably call Vancouver WA, Vancouver WA. Just one more of many differences between the PNW people North/ South of the border.
this whole article seems to be somewhat artificially blending us all together, but we are extremely different from each other. Nothing but the general geography actually has any commonality, in terms of US/Canada. And maybe the english we speak. it ends there. Our perspectves are quite different.
[[User:Meat Eating Orchid|Meat Eating Orchid]] ([[User talk:Meat Eating Orchid|talk]]) 07:43, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
why would anyone remove the above comment i made? it is every bit as valid as any other on here. it isn't part of the article, it is DISCUSSION. so i reverted it back onto here. Leave it up. It gives American NW perspective.
[[User:Meat Eating Orchid|Meat Eating Orchid]] ([[User talk:Meat Eating Orchid|talk]]) 19:12, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

:I think almost by definition, this article is going to focus on the links & similarities since it's about the area as a whole, although if you want to include additional points of division you're of course free to do so. On your narrow point, I didn't even realize the question you were asking from the title - from a BC perspective, "Vancouver" is of course ambiguous in meaning, because without qualification it's not clear if that means City of Vancouver (600k) or Metro Vancouver (2.5m) - but no, without a ", WA" qualifier, it would never mean "175k in suburban Portland". Similarly, Americans from different coasts would envisage a different "Portland" (Oregon or Maine) when said unqualified, and residents of most States would see a different "Lancaster" or "Springfield". --[[User:Brislian|Brislian]] ([[User talk:Brislian|talk]]) 21:18, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
::If there are changes to the article to be proposed, this is the place to do it. But this is [[Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#FORUM|not a forum]] for general discussion. As articles are written for a worldwide audience there has been a general consensus developed in many articles to refer to [[Vancouver]], [[Canada]] simply as Vancouver. On [[Talk:Vancouver|the talk page]] for that article, there is a link to [[User:Mkdw/Vancouver why no disambiguation|an essay which explains why "Vancouver" is not a disambiguation page]]. That may provide some context to your question.--[[User:Darryl Kerrigan|Darryl Kerrigan]] ([[User talk:Darryl Kerrigan|talk]]) 21:45, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

== Megacity map ==

The article is illustrated by a "megacity map" which is undated and doesn't state what the source of the data used for colorizing is -- it appears to be sub-county level data for both U.S. and Canada. This ought to be updated. [[User:Bri.public|Bri.public]] ([[User talk:Bri.public|talk]]) 16:19, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 11:50, 10 July 2024

Ferry usage?

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Both BC Ferries and Washington State Ferries are huge ferry systems (not to mention the Alaska Marine Highway), and while I don't know of any similar system in Oregon I think the fact that the coastal section relies so heavily on ferries merits a mention in the Transit subsection. Spellingbee91 (talk) 16:26, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good point , the Coast Starlight Amtrak route is listed, but not a single ferry route. Some individual WSF routes exceed the Amtrak ridership by at least an order of magnitude: the Bainbridge Island-Seattle for example has millions of riders. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:49, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is the Greater Vancouver area more appropriately called the Greater Vancouver BC area?

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The PNW has a small city, Vancouver WA, directly north of Portland, OR, which is often considered part of the Greater Portland area. Directly north of the northern WA state border is the Greater Vancouver area, which includes Vancouver, British Columbia. In the US part of the PNW, the Canadian Vancouver is typically called Vancouver BC, while the American Vancouver is simply called Vancouver. However, I do not know if this is common convention in Canada. If it is, the Greater Vancouver area may be more appropriately called the Greater Vancouver BC area to avoid ambiguity as to which Vancouver hold geographic significance to the PNW. Thoughts? Professor Whumpus (talk) 20:09, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Clarify odd designation?

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As someone from outside North America, I was surprised to learn that the Pacific Northwest designation is used for what is actually the Pacific Northeast ( the northeast coast of the Pacific Ocean). I understand the designation makes sense from a local continental USA perspective and I am not saying the intro is not clear. But I think it would be good to point out this contradiction at the beginning of the article to make it more obvious for those to arrive from outside the USA. 69.172.153.217 (talk) 00:58, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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