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-This page contains inaccuracies. The Women's Rights Party NZ is not "transphobic". This is a slur used to silence women who call for accurate data collection on sex and a review of sex self identification in policy and legislation. Why has the editing function on this page been restricted? [[User:6Bluedoves|6Bluedoves]] ([[User talk:6Bluedoves|talk]]) 19:55, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
-::"A slur used to silence women" is transphobic propaganda pure and simple. These people are not victims...the language of that manner is like saying that calling the KKK racist is a slur used to silence white people. [[User:PicturePerfect666|PicturePerfect666]] ([[User talk:PicturePerfect666|talk]]) 18:29, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
-:@[[User:6Bluedoves|6Bluedoves]] I have just removed it. I have not seen any source describe it this way so it appears to be [[WP:OR]]. If anyone could provide a source that would be great; older versions of this article did not have transphobia as a listed ideology. —<span style="font-family:Poppins">[[User:Panamitsu|Panamitsu]]</span> [[User_talk:Panamitsu|(talk)]] 21:12, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
-::Thank you for that. The party supports full and open expression of gender and identity but defends the need for single sex spaces in prisons, refuges, rape crisis centres and sports to ensure fairness, dignity and safety for women and girls who make up 85% of victims of sexual assault - 98% of which are committed by male perpetrators. [[User:6Bluedoves|6Bluedoves]] ([[User talk:6Bluedoves|talk]]) 21:49, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
-:::The page is still describing the party as transphobic. The page is generally written in a polemical tone with several defamatory statements. It omits major contextual information around the events that lead to the formation of the party after New Zealand effectively erased the identity of women by passing self-ID legislation giving any man the right to enter women and girls' private spaces. This is not controversial but a matter of record. I request permission to edit the page to remove the defamation and supply appropriate factual context. [[User:ChrisPook|ChrisPook]] ([[User talk:ChrisPook|talk]]) 20:10, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
-::::You appear to have an extreme interpretation of the law. For you to edit the article would not be appropriate.-<span style="font-family:cursive; color:grey;">[[User talk:gadfium|gadfium]]</span> 21:37, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
-:::::I think it's telling that you are hurling around accusations of extremism. I'm not hiding behind an anonymous identity here. I'm an actual scientist biologist with an interest in equity. The Womens' Rights Party was set up to advance the interests of an oppressed class and they are legally allowed to pursue those rights under the Human Rights Act 1993. Claiming that they are 'phobic for doing so is the extreme, misogynist position. [[Special:Contributions/2404:4408:8786:600:B82:C3E2:8EF4:3319|2404:4408:8786:600:B82:C3E2:8EF4:3319]] ([[User talk:2404:4408:8786:600:B82:C3E2:8EF4:3319|talk]]) 22:22, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
-::::::Whoops. Didn't realise I wasn't logged in. Here's my reply to Gadfium: I think it's telling that you are hurling around accusations of extremism. I'm not hiding behind an anonymous identity here. I'm an actual scientist, a biologist, with an interest in equity. The Womens' Rights Party was set up to advance the interests of an oppressed class and they are legally allowed to pursue those rights under the Human Rights Act 1993. Claiming that they are 'phobic for doing so is the extreme, misogynist position. [[User:ChrisPook|ChrisPook]] ([[User talk:ChrisPook|talk]]) 22:25, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
-:::::::Thanks for your comments, but I'm not sure if it's appropriate to go into this detail about this in the talk page, it should be more about improving the article. —<span style="font-family:Poppins">[[User:Panamitsu|Panamitsu]]</span> [[User_talk:Panamitsu|(talk)]] 23:48, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
-::::@[[User:ChrisPook|ChrisPook]] How about if you want to make changes, you make edit requests in the talk page. As you have certain views, it may constitute a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] which may introduce bias (ignoring any potential bias on the article, I have not read it properly). —<span style="font-family:Poppins">[[User:Panamitsu|Panamitsu]]</span> [[User_talk:Panamitsu|(talk)]] 22:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
-:::::I am trying to work out how to do that. It's not intuitive. [[User:ChrisPook|ChrisPook]] ([[User talk:ChrisPook|talk]]) 22:25, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
-::::::Just write in this talk page "change x to y", making sure to provide sources. —<span style="font-family:Poppins">[[User:Panamitsu|Panamitsu]]</span> [[User_talk:Panamitsu|(talk)]] 23:45, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
-This talk page is also not a soap box for the general positions of the party. Discussions of this kind need to be avoided.
-I would also like to point out these edits have been made shortly after the following was released by the party itself. It seems more than coincidental that the edits have started all of a sudden after this was released.
-[https://womensrightsparty.nz/cancel-your-donations-to-wikipedia-its-a-peddler-of-disinformation/ womens rights party press release on Wikiepdia]
-The closeness of this release and these edits is strong evidence of a conflict of interest and the subject of an article directing the content of an article [[User:PicturePerfect666|PicturePerfect666]] ([[User talk:PicturePerfect666|talk]]) 18:29, 31 October 2023 (UTC)