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== Putin obsession / war propaganda ==
== Non lethal weapon .com on citizens ==


I am a 61 year old disabled Pa resident who has been targeted by non lethal microwave weapons for 12 years. I have tried many avenues to make this stop but I am not a government employee, no Havana Syndrome, so it continuex. Life is HELL. Please do a story to make it stop and make the public aware of what does happen. They have trashed my car, poisoned my tree with yellow catipillars, follow me and zap me everywhere I go. It is a living help and I have no recourse. The police have 302ed me when I reached out for help, medical co pays have broken me. I need help desperately. I have never hurt anyone or fought ..I would love to talk to you . Please help me. [[Special:Contributions/71.253.64.231|71.253.64.231]] ([[User talk:71.253.64.231|talk]]) 13:37, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
No word in the article about the Putin paranoia this newspaper/site has? Just about every decision by Trump which doesn't feed the military industrial complex for once (leaving Syria, possible peace treaty with North Korea etc.) just must be a Putin plot. This "consensus" is also shared by other news outlets, but at least the comment sections of those sites are somewhat balanced, while the majority of WaPo reader commenters are hillariously hawkish, too (there are even "bomb Moscow" comments).


:It says at the top of this page: This page is not a forum for general discussion about The Washington Post. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about The Washington Post at the Reference desk. [[User:Vmelkon|Vmelkon]] ([[User talk:Vmelkon|talk]]) 18:53, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
Weird times to be living in.
:They are neo-cold war times, what do you expect?:S I'd be careful about mentioning Putin/Russia too, as mainstream Western media has always found a way to spin a typical outlet of theirs into one [https://bricsmagazine.com/en/articles/straddling-journalism-and-propaganda disseminating]/[https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/08/the-russians-drop-a-propaganda-bomb-with-their-washington-post-ad-supplement.html compromised by] "Russian propaganda". [[User:Donkey Hot-day|Donkey Hot-day]] ([[User talk:Donkey Hot-day|talk]]) 11:17, 22 May 2021 (UTC)


== Using The Washington Post as a source and cutting unnecessary bulk ==
== Trump vs. WaPo worth a mention? ==


This article on The Washington Post uses the Post as its own source '''no fewer than 68 times'''. That is unheard of. We must find other sources for the statements of fact to which the Post is sourced, and if an independent source cannot be found, the content should be deleted unless the content is critical the for readers' understanding of the subject. Because of the nature of being one of the leading mainstream news sources in America, there will always be more and more content that can be added because news will always be happening at the Post. Wikipedia policy dictates that Wikipedia articles should be a "''summary''" of the subject and not a detailed accounting. ([[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not|WP:NOTEVERYTHING]] "''A Wikipedia article should not be a complete exposition of all possible details, but a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject''." Also according to Wikipedia policy, we don't use facts just because we know them. ([[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not|WP:NOTEVERYTHING]] "''Information should not be included in this encyclopedia solely because it is true or useful."'' This article needs to be greatly reduced. I am going to make these bold edits and reductions. I just wanted all those who are interested in this article to understand why I am doing so. I invite thoughtful editors to join me in this endeavor. It is overwhelming. All the best. [[User:MarydaleEd|MarydaleEd]] ([[User talk:MarydaleEd|talk]]) 02:58, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
Does anypony here think the fact that the current President of the United States has repeatedly accused Jeff Bezos of interfering in WaPo's editorial decisions, so much so that it has become a significant part of his political campaign, seems worthy of a mention? Despite essentially running a political war against WaPo, the President's attacks on the article and his accusations of Bezos interference do not appear even once in the article. This phenomenon has been covered by numerous reliable sources, not to mention in hundreds of Tweets by the President. [[User:TricksterWolf|TricksterWolf]] ([[User talk:TricksterWolf|talk]]) 17:27, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
:If you have the WP:RS, sure why not? Tweets are still off limits though. [[User:Horse Eye Jack|Horse Eye Jack]] ([[User talk:Horse Eye Jack|talk]]) 20:43, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
:Suggestion for updating the photo of The Washington Post Wikipedia page to a photo of President Trump holds-up Washington Post paper titled Trump acquitted? --[[User:Rogerx|roger]] ([[User talk:Rogerx|talk]]) 21:58, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
::Why Trump '''vs.''' WaPo? Both share the same value: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/blackface-incident-at-washington-post-cartoonists-2018-halloween-party-resurfaces-amid-protests/2020/06/17/66f09bde-af2e-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html#comments-wrapper Vengeance is supreme]. --[[User:Ftzg|Ftzg]] ([[User talk:Ftzg|talk]]) 20:04, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Ftzg}} Please note [[WP:TALK]] - this discussion page is for coordinating work on the article, not for ranting about its subject. Regards, [[User:HaeB|HaeB]] ([[User talk:HaeB|talk]]) 00:47, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
::::More than 150 authors say in [https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-justice-and-open-debate/ Harper's Letter: "The forces of illiberalism are gaining strength throughout the world and have a powerful ally in Donald Trump,.."] or as a non-author like me would say: Trump and WaPo - two sides of the same coin.---[[User:Ftzg|Ftzg]] ([[User talk:Ftzg|talk]]) 20:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


== Why is this publication not classified as liberal alignment when the new york post is labeled as conservated? ==
== RfC about ''WaPo'' abbreviation in the first sentence ==
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Should the abbreviation ''WaPo'' be placed in the first sentence? ''Note'': Restarted on March 27, 2020. [[User:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#CD8C95">'''K'''yle'''J'''oan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#8B6969">talk</span>]]</sup> 04:38, 27 March 2020 (UTC) [[User:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#CD8C95">'''K'''yle'''J'''oan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#8B6969">talk</span>]]</sup> 05:20, 24 February 2020 (UTC)


This publication is one of the most left leaning major pubs in the country [[Special:Contributions/2A10:8012:7:6098:710A:204E:58C4:A254|2A10:8012:7:6098:710A:204E:58C4:A254]] ([[User talk:2A10:8012:7:6098:710A:204E:58C4:A254|talk]]) 14:58, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
*'''No'''. Follow [[MOS:LEADSENTENCE]] guidance to avoid that. The first sentence should tell the nonspecialist reader what, or who, the subject is. Unless the subject were so totally used by the subject and known by an alternate naming that it is the article title, I think that indicates alternate namings are likely later on, if at all. In this case the Washington Post weight in Google is about 10 times the casual nickname, so I'd think perhaps a lower mention -- although I've no idea what article content could say about the nickname. Cheers [[User:Markbassett|Markbassett]] ([[User talk:Markbassett|talk]]) 00:39, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
* '''No.''' Washingtonians might use it, but it's not that common to be way up there in the lead. Even in the article we'd have to have a source that it is Notable.[[User:BeenAroundAWhile|BeenAroundAWhile]] ([[User talk:BeenAroundAWhile|talk]]) 03:48, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
* <s>'''No.''' I lived in Baltimore and got over to DC frequently and it was rarely used, which this was about 20 years ago. I watch cspan, msnbc, cnn who frequently have wash post people and they never use it. That said, it wouldn't be a life-changer if it were included, but I don't think it should. [[User:ImUglyButPrettyUgly|ImUglyButPrettyUgly]] ([[User talk:ImUglyButPrettyUgly|talk]]) 10:36, 10 March 2020 (UTC)</s>
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*'''No'''. nicknames should generally not be included in the lead unless, as Markbassett noted, that a large number of people know the nickname but not the proper name. [[User:Horse Eye Jack|Horse Eye Jack]] ([[User talk:Horse Eye Jack|talk]]) 15:52, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
*'''Yes as proposer''' per [[MOS:BOLDSYN]], which states: {{tq|Only the first occurrence of the title and significant alternative titles (which should usually also redirect to the article) are placed in bold. . . }}. Since the [[WAPO]] disambiguation page lists ''The Washington Post'' as a possible redirect, it is perfectly appropriate to annotate the abbreviation ''WaPo'' in the lead. Furthermore, numerous generally reliable sources per [[WP:RSP]] has referenced the newspaper by its abbreviated name, including [https://www.politico.com/story/2009/07/wapo-cancels-lobbyist-event-024441 ''Politico''], [https://apnews.com/023c6bd3128e8965d5b94608af8a8f4d The Associated Press], [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/01/trumps-approval-rating-among-republicans-falls-wapo-abc-news-poll/4120897002/ ''USA Today''], [https://www.thedailybeast.com/mike-pompeo-repeatedly-urged-trump-to-take-aggressive-action-against-iran-wapo ''The Daily Beast''], [https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/02/official-chinese-propaganda-now-online-from-the-wapo/70690/ ''The Atlantic''], and [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/484169-trump-has-directly-sought-to-block-publication-of-boltons-book-wapo ''The Hill'']. [[User:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#CD8C95">'''K'''yle'''J'''oan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#8B6969">talk</span>]]</sup> 16:49, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
*'''No''' per {{u|Markbassett}}. No one disputes that ''WaPo'' is used as an abbreviation for the ''Post'', but it just doesn't have enough prominence as a nickname to including it in the lead sentence. I'd have no objection to including it somewhere in the body if we can find a way to work it in, or perhaps even lower in the lead section. [[User:Sdkb|Sdkb]] ([[User talk:Sdkb|talk]]) 06:09, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I checked ''[[The New York Times]]'', and it doesn't have ''NYT'' discussed as an abbreviation except in hatnotes. That seems like something we'd include before ''WaPo''. Has anyone checked to see whether there's been discussion over there, or whether ''NYT'' has appeared in previous revisions of that article? [[User:Sdkb|Sdkb]] ([[User talk:Sdkb|talk]]) 06:09, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
**The '''''NYT''''' abbreviation had been [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=The_New_York_Times&type=revision&diff=497140163&oldid=497140051 part of the first sentence since as early as June 2012] until it was [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=The_New_York_Times&type=revision&diff=929876444&oldid=929183935 removed in December 2019 without consensus]. [[User:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#CD8C95">'''K'''yle'''J'''oan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#8B6969">talk</span>]]</sup> 09:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' why restart it? We appear to have already arrived at a consensus. [[User:Horse Eye Jack|Horse Eye Jack]] ([[User talk:Horse Eye Jack|talk]]) 04:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
**I'd personally like more comments on the discussion, especially since multiple editors stated a lower mention of the abbreviation in the article would be better. I hope that's OK! [[User:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#CD8C95">'''K'''yle'''J'''oan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#8B6969">talk</span>]]</sup> 04:38, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
***That's not within the scope of the RfC, you should not have extended this just because the opinions ran against you. This extension should be reverted and the Rfc closed as consensus to omit. [[User:Zaathras|Zaathras]] ([[User talk:Zaathras|talk]]) 11:59, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
****<s>I don't personally care that {{tq|the options ran against}} me; I simply wanted more comments. If the extension only generates more responses that don't agree with my view, then that's fine too. Is there any harm in extending? [[User:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#CD8C95">'''K'''yle'''J'''oan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#8B6969">talk</span>]]</sup> 13:11, 27 March 2020 (UTC)</s>
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== Left Wing? ==
== Political alignment ==


Per [[WP:BRD]], I've removed an [[Special:Diff/1144933746|addition]] to the [[WP:Manual of Style/Lead section|lead]] made by {{u|The Hammering Hammer}} claiming WaPo {{tq|is considered to hold principally liberal positions}}, as [[WP:UNDUE|I don't believe the claim was appropriate for inclusion in the lead section]]. IMO such a statement would be more suitable for the "[[The_Washington_Post#Political_stance|political stance]]" section. The addition was [https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4462444 sourced] to a research guide published on the [[University of Michigan]]'s website. Given the gravity of the claim, I don't think this source is sufficient to support it. If such an addition were to be made, I would expect it to be backed up by multiple citations to high-quality sources, such as meta-analyses published in politically independent peer-reviewed journals. I also think a wording similar to {{tq|has been characterized as}} would be more suitable than {{tq|is considered}}. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:SamX|SamX]]&nbsp;&#91;[[User talk:SamX#top|talk]]&nbsp;'''·'''&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/SamX|contribs]]&#93; 18:29, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
This seems like a left wing paper to me, and Allsides media agrees (https://www.allsides.com/news-source/washington-post-media-bias). Just wanted to run it by everyone to see what you guys think. [[User:Wikieditor575|Wikieditor575]] ([[User talk:Wikieditor575|talk]]) 18:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
:"Seems to me" is [[WP:OR|original research]], which doesn't fly on Wikipedia, and [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_278#Is_Allsides.com_a_reliable_source%3F|allsides.com]] is not a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] for Wikipedia content. [[User:Just plain Bill|Just plain Bill]] ([[User talk:Just plain Bill|talk]]) 20:53, 18 May 2020 (UTC)


== Missing : basic info box ==
"AllSides uses a patented bias rating system to classify news sources as left, center, or right leaning. Components of the rating system include crowd-sourcing, surveys, internal research, and use of third party sources such as Wikipedia and research conducted by Groseclose and Milyo at UCLA."<ref>{{cite web |title="Fake News," Lies and Propaganda: How to Sort Fact from Fiction |url=https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4462444 |website=University of Michigan Library}}</ref> AllSides is more reliable than Wikipedia.


Hello to all 🙂 This page is a big searching work, very exhaustive. Bravo!
A study done by Pew Research looked at the political leanings of news organizations' audiences--which is a good indicator of the political bias of the organization--finding WaPo as left leaning. WaPo's audience leaned left, in approximately the same position as Buzzfeed.
But... I am surprised that there is no info box?

I talk about a box, at the top of the page, with website link, beginning date, city, nation (even if it's obvious) name of founder, etc. Thanks! 😉 [[User:Isabeau777|Isabeau777]] ([[User talk:Isabeau777|talk]]) 23:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
{{reflist-talk}}

== Getting rid of overview section ==

The [[The Washington Post#Overview|overview section]] has too broad a scope and duplicates the lead (which is [[MOS:LEAD|supposed to be]] an overview already). It ought to be removed, with its content moved to other sections. Anyone want to help out with this? <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 04:28, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

== this should probably be covered in controversies. ==

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/media/the-story-was-a-hoax-donald-trump-hits-out-after-stunning-washington-post-retraction/news-story/4316de0c552800a040bc59332cd79964
[[User:Transcendent Presence|Transcendent Presence]] ([[User talk:Transcendent Presence|talk]]) 00:01, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

== '''''The Post''''' ==

The alternative name '''the ''Post''''' doesn't seem to conform to:
* we use our own capitalisation and italics rules, not those of the source.
** MOS caps/naming
** MOS italics in this way:

As example: '''''[[The Guardian]]''''', so my interpretation is this should be either '''''The Post''''' (done here [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=The_Washington_Post&diff=1051607098&oldid=1051375094]). If the "the" isn't part of the alternative name, then the ''''' Post''''' (presumably incorrect). My edit undone [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=The_Washington_Post&diff=1051607098&oldid=1051375094] by [[User:Coolcaesar]], so proposing again here. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Widefox|Widefox]]</span>; [[User talk:Widefox|talk]]</span> 14:03, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
:Ping original author [[User:Piotr Jr.]]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Widefox|Widefox]]</span>; [[User talk:Widefox|talk]]</span> 16:48, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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Non lethal weapon .com on citizens

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I am a 61 year old disabled Pa resident who has been targeted by non lethal microwave weapons for 12 years. I have tried many avenues to make this stop but I am not a government employee, no Havana Syndrome, so it continuex. Life is HELL. Please do a story to make it stop and make the public aware of what does happen. They have trashed my car, poisoned my tree with yellow catipillars, follow me and zap me everywhere I go. It is a living help and I have no recourse. The police have 302ed me when I reached out for help, medical co pays have broken me. I need help desperately. I have never hurt anyone or fought ..I would love to talk to you . Please help me. 71.253.64.231 (talk) 13:37, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It says at the top of this page: This page is not a forum for general discussion about The Washington Post. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about The Washington Post at the Reference desk. Vmelkon (talk) 18:53, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Using The Washington Post as a source and cutting unnecessary bulk

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This article on The Washington Post uses the Post as its own source no fewer than 68 times. That is unheard of. We must find other sources for the statements of fact to which the Post is sourced, and if an independent source cannot be found, the content should be deleted unless the content is critical the for readers' understanding of the subject. Because of the nature of being one of the leading mainstream news sources in America, there will always be more and more content that can be added because news will always be happening at the Post. Wikipedia policy dictates that Wikipedia articles should be a "summary" of the subject and not a detailed accounting. (WP:NOTEVERYTHING "A Wikipedia article should not be a complete exposition of all possible details, but a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject." Also according to Wikipedia policy, we don't use facts just because we know them. (WP:NOTEVERYTHING "Information should not be included in this encyclopedia solely because it is true or useful." This article needs to be greatly reduced. I am going to make these bold edits and reductions. I just wanted all those who are interested in this article to understand why I am doing so. I invite thoughtful editors to join me in this endeavor. It is overwhelming. All the best. MarydaleEd (talk) 02:58, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this publication not classified as liberal alignment when the new york post is labeled as conservated?

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This publication is one of the most left leaning major pubs in the country 2A10:8012:7:6098:710A:204E:58C4:A254 (talk) 14:58, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Political alignment

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Per WP:BRD, I've removed an addition to the lead made by The Hammering Hammer claiming WaPo is considered to hold principally liberal positions, as I don't believe the claim was appropriate for inclusion in the lead section. IMO such a statement would be more suitable for the "political stance" section. The addition was sourced to a research guide published on the University of Michigan's website. Given the gravity of the claim, I don't think this source is sufficient to support it. If such an addition were to be made, I would expect it to be backed up by multiple citations to high-quality sources, such as meta-analyses published in politically independent peer-reviewed journals. I also think a wording similar to has been characterized as would be more suitable than is considered. — SamX [talk · contribs] 18:29, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Missing : basic info box

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Hello to all 🙂 This page is a big searching work, very exhaustive. Bravo! But... I am surprised that there is no info box? I talk about a box, at the top of the page, with website link, beginning date, city, nation (even if it's obvious) name of founder, etc. Thanks! 😉 Isabeau777 (talk) 23:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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