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== Extension to Scarborough Centre == |
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The article needs to be updated to mention that the extension to Scarborough Centre would remove a station at Lawrence and McCowan (where [[ |
The article needs to be updated to mention that the extension to Scarborough Centre would remove a station at Lawrence and McCowan (where [[Scarborough General Hospital (Toronto)|Scarborough General Hospital]] is). The article can be cleaned up further as more information is released. <span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;"> [[User:Johnny Au|<span style="color:#ffd700;background:#000080">Johnny Au</span>]]</span> <sub>([[User talk:Johnny Au|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Johnny Au|contributions]])</sub> 03:07, 21 January 2016 (UTC) |
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:It has been added. <span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;"> [[User:Johnny Au|<span style="color:#ffd700;background:#000080">Johnny Au</span>]]</span> <sub>([[User talk:Johnny Au|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Johnny Au|contributions]])</sub> 03:02, 6 March 2016 (UTC) |
:It has been added. <span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;"> [[User:Johnny Au|<span style="color:#ffd700;background:#000080">Johnny Au</span>]]</span> <sub>([[User talk:Johnny Au|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Johnny Au|contributions]])</sub> 03:02, 6 March 2016 (UTC) |
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WP:RS says "Self-published material may sometimes be acceptable when its author is an established expert whose work in the relevant field has been published by reliable third-party publications." Steve Munro has published articles in the main stream press and is also sought out from time to time by main stream reporters for opinion. The referenced article in question cites TTC documents even reproducing portions of some of them. (If it hadn't, I would not have cited the article or made the contribution.) Munro and also Ben Spurr of the Toronto Star seem to have access to documents that are difficult (impossible?) to find online. (I did find the $7 million to plan for the new carhouse on the TTC site but it sure wasn't explained well. I think Steve Munro would be more expert than I in selecting appropriate articles.) I will try to include REFs to TTC documents in future where I can find them. As an aside, I am now very hesitant to cite Munro's opinions as there are some people who don't like him including some IP-address contributors who don't bother with REFs at all.[[User:TheTrolleyPole|TheTrolleyPole]] ([[User talk:TheTrolleyPole|talk]]) 17:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC) |
WP:RS says "Self-published material may sometimes be acceptable when its author is an established expert whose work in the relevant field has been published by reliable third-party publications." Steve Munro has published articles in the main stream press and is also sought out from time to time by main stream reporters for opinion. The referenced article in question cites TTC documents even reproducing portions of some of them. (If it hadn't, I would not have cited the article or made the contribution.) Munro and also Ben Spurr of the Toronto Star seem to have access to documents that are difficult (impossible?) to find online. (I did find the $7 million to plan for the new carhouse on the TTC site but it sure wasn't explained well. I think Steve Munro would be more expert than I in selecting appropriate articles.) I will try to include REFs to TTC documents in future where I can find them. As an aside, I am now very hesitant to cite Munro's opinions as there are some people who don't like him including some IP-address contributors who don't bother with REFs at all.[[User:TheTrolleyPole|TheTrolleyPole]] ([[User talk:TheTrolleyPole|talk]]) 17:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:My 2¢: When he references other sources (as noted above), |
:My 2¢: When he references other sources (as noted above), he's most certainly a [[WP:RS]]. On the other hand, his opinions are just that – so things have to be taken in context. [[User:Useddenim|Useddenim]] ([[User talk:Useddenim|talk]]) 17:56, 16 July 2017 (UTC) |
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::Agree with that. --'''[[User:Natural RX|<span style="color:#000000;">Natural</span>]] [[User talk:Natural RX|<span style="color:#228b22;">R</span><sub><span style="color:#000000;">X</span></sub>]]''' 18:40, 16 July 2017 (UTC) |
::Agree with that. --'''[[User:Natural RX|<span style="color:#000000;">Natural</span>]] [[User talk:Natural RX|<span style="color:#228b22;">R</span><sub><span style="color:#000000;">X</span></sub>]]''' 18:40, 16 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Okay, I appreciate the comprehensive reply and that sounds reasonable... I think, though, that we should make an effort to find the primary source documents from the TTC or Metrolinx if we can. Otherwise, I'm fine with using Munro's blog as a source for factual stuff—that's how I know at least half the stuff I do about Toronto's transit. 😀 —[[User:Joeyconnick|Joeyconnick]] ([[User talk:Joeyconnick|talk]]) 21:31, 16 July 2017 (UTC) |
:::Okay, I appreciate the comprehensive reply and that sounds reasonable... I think, though, that we should make an effort to find the primary source documents from the TTC or Metrolinx if we can. Otherwise, I'm fine with using Munro's blog as a source for factual stuff—that's how I know at least half the stuff I do about Toronto's transit. 😀 —[[User:Joeyconnick|Joeyconnick]] ([[User talk:Joeyconnick|talk]]) 21:31, 16 July 2017 (UTC) |
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Reverse list/image?
[edit]The middle of this page has a list of stages in a table right next to a map of the line. The map (from top to bottom) is from East to West, while the table starts from the West to East. It's rather disorienting. Could either the table be reversed or the image be replaced with one that is vertically flipped (with the proper oriented wording of course)
Extension to Scarborough Centre
[edit]The article needs to be updated to mention that the extension to Scarborough Centre would remove a station at Lawrence and McCowan (where Scarborough General Hospital is). The article can be cleaned up further as more information is released. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:07, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
- It has been added. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:02, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Steve Munro
[edit]@Joeyconnick, Johnny Au, and Useddenim: Comments welcomed. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 17:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
Joeyconnick said: " not really sure Steve Munro qualifies as a WP:RS... we should be quoting documents and minutes, not a private citizen reporting that information".
WP:RS says "Self-published material may sometimes be acceptable when its author is an established expert whose work in the relevant field has been published by reliable third-party publications." Steve Munro has published articles in the main stream press and is also sought out from time to time by main stream reporters for opinion. The referenced article in question cites TTC documents even reproducing portions of some of them. (If it hadn't, I would not have cited the article or made the contribution.) Munro and also Ben Spurr of the Toronto Star seem to have access to documents that are difficult (impossible?) to find online. (I did find the $7 million to plan for the new carhouse on the TTC site but it sure wasn't explained well. I think Steve Munro would be more expert than I in selecting appropriate articles.) I will try to include REFs to TTC documents in future where I can find them. As an aside, I am now very hesitant to cite Munro's opinions as there are some people who don't like him including some IP-address contributors who don't bother with REFs at all.TheTrolleyPole (talk) 17:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- My 2¢: When he references other sources (as noted above), he's most certainly a WP:RS. On the other hand, his opinions are just that – so things have to be taken in context. Useddenim (talk) 17:56, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- Agree with that. --Natural RX 18:40, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, I appreciate the comprehensive reply and that sounds reasonable... I think, though, that we should make an effort to find the primary source documents from the TTC or Metrolinx if we can. Otherwise, I'm fine with using Munro's blog as a source for factual stuff—that's how I know at least half the stuff I do about Toronto's transit. 😀 —Joeyconnick (talk) 21:31, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- It depends. If Munro had his own evidence that passes WP:RS to back up his claims, then it's acceptable. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:21, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, I appreciate the comprehensive reply and that sounds reasonable... I think, though, that we should make an effort to find the primary source documents from the TTC or Metrolinx if we can. Otherwise, I'm fine with using Munro's blog as a source for factual stuff—that's how I know at least half the stuff I do about Toronto's transit. 😀 —Joeyconnick (talk) 21:31, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- Agree with that. --Natural RX 18:40, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
Tunnel contract awarded today
[edit]Full work to begin in June, $757.1M contract awarded.[1] - Floydian τ ¢ 00:31, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Good. It would be great to take photos once construction starts. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 17:46, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
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