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== Color contrast - accessibility ==

Hi. In support of Gnevin's edit, [[Wikipedia:NAVBOXCOLOUR#In_navboxes]] states that color different than default can be used "when useful for identification and are appropriate, representative, and accessible". In this case, white on red is accessible. But it is not useful for identification nor representative. Thus the default colors can be used.

Walter Görlitz expressed the concern that blue on blue (the default colors) is not accessible. The reasoning is correct, but this default colors were carefully tested for accessibility. Testing with the tools listed at [[Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility#Color]] provides the following result.
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*Foreground: #0945AD - Background: #D0CEFD
*The contrast ratio is: 5.6:1
**Text passed at level AA
**Large text passed at level AA
**Large text passed at level AAA
*Contrast (Minimum): Text (and images of text) have a contrast ratio of at least 4.5:1, except if the text is pure decoration. Larger scale text (at least 18 point or 14 point bold) or images of text can have a contrast ratio of 3:1. (Level AA)}}
In short, this contrast is compliant to the standard level of contrast required (AA level). Cheers, [[User:Dodoïste|Dodoïste]] ([[User talk:Dodoïste|talk]]) 19:34, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
: Thanks. For those who don't know, the letter ratings above relate to [[:Web Content Accessibility Guidelines|WCAG 2.0]]. --[[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 20:12, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
::Also best to remember not to color/hide the links. As per [[WP:COLOUR]] - "Links should clearly be identifiable as a link to our readers."[[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 22:19, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

== Do lyrics define the genre or is it something else ==

A consensus was changed [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Heavy_metal_music&diff=536131366&oldid=535247937 here] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Heavy_metal_music&diff=536131843&oldid=536131366 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Heavy_metal_music&diff=536131909&oldid=536131843 here] with the reasons: "these aren't subgenres of metal" and "these terms refer to the lyrics only". Excellent [[:WP:BOLD|bold]] edit. They were [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Heavy_metal_music&diff=536219451&oldid=536131909 reverted here]. An edit war ensued without discussion. Overall [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template%3AHeavy_metal_music&diff=536219451&oldid=535247937 this the is difference].
* First edit is intact
** Cello rock is piped to Cello metal
** Crust punk is piped to Crust
** Death-doom is no longer piped to Death/doom
** Digital hardcore, Electronicore and Nintendocore removed
* Christian metal, Pagan metal, Pornogrind and Unblack metal are still in the article since they have stand-alone articles. Should they be moved to a different section of the template because they don't differ radically in musical style from other music-only genres, removed completely, should they be left as-is, or something else? --[[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 19:03, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

::I don't know. It's hard, because IMO a ganre can only be defined by it's aesthetics, which excludes definitions via lyrics. But still, we don't work here with opinions, but with sources. And all genres that Asarlai removed have their own article, and all of them have sources that relate them with another metal genres (even Digital hardcore and Electronicore have).
::*Christian metal seems to be some kind of an umbrella term (just like Extreme metal) for all metal with christian lyrics. So it seems to be a legit genre.
::*Pagan metal is already linked as a subgenre in the [[Black metal#Stylistic divisions|Black metal's article]].
::*Unblack metal seems to have the same aesthetics as Black metal, but still it has it's own article and sources.
::*Pornogrind, alongside with Goregrind, both have a more complex situation. They seem to be part of a fusion genre known as [[Deathgrind]], but with more focused lyrics. For me, both Pornogrind and Goregrind should be merged to the Deathgrind's article. But still, they fall on the same situation of Unblack metal, which was described above.

::I wanna utilize this section to say that I have intention to add the [[Dark metal]] and [[Latin metal]] in this template, but I'm not sure of it because there's some questions about those 2 that aren't well solved, consequently, their articles aren't well established. I want your opinions about them too.[[User:ABC paulista|ABC paulista]] ([[User talk:ABC paulista|talk]]) 19:51, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

:::Music genres are defined by more than lyrics alone. For that reason, I think we should keep [[Christian metal]], [[Pagan metal]], [[Pornogrind]], [[Unblack metal]] and [[National Socialist black metal]] out of this template. They refer to the lyrics only; not to a particular sound or style. However, if most editors want to keep them ''in'' the template, then they should be put under "Notable scenes".
:::I've no problem with adding [[Latin metal]], but I'm not sure about [[Dark metal]] as there seems to be no agreement on what it is. [[User:Asarlaí|~Asarlaí]] 20:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

::::As I said before, I agree with you about that when I said "IMO a ganre can only be defined by it's aesthetics, which excludes definitions via lyrics". But, the sources in their respective articles treat them as particular subgenres. I don't think we can fight against those. And no, they have nothing to do with a scene.
::::IMO, Pornogrind and Goregrind should be merged on the Deathgrind's article, since they refer to the lyrics only.
::::Unblack metal and NSBM, as I can recall, are treated as ideologies, not as subgenres...[[User:ABC paulista|ABC paulista]] ([[User talk:ABC paulista|talk]]) 20:56, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

::::: If a genre has enough merit for an article, it should be listed. Our job is to determine the best way of presenting that information to avoid confusion. Perhaps, the Subgenres section could be broken down further so that black metal and other primary sub-genres are listed more prominently. See [[:Template:Extreme metal]] for an example.
::::: I'm biased toward Christian metal and unblack metal. They, along with pagan metal are more than just a difference of lyrics, they are also a meeting point of two cultures: metal and a belief-system. --[[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 21:16, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

::::::Sure, but genres aren't defined by the lyrics or beliefs of the band members alone. If that was the case, then every topic would be its own genre: Sex Metal, Drinking Metal, Sci-Fi Metal, Mythology Metal, Socialist Metal, and so on.
::::::[[Christian metal]], [[Pagan metal]], [[Unblack metal]], [[National Socialist black metal]], [[Pornogrind]] and (possibly) [[Goregrind]] are terms based on lyrics alone. All the other kinds of metal here are based on much more than lyrics. Thus, the two don't belong together. Christian metal, Pagan metal asf are more like 'scenes' or 'subcultures'. If we choose to keep them in the template, they shouldn't be lumped in with other well-defined genres like death metal, black metal, thrash metal, doom metal, asf. To treat them as if they're all the same is misleading. [[User:Asarlaí|~Asarlaí]] 21:50, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Maybe we should create another sections in the template, something that behave articles about ideologies within genres, like [[Unblack metal]] and [[National Socialist black metal]].
Also, it's hard to determine what's "primary" and what isn't... [[User:ABC paulista|ABC paulista]] ([[User talk:ABC paulista|talk]]) 22:00, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

:I agree. If we're going to keep them in the template then they shouldn't be put with the rest, because they're not the same. We could put them in the "Notable scenes" section and re-name it "Notable scenes and subcultures". [[User:Asarlaí|~Asarlaí]] 23:58, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

::I really, really disagree with putting them with the scenes because they aren't a regional phenomenon or something like that. I'm more favourable to create a new, entirely different section for them. [[User:ABC paulista|ABC paulista]] ([[User talk:ABC paulista|talk]]) 01:23, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

:::What do you suggest we name it? "Ideologies" and "Movements" would fit for some but not for others. [[User:Asarlaí|~Asarlaí]] 02:25, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

::::Well, all of them deal with ideologies. So, what about "Ideologies within genres"? I think that's a little bit long name. So, maybe... "subcultures"? [[User:ABC paulista|ABC paulista]] ([[User talk:ABC paulista|talk]]) 20:03, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

:::::+1 for subcultures.
:::::Although perhaps looking at the roots of the genres to split them up further would make sense. Which are foundational and which are derivatives? Group them together as well. --[[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 20:17, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

::::::No... The Heavy metal's "family tree" is giant and really, really complex. It's hard to categorize them all, since newer genres tend to take influences from various older metal genres, making hard to find their origins. Even genres like Death metal and Black metal would cause discussions since they are kinda fundational, leading to the birth of another genres. However both came from Thrash metal, which in turn arose from Speed metal, giving them the status of derivatives... [[User:ABC paulista|ABC paulista]] ([[User talk:ABC paulista|talk]]) 19:56, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

:::::::I went ahead and moved those articles into a new section named "Subcultures".
:::::::I think now we should really look at merging [[Pornogrind]] into [[Grindcore]], [[Goregrind]] into [[Deathgrind]] and [[Symphonic black metal]] into [[black metal]]. [[User:Asarlaí|~Asarlaí]] 22:36, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

In my opinion, both Pornogrind and Goregrind should be merged into '''Deathgrind''', since they seem to be the same stuff musically.
And for Symphonic Black Metal, I think that the article should be kept, since it has some content, and somehow expanded. [[User:ABC paulista|ABC paulista]] ([[User talk:ABC paulista|talk]]) 23:26, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2014 ==

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[[User:GUROMETAL|GUROMETAL]] ([[User talk:GUROMETAL|talk]]) 21:52, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Jackmcbarn|Jackmcbarn]] ([[User talk:Jackmcbarn|talk]]) 00:39, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

== Grunge ==

{{ping|Issan Sumisu}} AllMusic calls grunge a fusion genre of punk rock, alternative rock, and heavy metal.<ref name="allmusic grunge">{{cite web |url=http://www.allmusic.com/style/grunge-ma0000002626 |title=Grunge |accessdate=August 24, 2012 |publisher=[[AllMusic]]}}</ref> Would someone want to discuss? [[User:Sixty Minute Limit|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Black;cursor:help">~SML</span>]] • [[User talk:Sixty Minute Limit |<span style="font-family:ComicSans MS; color:DarkBlue;cursor:help">TP</span>]] 18:45, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

{{ping|FlightTime}} If our revert things that are undiscussed, why don’t you participate in the discussion?
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:{{re|Sixty Minute Limit}} Because I don't know the subject matter that well. I just know that changes like this need to be discussed first. Especially changes to templates. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#FFD700">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 20:12, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
:: It seems reasonable to include it, particularly with the mention that early bands focused more on an early 70s metal sound while later bands were more melodic (read: pop) in sound. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 18:35, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Okay, well grunge has been added. '''[[User:Sixty Minute Limit|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Black;cursor:help">~SML</span>]]''' • '''[[User talk:Sixty Minute Limit |<span style="font-family:ComicSans MS; color:DarkBlue;cursor:help">TP</span>]]''' 18:38, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2020 ==

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Could someone put synth-metal in this template? [[Special:Contributions/73.54.195.214|73.54.195.214]] ([[User talk:73.54.195.214|talk]]) 00:40, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

{{done}} — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' 07:53, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2020 (2) ==

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Could someone also add Nintendocore to this template? [[Special:Contributions/73.54.195.214|73.54.195.214]] ([[User talk:73.54.195.214|talk]]) 17:12, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
: {{done}}. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 10:27, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

== Heavy Metal Cleanup ==

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Could someone please make sure that this template has all genres (even those that don't have pages) that fit under heavy metal and none that don't? I'd also like each genre to be put under the Heavy metal genres category and the template in all of the genres. Don't forget to message me. (I'd do all this myself, but I've never been good at reviewing.) [[Special:Contributions/2601:C7:C201:C640:F47E:5B35:8067:73AA|2601:C7:C201:C640:F47E:5B35:8067:73AA]] ([[User talk:2601:C7:C201:C640:F47E:5B35:8067:73AA|talk]]) 00:00, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
: {{not done}} Navigation templates are not lists. They should only include links to articles. See [[:WP:EXISTING]]. Also, adding "all genres" would require a list of those supposed genres that are missing, along with reliable sources for each. If you can do that, then those missing would likely merit their own article and can be added. If you cannot, then add details, again with at least one reliable source, to an article of a related genre. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 08:55, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

== Unblack metal ==

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Could someone put Unblack metal under Black metal? [[Special:Contributions/73.54.195.214|73.54.195.214]] ([[User talk:73.54.195.214|talk]]) 15:33, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

:{{notdone}} It's already listed under controversies. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' 15:40, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
:: Why is it under controversies and not genres? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:C7:C201:C640:EC61:6840:B463:3081|2601:C7:C201:C640:EC61:6840:B463:3081]] ([[User talk:2601:C7:C201:C640:EC61:6840:B463:3081#top|talk]]) 03:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Semi-protected edit request on 7 February 2021 ==

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Could someone remove Heavy metal and nu metalcore from this template (the former just brings redundancy and the latter is just a redirect)? [[Special:Contributions/2601:C7:C201:C640:F47E:5B35:8067:73AA|2601:C7:C201:C640:F47E:5B35:8067:73AA]] ([[User talk:2601:C7:C201:C640:F47E:5B35:8067:73AA|talk]]) 17:04, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

:{{done}}, makes sense. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' 17:40, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

== Black Metal ==

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Could someone put National Socialist, Symphonic, and Unblack under Black metal? [[Special:Contributions/2601:C7:C201:C640:858:F10A:19EB:FFF3|2601:C7:C201:C640:858:F10A:19EB:FFF3]] ([[User talk:2601:C7:C201:C640:858:F10A:19EB:FFF3|talk]]) 23:08, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{done}}. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 06:37, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

== Metalcore ==

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Could someone group the Metalcore genres? [[Special:Contributions/73.54.195.214|73.54.195.214]] ([[User talk:73.54.195.214|talk]]) 19:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> - [[User:Flori4nK|<b><code style="color:#4169E1;padding:1px">Flori4nK</code></b>]] <sup style="text-align:center;padding:1.5px;color:black">[[User talk:Flori4nK|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Flori4nK|c]]</sup> 15:34, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== Cleanup ==

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Could someone:
*regroup the Metalcore genres?
*put Indigenous metal music and Visual kei (with Nagoya kei grouped under it) in this template?
*take out all genres (unless they have sections in the pages they redirect to) that don't have pages?
*group Post-metal under avant-garde metal? [[Special:Contributions/2601:C7:C201:C640:F47E:5B35:8067:73AA|2601:C7:C201:C640:F47E:5B35:8067:73AA]] ([[User talk:2601:C7:C201:C640:F47E:5B35:8067:73AA|talk]]) 17:30, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
:[[File:Yellow check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Partly done:'''<!-- Template:ESp -->
:*Metalcore is already grouped, not sure what you mean.
:*Added [[Indigenous metal music]] into "notable scenes and movements", but [[Visual kei]] doesn't really appear to be movement or a genre of heavy metal.
:*All the listed genres have corresponding articles.
:*The article for [[post-metal]] just says it's "closely related to avant-garde metal" rather than being a subgenre.
:[[User:Volteer1|Volteer1]] ([[User talk:Volteer1|talk]]) 12:32, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
::Some genres, like Mathcore, aren't listed under Metalcore, even though they're subgenres of it. The reason why I requested Visual kei was because I saw it in the category Heavy metal genres. Have you taken out the genres that are just redirects? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:C7:C201:C640:B8FF:809F:2B15:A7AE|2601:C7:C201:C640:B8FF:809F:2B15:A7AE]] ([[User talk:2601:C7:C201:C640:B8FF:809F:2B15:A7AE#top|talk]]) 13:38, 23 March 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Electronicore ==

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Could someone add Electronicore? [[Special:Contributions/2601:C7:C201:C640:5470:F380:A795:9D7F|2601:C7:C201:C640:5470:F380:A795:9D7F]] ([[User talk:2601:C7:C201:C640:5470:F380:A795:9D7F|talk]]) 20:29, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 20:38, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

== Nerd Genres ==

Could someone add Heavy Mithril and Nerd Metal on here? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:C7:C201:C640:D5B6:50B1:EBB3:570F|2601:C7:C201:C640:D5B6:50B1:EBB3:570F]] ([[User talk:2601:C7:C201:C640:D5B6:50B1:EBB3:570F#top|talk]]) 03:00, 18 June 2021 (UTC)</small>
: We would have to be able to point to an article where they are discussed and I don't presently see any such target. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 05:53, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2021 ==

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Could someone group Djent and Progressive metalcore under Porgressive metal? [[Special:Contributions/47.36.25.163|47.36.25.163]] ([[User talk:47.36.25.163|talk]]) 16:16, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> [[Djent]] and [[Progressive metalcore]] already have pages that detail their stylistic origins in progressive metal. Thanks, [[User:Heartmusic678|Heartmusic678]] ([[User talk:Heartmusic678|talk]]) 11:28, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2021 ==

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Could someone add Digital hardcore? [[Special:Contributions/47.36.25.163|47.36.25.163]] ([[User talk:47.36.25.163|talk]]) 19:25, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

:{{notdone}} Not a heavy metal subgenre, already included at [[:Template:Hardcore punk]]. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' 19:30, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2021 ==

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Could someone add Dungeon synth to this template (and group it under Black metal)? [[Special:Contributions/47.36.25.163|47.36.25.163]] ([[User talk:47.36.25.163|talk]]) 23:04, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 23:07, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
::I'd greatly appreciate it if you'd ''look'' for sources instead of just blindly deleting my edits. [[Special:Contributions/47.36.25.163|47.36.25.163]] ([[User talk:47.36.25.163|talk]]) 23:22, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
:::That's not how it works here. The [[WP:ONUS|onus]] is on you to provide worthy sources, since you are the one wanting the change. If you asked us to add "left-handed polar alligator", would you expect that we just add it? Even though you made up the expression while drunk? I would hope not. If you want dungeon synth added, it must be because you have citation(s) to reliable source(s) for that addition. <i>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:JohnFromPinckney|JohnFromPinckney]] ([[User talk:JohnFromPinckney|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/JohnFromPinckney|edits]])</i> 01:15, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
::::The Dungeon synth article has some sources next to the link for black metal. [[Special:Contributions/47.36.25.163|47.36.25.163]] ([[User talk:47.36.25.163|talk]]) 01:41, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2021 ==

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Could someone change this template to look more like this?

{{Navbox
| name = Heavy metal music
| title = {{colored link|white|Heavy metal music|Heavy metal}}
| state = {{{state|autocollapse}}}
| bodyclass = hlist
| basestyle = background: #BB0022; color: white;
|group1={{colored link|white|Heavy metal genres|Subgenres and<br>fusion genres}}
|list1=
* [[Avant-garde metal]]
* [[Beatdown hardcore]]
* [[Biker metal]]
* [[Christian metal]]
* [[Djent]]
* [[Drone metal]]
* [[Folk metal]]
** [[Celtic metal]]
** [[Medieval metal]]
* [[Glam metal]]
* [[Gothic metal]]
* [[Grunge]]
* [[Groove metal]]
* [[Industrial metal]]
* [[Kawaii metal]]
* [[Latin metal]]
* [[Neoclassical metal]]
* [[Pirate metal]]
* [[Post-metal]]
* [[Power metal]]
* [[Progressive metal]]
* [[Symphonic metal]]
* [[Electronic_rock#Subgenres_and_other_terms|Synth-metal]]

{{navbox|subgroup
|group1= {{colored link|white|Alternative metal}}
|basestyle = background: #BB0022; color: white;
|list1=
* [[Funk metal]]
* [[Neue Deutsche Härte]]
* [[Nu metal]]
* [[Rap metal]]

|group2={{colored link|white|Extreme metal}}
|list2=
* [[Black metal]]
** [[dungeon synth]]
** [[National Socialist black metal|National socialist]]
** [[Black_metal#Post-black_metal|post-black metal]]
** [[Red and anarchist black metal|Red and anarchist]]
** [[symphonic black metal|symphonic]]
** [[Unblack metal|unblack]]
** [[Viking metal]]
* [[death metal]]
** [[melodic death metal|melodic]]
** [[technical death metal|technical]]
* [[doom metal]]
* [[speed metal]]
* [[thrash metal]]

{{navbox|subgroup
|group1= Fusion genres
|basestyle = background: #BB0022; color: white;
|list1=
* [[Blackened death metal]]
** [[Blackened_death_metal#Melodic_black-death|melodic black death]]
** [[Blackened_death_metal#War_metal|war metal]]
* [[Heavy_metal_genres#Blackened_screamo|blackened screamo]]
* [[blackgaze]]
* [[crossover thrash]]
* [[crust punk]]
* [[death-doom]]
* [[death 'n' roll]]
* [[drone metal]]
* [[Doom_metal#Funeral_doom|funeral doom]]
* [[grindcore]]
** [[deathgrind]]
** [[Grindcore#Electrogrind|electrogrind]]
** [[goregrind]]
** [[pornogrind]]
* [[Industrial_metal#Industrial_thrash_and_death_metal|industrial death metal]]
* [[Industrial_metal#Industrial_black_metal|industrial black metal]]
* [[pagan metal]]
* [[sludge metal]]
* [[stoner rock|stoner metal]]
* [[Symphonic_metal#Symphonic_death_metal|symphonic death metal]]
* [[Viking metal]]

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* [[Melodic metalcore|melodic]]
* [[Nintendocore]]
* [[Progressive metalcore|progressive]]
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== Bad colour ==
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* [[Heavy metal bass|Bass]]
**[[Fuzz bass]]
* [[Heavy metal drumming|Drumming]]
** [[Blast beat]]
** [[Cymbal choke]]
** [[Heavy metal gallop|Gallop drumbeat]]
* [[Heavy metal guitar|Guitar]]
** [[Distortion (music)|Distortion]]
** [[Guitar solo]]
** [[palm mute|Palm muting]]
** [[Power chord]]
** [[Shred guitar]]
* [[Heavy metal lyrics|Lyrics]]
* [[Singing|Vocals]]
** [[Death growl]]
** [[Screaming (music)|Screaming]]


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THe red colour is just wrong! See [[Grunge]] for example. [[Special:Contributions/121.98.204.148|121.98.204.148]] ([[User talk:121.98.204.148|talk]]) 05:36, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
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* [[African heavy metal]]
* [[Argentine heavy metal]]
* [[Australian thrash metal]]
* [[Australian heavy metal]]
* [[Bangladeshi heavy metal]]
* [[Bay Area thrash metal]]
* [[Brazilian thrash metal]]
* [[Chinese heavy metal]]
* [[Florida death metal]]
* [[Hungarian metal]]
* [[Indigenous metal music]]
* [[Japanese metal]]
* [[Les Légions Noires]]
* [[New wave of American heavy metal]]
* [[New wave of British heavy metal]]
* [[Early Norwegian black metal scene|Early Norwegian black metal]]
* [[Palm Desert Scene|Palm Desert]]
* [[Swedish death metal]]
* [[Teutonic thrash metal]]
* [[Ukrainian metal]]


:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Among Us for POTUS|Among Us for POTUS]] ([[User talk:Among Us for POTUS|talk]]) 23:45, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
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::Reliable source! Your are joking aren't you? Or are you colour blind? [[Special:Contributions/121.98.204.148|121.98.204.148]] ([[User talk:121.98.204.148|talk]]) 23:32, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
* [[List of heavy metal bands|Bands]]
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> '''<span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> [[User:Paper9oll|<span style="background:#f535aa;color:#fff;padding:2px;border-radius:5px">Paper9oll</span>]] <span style="color:#f535aa">([[User talk:Paper9oll|🔔]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper9oll|📝]])</span>''' 16:19, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
* [[Heavy metal fashion|Fashion]]
::FFS! This is not an article it is a template. And all I want changed is the colour. Are you editors hitting an "answered" button on some simiautomated bot without looking at what the request is about. Have a look at the article I linked to. This template sticks out like dogs balls!! WP is not going anywhere with you useless editors. !!!! [[Special:Contributions/121.98.204.148|121.98.204.148]] ([[User talk:121.98.204.148|talk]]) 00:11, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
* [[List of heavy metal festivals|Festivals]]
* [[Headbanging]]
* [[Heavy metal subculture]]
* [[Poseur]]
* [[Metal umlaut|Umlaut]]


::Ok. I will spell it out for you. USE THE COMMONLY USED COLOUR! [[Special:Contributions/121.98.204.148|121.98.204.148]] ([[User talk:121.98.204.148|talk]]) 20:56, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
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:::It seems red is the common color for this template, [[Special:Permalink/72713156|since 2006]]. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 21:01, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
* {{colored link|white|Hard rock}}
* {{Icon|Category}} {{colored link|white|Category:Heavy metal music|Category}}


}} [[Special:Contributions/2601:C7:C201:C640:6434:F270:9B3C:B5A9|2601:C7:C201:C640:6434:F270:9B3C:B5A9]] ([[User talk:2601:C7:C201:C640:6434:F270:9B3C:B5A9|talk]]) 19:54, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
::::You have used common in the wrong context. Red has been used since 2006. It is not "common" since 2006. Try doing some thinking. [[Special:Contributions/121.98.204.148|121.98.204.148]] ([[User talk:121.98.204.148|talk]]) 21:09, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:''' please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests|before]]''' using the {{Tlx|Edit semi-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Lemonaka|Lemonaka]] ([[User talk:Lemonaka|talk]]) 18:18, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
:{{not done}} While I'm open to the idea of better categorisation of subgenres, I don't think this works. The left-to-right layout implies umbrellas or other connections that it shouldn't. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' 21:37, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
:{{done}} per [[MOS:NAVBOXCOLOR]] as not an "appropriate, representative" colour for the genre. (I'd made this change as a seemingly obvious one, before seeing the talk page discussion.) [[User:Belbury|Belbury]] ([[User talk:Belbury|talk]]) 10:16, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
::In that case, what do ''you'' suggest? [[Special:Contributions/2601:C7:C201:C640:F18D:AB0E:7875:86CF|2601:C7:C201:C640:F18D:AB0E:7875:86CF]] ([[User talk:2601:C7:C201:C640:F18D:AB0E:7875:86CF|talk]]) 03:00, 20 December 2021 (UTC)


== Oriental Metal ==
== Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2022 ==


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Could someone add [[Countrycore]] to this template? [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C5A:417F:794E:1469:BBDB:BA98:58B2|2600:6C5A:417F:794E:1469:BBDB:BA98:58B2]] ([[User talk:2600:6C5A:417F:794E:1469:BBDB:BA98:58B2|talk]]) 14:36, 23 October 2022 (UTC) [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C5A:417F:794E:1469:BBDB:BA98:58B2|2600:6C5A:417F:794E:1469:BBDB:BA98:58B2]] ([[User talk:2600:6C5A:417F:794E:1469:BBDB:BA98:58B2|talk]]) 14:36, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
Could someone group Celtic metal and Medieval metal under Folk metal? [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C5A:417F:794E:C989:99AB:8A0C:D7A5|2600:6C5A:417F:794E:C989:99AB:8A0C:D7A5]] ([[User talk:2600:6C5A:417F:794E:C989:99AB:8A0C:D7A5|talk]]) 21:01, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> ''-- [[User:Asartea|<span style="color:#ad0000;">Asartea</span>]] [[User Talk:Asartea|<span style="color:#ad0000;"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]] <sup>&#124;</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Asartea|<span style="color:#ad0000;"><sup>Contribs</sup></span>]]'' 19:09, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:AnnaMankad|AnnaMankad]] ([[User talk:AnnaMankad|talk]]) 05:23, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2022 ==

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Could someone add Metalbilly to this template (and categorize it under Countrycore)? [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C5A:417F:794E:F95C:AD77:13BA:D01D|2600:6C5A:417F:794E:F95C:AD77:13BA:D01D]] ([[User talk:2600:6C5A:417F:794E:F95C:AD77:13BA:D01D|talk]]) 23:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:44, 11 July 2024

Bad colour

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THe red colour is just wrong! See Grunge for example. 121.98.204.148 (talk) 05:36, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Among Us for POTUS (talk) 23:45, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Reliable source! Your are joking aren't you? Or are you colour blind? 121.98.204.148 (talk) 23:32, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:19, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
FFS! This is not an article it is a template. And all I want changed is the colour. Are you editors hitting an "answered" button on some simiautomated bot without looking at what the request is about. Have a look at the article I linked to. This template sticks out like dogs balls!! WP is not going anywhere with you useless editors. !!!! 121.98.204.148 (talk) 00:11, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. I will spell it out for you. USE THE COMMONLY USED COLOUR! 121.98.204.148 (talk) 20:56, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It seems red is the common color for this template, since 2006. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:01, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You have used common in the wrong context. Red has been used since 2006. It is not "common" since 2006. Try doing some thinking. 121.98.204.148 (talk) 21:09, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. Lemonaka (talk) 18:18, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done per MOS:NAVBOXCOLOR as not an "appropriate, representative" colour for the genre. (I'd made this change as a seemingly obvious one, before seeing the talk page discussion.) Belbury (talk) 10:16, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oriental Metal

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Could someone group Celtic metal and Medieval metal under Folk metal? 2600:6C5A:417F:794E:C989:99AB:8A0C:D7A5 (talk) 21:01, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done AnnaMankad (talk) 05:23, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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