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== Boycott calls == |
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No attention to Taylor Swift’s Tweets calling for a boycott of the ceremony and all broadcasters airing the ceremony after her “clear and obvious exclusion” from the ceremony despite “the best picture ever made in All Too Well, Dr. Swift’s direction in said film AND Dr. Swift’s gripping portrayal In Amsterdam that will redefine drama instruction for generations?” [[User:Choppinbroc|Choppinbroc]] ([[User talk:Choppinbroc|talk]]) 14:08, 24 January 2023 (UTC) |
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XD [[User:Espngeek|Espngeek]] ([[User talk:Espngeek|talk]]) 19:17, 24 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:lol [[Special:Contributions/142.67.134.132|142.67.134.132]] ([[User talk:142.67.134.132|talk]]) 05:05, 25 January 2023 (UTC) |
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::I don't think people care about non POC people using their privilege to win [[User:Wentwort12|Wentwort12]] ([[User talk:Wentwort12|talk]]) 08:17, 16 March 2023 (UTC) |
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::OP is a serial block evader who has been smearing Taylor Swift as a Diva for quite some time. This account was blocked already. |
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Feel free to ignore them. [[User:Crboyer|$chnauzer]] 14:11, 16 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== Merle Oberon == |
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Merle Oberon not Michelle Yeoh is the first Asian Actress to be nominated for Best Actress back in 1936. Please remove misinformation on Yeoh [[Special:Contributions/2600:8800:5809:4100:54E5:6AF2:3390:756D|2600:8800:5809:4100:54E5:6AF2:3390:756D]] ([[User talk:2600:8800:5809:4100:54E5:6AF2:3390:756D|talk]]) 16:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC) |
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As it has been repeatedly stated, Oberon hid her Asian heritage throughout her life. Yeoh does not.[[User:Crboyer|$chnauzer]] 14:13, 16 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== When does the award ceremony take place? == |
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Okay, it is on March 12, 2023. |
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That does not tell us what time it begins. Why leave out that information? |
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== John Williams' age == |
== John Williams' age == |
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:Nevermind, now that the article isn't locked anymore I've added it myself. - [[Special:Contributions/87.58.119.203|87.58.119.203]] ([[User talk:87.58.119.203|talk]]) 21:01, 23 March 2023 (UTC) |
:Nevermind, now that the article isn't locked anymore I've added it myself. - [[Special:Contributions/87.58.119.203|87.58.119.203]] ([[User talk:87.58.119.203|talk]]) 21:01, 23 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== Formatting issue == |
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On my display there is a huge gap between the "Films with multiple nominations and awards" sub-section heading and the subsequent tables. Is this happening for anybody else? [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ([[User talk:Betty Logan|talk]]) 09:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Indopug}} Thankyou for [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=95th_Academy_Awards&diff=prev&oldid=1145458135 this]. [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ([[User talk:Betty Logan|talk]]) 01:48, 20 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== The end of prestige fare? == |
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The article saying EEAAO's wins signal the "end of the popularity and relevance of theatrically released prestige fare" feels presumptuous about future ceremonies. Can we adjust that to be more factual? [[User:Paststrange|Paststrange]] ([[User talk:Paststrange|talk]]) 11:38, 13 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:Here's [https://www.vulture.com/2023/03/why-everything-everywhere-all-at-once-won-best-picture.html a better article] that discusses this situation. [[User:HM2021|HM2021]] ([[User talk:HM2021|talk]]) 00:16, 14 March 2023 (UTC) |
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::That says nothing like what you claim. It just asserts that 2022 was a "down" ''year'' for "prestige cinema", not that the entire concept of "prestige cinema" is already dead and buried for all time. We've been through times like this before, when "unexpected" films won Best Picture (''[[Midnight Cowboy]]'', anyone?) without somehow destroying the entire established concept of what was an "Oscar film". If five years from now Best Picture has been won exclusively by sequels to and imitations of ''EEAAO'', then maybe you'll have a point — but one year doesn't singlehandedly clinch it, and the sources you're showing aren't claiming that it does. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 00:38, 14 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:I’ve had almost the exact same discussion [[Talk:Prestige picture|here]]. [[User:Spectrallights|Spectrallights]] ([[User talk:Spectrallights|talk]]) 00:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:: I agree with the opinion that such a statement is premature crystal ball-gazing and at worst original research or personal opinion. There's also the fact definitions are evolving; up until a few years ago Netflix productions would have been considered made-for-TV movies and ineligible for Oscars, but now they are, notably this year with All Quiet. Next year's Oscars could be all-prestige movies. It's along the same lines as those who predicted there would be no Oscars presentation at all in 2023 because of ratings, COVID hanging on and "the slap". People did make such predictions and they were wrong. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] ([[User talk:23skidoo|talk]]) 20:25, 15 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== A24 "top five" == |
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The article states, "A24 won a total of nine awards, more than any other studio or distributor; between Everything Everywhere All at Once and The Whale, the studio swept the "top five" awards — Best Picture and the four acting awards." |
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A24 did sweep the "top five," but the top five are Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay (Adapted or Original), and Best Actor and Actress. Please correct. [[User:Tigerfan5150|Tigerfan5150]] ([[User talk:Tigerfan5150|talk]]) 14:26, 13 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2023 == |
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Brendan Fraser, a Canadian-born actor, made history by becoming the first Canadian-born actor to win the Oscar for Best Actor at the 95th Academy Awards [[User:Superspyagent|Superspyagent]] ([[User talk:Superspyagent|talk]]) 04:45, 14 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Lightoil|Lightoil]] ([[User talk:Lightoil|talk]]) 07:49, 14 March 2023 (UTC) |
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::This would be an erroneous statement; Fraser was born in Indianapolis (see his article). 20:18, 15 March 2023 (UTC) [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] ([[User talk:23skidoo|talk]]) 20:18, 15 March 2023 (UTC) |
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==In memoriam== |
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I added two things: one that a URL for more tributes was shown at the end of the segment (has anyone checked to see if any of the people mentioned as being omitted were included); I also noted (I know without source, but this is common sense) that some people cannot be included due to passing away too close to the broadcast, after the tribute segment would have been edited and timed out; such was the case with Sizemore and Topol at least, both of whom died only days before the show. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] ([[User talk:23skidoo|talk]]) 20:16, 15 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:Pat Carroll was not included. Despite an earlier promotion of the upcoming Little Mermaid live action film. [[Special:Contributions/2604:3D09:6A85:6000:B066:69CC:D9C2:8057|2604:3D09:6A85:6000:B066:69CC:D9C2:8057]] ([[User talk:2604:3D09:6A85:6000:B066:69CC:D9C2:8057|talk]]) 16:11, 17 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== Chadwick Boseman correction == |
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"Comparisons were made to Chadwick Boseman not winning Best Actor for his role in the first Black Panther film." Chadwick Boseman lost Best Actor for his role in Ma Rainey's Black Bottom. [[Special:Contributions/2601:600:8780:ECB0:FCEC:988E:413C:EB56|2601:600:8780:ECB0:FCEC:988E:413C:EB56]] ([[User talk:2601:600:8780:ECB0:FCEC:988E:413C:EB56|talk]]) 02:42, 18 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== Did the trivia of this page get super trimmed down? (July 2 2023 to July 22 2023 ) == |
== Did the trivia of this page get super trimmed down? (July 2 2023 to July 22 2023 ) == |
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What happened? [[User:Duyneuzaenasagae|Duyneuzaenasagae]] ([[User talk:Duyneuzaenasagae|talk]]) 22:19, 22 July 2023 (UTC) |
What happened? [[User:Duyneuzaenasagae|Duyneuzaenasagae]] ([[User talk:Duyneuzaenasagae|talk]]) 22:19, 22 July 2023 (UTC) |
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== Add Rotten Tomatoes info == |
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Add Rotten Tomatoes consensus info to the reception/reviews section (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_academy_awards/s95) [[User:JustWantToWrite|JustWantToWrite]] ([[User talk:JustWantToWrite|talk]]) 15:43, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
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==Why is this article a list? == |
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Why is this article a list? The article ''includes'' as a main segment a list of Academy Awards nominees and winners. However, the article is about the ''whole'' ceremony, so this article covers an event and appears to be a normal event-article. It would be a list if it was for example [[List of 95th Academy Awards winners and nominees]]. [[Special:Contributions/46.44.158.42|46.44.158.42]] ([[User talk:46.44.158.42|talk]]) 11:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:The consensus that award ceremonies are lists is pretty well established by practice. For award ceremonies, the core information is in list format (as lists of the winners/nominees). This contrasts with an article, where the core information is written as prose and any lists are supplementary. I would consider it this way: if we stripped the page to its most basic form, what would we be left with? Here, it would look something like {{oldid2|1229223324|this}} – which is clearly a list. What do you find concerning about classifying this as a list instead of an article? [[User:RunningTiger123|RunningTiger123]] ([[User talk:RunningTiger123|talk]]) 02:51, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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John Williams' age
[edit]The article says John Williams became the oldest ever nominee in any Oscar category, at age 90. But 90 was his age when the nominations were announced, and he turned 91 between then and the day of the ceremony. The sentence currently reads as follows:
At age 90, John Williams became the oldest competitive nominee in Oscar history, and with this being his 53rd nomination, he also broke his own record as the most Oscar-nominated living person, and the second-most nominated person (behind Walt Disney).
It also feels weird to me that it doesn't list how many noms Disney got (59), so I also want to add that. I also think it would make sense to split the sentence in twain, to avoid it becoming too long. Please change to something like this instead:
John Williams became the oldest competitive nominee in Oscar history, as he was 90 years old when nominees were announced (he turned 91 between then and the ceremony). With this being his 53rd nomination, he also broke his own record as the most Oscar-nominated living person, and the second-most nominated person ever (behind Walt Disney at 59 nominations).
Thank you in advance. - 87.58.119.203 (talk) 09:08, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Nevermind, now that the article isn't locked anymore I've added it myself. - 87.58.119.203 (talk) 21:01, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
Did the trivia of this page get super trimmed down? (July 2 2023 to July 22 2023 )
[edit]I just looked at the page now, and it looks so barren now like so much got cut.
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I opened a random version (1163051916, from July 2), and it looked nice.
There were 16 first-time nominees across the four acting categories, including all five Best Actor nominees, the most in Oscar history. Michelle Yeoh was the first woman who identifies as Asian nominated for Best Actress. A record four Asian actors received acting nominations: Hong Chau, Stephanie Hsu, and winners Ke Huy Quan and Yeoh. With her Best Supporting Actress nomination for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, Angela Bassett became the first person to receive an acting nomination for a role in a film based on Marvel Comics.
Judd Hirsch, nominated for Best Supporting Actor for his performance in The Fabelmans, set a new record for longest gap between two acting nominations, following his nomination for Ordinary People (1980). John Williams became the oldest competitive nominee in Oscar history, as he was 90 years old when nominees were announced (he turned 91 between then and the ceremony). With this being his 53rd nomination, he also extended his own record as the most Oscar-nominated living person, and the second-most nominated person ever (behind Walt Disney at 59 nominations). For his nomination for Le pupille for Best Live Action Short Film, Alfonso Cuarón became the second person to be nominated in seven different categories, following Kenneth Branagh; the film also was Disney+'s first nomination for the award.
Everything Everywhere All at Once became the first film since 2013's Gravity to win seven Academy Awards, and the most awarded Best Picture winner since 2008's Slumdog Millionaire (which won eight Academy Awards). It is the third film in history to win in three acting categories, following A Streetcar Named Desire (1951) and Network (1976), and the first of these films to also win Best Picture. A24 won a total of nine awards, more than any other studio or distributor; with Everything Everywhere All at Once and The Whale (with six and one top awards, respectively), the studio was the first to win seven of the eight top awards: Best Picture, Best Director, Best Original Screenplay, and the four acting awards (missing only Best Adapted Screenplay, for which A24 did not have any eligible nominees)."
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The current version looks so thin and gaunt.
"The winners were announced during the awards ceremony on March 12, 2023. Everything Everywhere All at Once became the first science-fiction film to win Best Picture, and it was the third film alongside 1951's A Streetcar Named Desire and 1976's Network to win three acting awards. Best Director winners Daniel Kwan and Daniel Scheinert became the third pair of directors to win for the same film. For the first time since the 7th ceremony in 1935, all five Best Actor nominees were first time nominees. Michelle Yeoh was the first Asian winner for Best Actress and the second woman of color overall after Halle Berry who won for her performance in 2001's Monster's Ball. Furthermore, she was the first woman to identify as Asian to be nominated in that category. Ke Huy Quan became the first Vietnamese person to win an Oscar and the second Asian winner for Best Supporting Actor after Haing S. Ngor, who won for his role in 1984's The Killing Fields. The 42-year span between Judd Hirsch's first nomination for his supporting role in 1980's Ordinary People and his second for The Fabelmans set the record for the longest gap between Oscar nominations. At age 90, Best Original Score nominee John Williams became the oldest person nominated competitively in Oscars history. Best Costume Design winner Ruth E. Carter was the first Black woman to win two Oscars."
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What happened? Duyneuzaenasagae (talk) 22:19, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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Add Rotten Tomatoes consensus info to the reception/reviews section (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_academy_awards/s95) JustWantToWrite (talk) 15:43, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Why is this article a list?
[edit]Why is this article a list? The article includes as a main segment a list of Academy Awards nominees and winners. However, the article is about the whole ceremony, so this article covers an event and appears to be a normal event-article. It would be a list if it was for example List of 95th Academy Awards winners and nominees. 46.44.158.42 (talk) 11:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- The consensus that award ceremonies are lists is pretty well established by practice. For award ceremonies, the core information is in list format (as lists of the winners/nominees). This contrasts with an article, where the core information is written as prose and any lists are supplementary. I would consider it this way: if we stripped the page to its most basic form, what would we be left with? Here, it would look something like this – which is clearly a list. What do you find concerning about classifying this as a list instead of an article? RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:51, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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