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box office

Most films that fail to gross back more than triple of their budgets if they count domestic and foreign box offices are flops. --71.212.110.117 (talk) 17:03, 25 March 2017 (UTC)Evan Kalani Opedal[reply]

Pitch Black

Can we include a picture of Pitch Black? Tinka Hessenheffer (talk) 12:32, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Dreamworks open sourced toolkit used to make Guardians ==
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-They open sourced the [[OpenVDB]] toolkit used to make the Guardians. As covered in articles at The Verge[http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/22/3679870/dreamworks-openvdb-special-effects-tool-open-source] and the Wall Street Journal [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323622904578129551861947218.html?mod=googlenews_wsj] --[[Special:Contributions/Thanksanon]] ([[User talk:Thanksanon|talk]]) 18:51, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
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-:Added in the article. Thank you for your contribution.--[[User:Carniolus|Carniolus]] ([[User talk:Carniolus|talk]]) 21:32, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
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+== box office ==
-==Reception section==
-This happens every time a fantasy, superhero or animated movie is released: Fans of the film only want this section to say "positive reviews" no matter what the aggregates and such say. Rotten Tomatoes says, "wonderfully animated and briskly paced, but it's only so-so in the storytelling department." That's not entirely positive. And Metacritic's weighted average was 57. That is decidedly middling. Given these two facts alone, it is inaccurate to say "positive reviews" and accurate to say "mixed to positive."
+Most films that fail to gross back more than triple of their budgets if they count domestic and foreign box offices are flops.
-We're supposed to discuss these things on Wikipedia and provide rationales for our edits. That last part is a requirement. Reverting to "positive" without discussion and without providing a rationale breaches that guideline and could conceivably be considered vandalism. --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 18:21, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
+--[[Special:Contributions/71.212.110.117|71.212.110.117]] ([[User talk:71.212.110.117|talk]]) 17:03, 25 March 2017 (UTC)Evan Kalani Opedal
+== Pitch Black ==
-:Obviously if the aggregators themselves don't agree then describing the reception as "positive" is not neutral. I have to admit I'm not a fan of the "mixed to positive" phrasing, but it's much more representative in this instance. [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ([[User talk:Betty Logan|talk]]) 21:36, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
+Can we include a picture of Pitch Black?
-'''Revisiting''' - The phrase "mixed to positive" is not encyclopedic, and more-so, isn't grammatically correct. "Mixed" in this context means "some positive some negative", right? A movie having "some positive some negative" to positive reviews makes no sense. Seeing as the film is definitely in favour of positive, the phrase "generally positive" should be the phrase used. Sorry to revisit this, it just makes my skin crawl to see "mixed to ___". If not this, make it just "mixed". Simpler that way too. '''[[User:Corvoe|<span style="font-family: Arial;color: #FF00FF">Corvoe</span>]]''' [[User talk:Corvoe|<span style="font-family: Arial;color: #FF00FF">(speak to me)]]</span> 01:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
+[[User:Tinka Hessenheffer|Tinka Hessenheffer]] ([[User talk:Tinka Hessenheffer|talk]]) 12:32, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
-:It's not an elegant phrase, but I'd disagree that it's not encyclopedic. The reason I say it's inelegant is that "mixed" in this context can have two meanings: That (as you note above) the sum of the aggregated reviews is "some negative, some positive." But the vast majority of movies receive "some negative, some positive" reviews (few receive total, unqualified praise or universal pans), so for most films one could say "mixed reviews."
-:This suggests to me  that what we're saying when we use the phrase "mixed to positive" is the second meaning of "mixed," which is that ''individual'' reviews were ambivalent &mdash; neither strongly negative nor strongly positive but, rather, mixed.
-:So in this context, the phrase means "ambivalent to positive" reviews. Maybe that would be more specific. I think, though, given the widespread use of "mixed to positive" and "mixed to negative" in film articles, that most editors understand it as that second meaning, "ambivalent." Thoughts? --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 18:55, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
-== Peter Ramsey ==
-There's no WP page for Director Peter Ramsey.  He's the first African-American director of an animated feature, so perhaps that is worth mentioning, if not giving good grounds for starting his own page?
-[[http://m.pressofatlanticcity.com/life/director-peter-ramsey-could-break-new-ground-in-hollywood/article_762079d8-1c95-5c28-98ee-d195d1df27cf.html]]
-[[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/pamela-mays-mcdonald/peter-ramsey-artist_b_1964661.html]]
---[[User:Davoloid|Davoloid]] ([[User talk:Davoloid|talk]]) 00:34, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
-Have added a page here: [[Peter Ramsey]] --[[User:Davoloid|Davoloid]] ([[User talk:Davoloid|talk]]) 16:26, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
-== Possible ==
-I don't think the mods should remove the sequel tab just because it seems unlikely. There's still a small chance as they haven't outright denied it yet.
-Plus, removing the sequel tab, when there is no absolute evidence of no seque, where in fact there have been talks, by the mods, kind of just shows that its just plain cynical  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/116.14.149.80|116.14.149.80]] ([[User talk:116.14.149.80|talk]]) 18:17, 17 March 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->