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==hagrids age==
he has to be like 60 or 70 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.82.110.73|72.82.110.73]] ([[User talk:72.82.110.73|talk]]) 16:30, 13 May 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Hagrid's house? ==

I don't remember any mention in the books of Hagrid being rumored to be Gryffindor. Sources? (Personally I suspect he's a Hufflepuff, but this is not, after all, Speculationpedia.) I've put it to "unknown" for now. [[User:Friday|Friday]] 16:52, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Hagrid's house, acording to JKR is Gryffindor.

http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/author/transcript2.htm

or

http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/2004/0304-wbd.htm

:Nope, neither of those links actually state that Hagrid is in Gryffindor. --[[User:Deathphoenix|Death]][[User_talk:Deathphoenix|'''phoenix''']] 19:56, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

I am sorry for my insiting on Hagrid's house without proof but I can now give you the accurate house by means of this website;

Why is Hagrid in the catogory "Gyffindors"?

:I saw the same. Mention of OTHER Gryffindors, yes. But no Hagrid. [[User:Friday|Friday]] 19:58, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

IN the first book, he says something like "Everyone thinks Hufflepuffs are wimps. I don't know what they're talking about, myself, I was a Hufflepuff"--[[User:SexyIrishLeprechaun|SexyIrishLeprechaun]] 12:03, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

::Very good. Page # please! --[[Special:Contributions/203.173.168.209|203.173.168.209]] ([[User talk:203.173.168.209|talk]]) 11:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

::He doesn't say anything about being Hufflepuff himself. I'll quote the sentence of Hagrid from the 1st book: "Everyone says Hufflepuff are a lot o’ duffers, but —" and in this moment Harry interrupts and says : "I bet I’m in Hufflepuff". <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/83.13.130.242|83.13.130.242]] ([[User talk:83.13.130.242|talk]]) 20:15, 7 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Head of House?==
When is Hagrid identified as being head of Gryffindor house? I'll remove that note unless someone can prove me wrong.--[[User:Lkjhgfdsa|Lkjhgfdsa]] 22:13, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm deleting the box that shows him as head of house after McGonagall becomes Headmistress. If there's proof of this, let me know and we can replace it. --[[User:Lkjhgfdsa|Lkjhgfdsa]] 20:53, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
we just think that he may but yes do delete it because it's speculatory stuff

:No, Hagrid is not head of Gryffindor house. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, he was expelled as a child from the school and is now groundskeeper.
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I am sorry for my insiting on Hagrid's house without proof but I can now give you the accurate house by means of this website;
http://www.harrypotterfanzone.com/?ID=jkrowling/transcripts/7&dir=Barnes%20and%20Nobel%20Chat

:According to [http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/2000/1000-livechat-barnesnoble.html this link], Hagrid was in Gryffindor. [[User:Hermione1980|Hermione]]'''[[User talk:Hermione1980|1980]]''' 20:35, 31 July 2005 (UTC)


Much better. Thank you, folks. :-) --[[User:Deathphoenix|Death]][[User_talk:Deathphoenix|'''phoenix''']] 21:38, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

I think the books are canon tho, and there's definately a mention of Hagrid being in Hufflepuff in the first book. --[[User:SexyIrishLeprechaun|SexyIrishLeprechaun]] 12:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:Anything directly reported by the author is also canon, as are the Comic Relief books. I believe the order of precedence goes:
:# The 7 novels & anything directly said by JKR
:# The Comic Relief books
:# The films
:# The video games (questionable?)
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== Birthday ==

Where did 1928 come from? [[User:Enochlau|Enochlau]] 09:09, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, in CoS, set in 1992, Hagrid was a third year fifty years ago. Take away the 50 years from 1992 makes 1942. Hagrid was third year (13 years old) then, so subtract another 13 years to make 1929. I don't know where the other year came from, but perhaps like Hermione, his birthday is early and thus was 14 in the majority of third year ...
To sum up,
CoS : 1992
Hagrid at Hogwarts - 50 years: 1942
Hagrid 14 years old, - 14 years: 1928

[[User:Squidward2602|Squidward2602]] 15:24, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

: Very interesting, thank you. [[User:Enochlau|Enochlau]] 23:25, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

::Found a better more official like timeline - [http://www.hp-lexicon.org/timelines/timeline_hagrid.html] [[User:Squidward2602|Squidward2602]] 17:59, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

:::To clarify: was in his third year 1942/43. First 1940/1. Had to be 11 before 1 Sept 1940 - therefore, Dec 1939. Born Dec 1928. He was NOT 13 at the time chamber opening, he was 14 (I - now - understand the reference to his being 13 above, but it set me entirely wrong at first). <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Michaelsanders|Michaelsanders]] ([[User talk:Michaelsanders|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Michaelsanders|contribs]]) 23:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

== Quote ==

The Hagrid quote in the article seems to have no context whatsoever. Could it be given some context or removed, please?


==Missing info from Actor sentence==
"Hagrid is played by [[Scotland|Scottish]] [[actor]] [[Robbie Coltrane]], and, in some shots where Hagrid's height needs to be emphasised."

This doesn't make sense, so I've commented out everything after Robie Coltrane. I suspect that something like the name of another actor is missing here. I've not been able to find what it is from a quick look at the history though. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] 21:57, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

== Edit ==

The last sentence of the intro was confusing: did the writer mean that he was first to be introduced to Harry before his coming to school, or before he became his teacher? If its the latter, Harry did not officially meet his teachers (save Quirrell in Stone, Lupin in Azkaban, the fake Moody in Goblet, Umbridge in Phoenix and Slughorn in Prince) until he got to school. I rewrote it with the first view in mind.--[[User:Aaronhumes|Aaronhumes]] 20:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Under the section Fouth to Sixth Books, there appears to be a word missing from the second to last sentence. "Later in the book, Alastor Moody (impersonated by Barty Crouch Jr) suggests Hagrid should show Harry that the first task of the would involve dragons." The word tournament should be added between the words the and would. --[[User:Valueofpi|Valueofpi]] ([[User talk:Valueofpi|talk]]) 19:26, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
:{{done}}! -- <small><font color="0000C8">THE</font> <font color="black">[[User:The dark lord trombonator|'''DARK LORD''']]</font> <font color="0000C8">[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|TROMBONATOR]]</font></small> 21:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

== Hagrid's Pets section ==

The Hagrid's Pets section is long enough to be its own article. Shouldn't it be broken off? -[[User:Phi*n!x|Phi]]*[[User talk:Phi*n!x|n!x]] 14:57, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Should we include the Threstrals
i'll add that as a maybe saince he is a creature person

No, as the thestrals don't "belong" to Hagrid, and if you were to put them in, you would have to put every animal in the forbidden forest in. The thestrals belong to Hogwarts
[[User:Loopywelshemz|Loopywelshemz]] 21:12, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Titles ==

Are gamekeeper and keeper of keys actually different positions? We've got two succession boxes now, and it looks cluttered, and my impression was that Hagrid is referred to as one or the other during the series interchangeably, but not in a manner suggesting that he's been double-hatted or anything. [[User:Scharferimage|Scharferimage]] 03:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

It has always been my impression that they are the same thing. The Keeper of Keys is just a fancier title for it since he will mostly likely have the keys to all outdoor buildings and gates of Hogwarts (most noticabally, the main gates).[[User:81.151.137.252|81.151.137.252]] 20:11, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
== Hagrid's House ==
In Hogwarts Houses page, Hagrid is listed as a Ravenclaw. What's up?

I think there was something about Hagrid being in Gryffindor in one of the movies or books because I'm pretty sure he is a Gryffindor.

::He was a hufflepuff. - [[User:Amog|<font color="#02b">Amog</font>]] |<sup>[[User talk:Amog|T<font color="red">a</font><font color="green">l</font><font color="black">k</font>]]</sup> 08:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Norbert to return for Book 7 ==

Norbert the dragon is set to return for this book, as an important part of the plot.

There is no proof of this except that there is a dragon on the deluxe US cover of Harry Potter And the Deathly Hallows that may or may not be Norbert. And since we don't know what he looks like now this dragon might not be Norbert at. [[User:Newboy123|Newboy123]] 18:25, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

==Hagrid's Death???==

Someone has stated Hagrid will die in the final book. I would like to see some proof otherwise removed from the article. [[User:JustShin|JustShin]] 04:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

some1 should put spoilers on these discussions, cuse soon ppl r gonna start blabbing bout stuff

::No, Hagrid does not die in the final movie, however, I am not yet on the last book so I'm not sure if it says otherwise. [[User:Lovecherry|Lovecherry]] ([[User talk:Lovecherry|talk]]) 07:04, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

== Successions Box ==

Rubeus Hagrid does not die in the final Harry Potter book. At the end he is alive and well even after falling into Lord Voldemort's clutches.

== Grawp the pet??? ==

I disagree with Grawp being considered a pet of Hagrid's. Grawp is Hagrid's half brother and should not be labeled a pet.

== Magical Staus ==

Something has always confussed me is why has Hagrid not been given the right to parctise magic again after being cleared of opening the chamber or has he and has just not bothered to get a new wand.
Could any one naswer this question

:Hagrid was expelled during his 3rd year at hogwarts and thus is not sufficently qualified to preform magic; His wand is hidden in his umbrella, which he can therefore use as a wand. --[[User:124.197.54.130|124.197.54.130]] 15:12, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

== A thank you. ==

To whoever reversed what Grawp the Giant did. Since we cannot assume good faith, may we ban his IP address? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.255.90.147|69.255.90.147]] ([[User talk:69.255.90.147|talk]]) 06:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I've put in a request at the admin noticeboard. [[User:Faithlessthewonderboy|<span style="color:blue">'''faithless'''</span>]] [[User talk:Faithlessthewonderboy|<small><span style="color:black">(<sup>'''speak'''</sup>)</span></small>]] 07:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
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== What's up with Fang? ==

Is anyone else getting the image of an Asian woman in Fang's infobox? [[User:Keyblade Mage|Keyblade Mage]] 22:43, 19 September 2007 (UTC)Keyblade Mage
:Someone thought they were being clever. I've fixed it. [[User:Faithlessthewonderboy|<span style="color:blue">'''faithless'''</span>]] [[User talk:Faithlessthewonderboy|<small><span style="color:black">(<sup>'''speak'''</sup>)</span></small>]] 01:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

u r krazy Asian woman? I don't think the question is what's up with fang I think the question is what's up with you're head? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.53.12.59|64.53.12.59]] ([[User talk:64.53.12.59|talk]]) 17:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:No one is crazy. It was vandalism or perhaps a mistake that faithless corrected [http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/archive/2/22/20070920013022%21Fang.jpg] [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 07:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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== Hagrid's pets ==

I moved [[Talk:Hagrid's pets]] here (except for {{tl|WPHP}}) and demoted each heading below. [[Special:Contributions/210.50.104.63|210.50.104.63]] ([[User talk:210.50.104.63|talk]]) 10:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

=== Fluffy ===

I moved [[Talk:Fluffy (Harry Potter)]] here then added the "Fluffy" heading above and made the following heading be one level down from before. [[User:Brianjd|Brianjd]] 09:25, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)

==== Flute given by Hagrid? ====

''[[Harry Potter|Harry]], [[Ron Weasley|Ron]] and [[Hermione Granger|Hermione]] used a [[flute]] that had been given to Harry by Hagrid.''

Was this in the book? It definitely wasn't in the movie. The article seems to imply that Fluffy was only important in book 1. [[User:Brianjd|Brianjd]] 08:05, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC)

:Yes it was. In the book, Harry, Ron and Hermione used a flute that was given to Harry by [[Hagrid]] for Christmas to lull Fluffy to sleep. They did see a harp left behind by Quirrell, but it didn't continue to play as it did in the film. Fluffy ''was'' only important in the first book/film, considering he hasn't been seen since.

::Actually, in the film, they had to jump into the hole when it stopped playing unexpectedly. [[User:Brianjd|Brianjd]] 08:41, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)

:::''Actually, in the film, they had to jump into the hole when it stopped playing unexpectedly.'' While true, may I ask how this is relevant?

i dont remember the harp in the book at all he didnt give it to him just to lull him to sleep. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Greeknoitall234|Greeknoitall234]] ([[User talk:Greeknoitall234|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Greeknoitall234|contribs]]) 23:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==== As his name suggests... ====
''As his name suggests, Fluffy belongs to [[Hagrid]], who got him from a Greek person he met in a [[public house|pub]].''

Huh? [[User:Brianjd|Brianjd]] 09:52, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)

:Well, Hagrid's partically the only person on Earth who would name a giant three-headed monster "Fluffy."

=== Categories ===

[[:Category:Fictional dogs]] and [[:Category:Fictional dragons]] are appropriate categories. The original pages ([[Fang (Harry Potter)]] and [[Norbert (Harry Potter)]]) were under them, weren't they? [[User:Brianjd|Brianjd]] 09:33, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)

:But Norbert and Aragog aren't dogs. I think it would be prudent to stick to the categories all the entries fall into.

::But then the categories are incomplete. What was wrong with the way it was before these articles were merged? [[User:Brianjd|Brianjd]] 09:46, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)

:::Just my opinin, but adding categories that don't apply to everything makes the page look cluttered. Before they were merged, the category applied to the whole page, but now they do not.

== What is up with this article? ==

I find it common to bump into people like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Luke_Organa this], who always use "hagger" or link to this page. Is there some type of cult fan following here or something? I'm just curious. <b><font face="Arial" color="1F860E">[[User:DigitalNinja|Digital]]</font><font color="20038A"><sup>[[User:DigitalNinja|Ninja]]</sup></font></b> 15:12, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
:Go to [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and search for Hagger. That should explain it. (I can't provide a link, as ED is blacklisted. There has been much dramaz on WP concerning ED.) Be advised, ED contains very graphic content. It's not for the squeamish. [[User:Faithlessthewonderboy|<span style="color:blue">'''faithless'''</span>]] [[User talk:Faithlessthewonderboy|<small><span style="color:black">(<sup>'''speak'''</sup>)</span></small>]] 22:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::I'd been wondering the same thing myself, DigitalNinja. Wikipedia doesn't do "shrines to vandals" so thanks for the info, Faithless... and also thanks for that warning... :/ -- <small><font color="0000C8">THE</font> <font color="black">[[User:The dark lord trombonator|'''DARK LORD''']]</font> <font color="0000C8">[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|TROMBONATOR]]</font></small> 21:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

== Error in paragraph on expulsion ==
I have started reading the books and you actually learn that Hagrid has been expelled at the end of chapter 4 in Sorcerer's Stone not the second book. Here all you learn is that he was expelled in his third year and that AD kept him on as gamekeeper. The second book may flesh it out more - not there yet, obviously.

== Copy Editing ==

This article needs some serious copy editing work. There are numerous grammatical errors and several sentences and paragraphs that are poorly written. For example there is one sentence that uses the word "latter" without it actually referring to anything. Whoever has locked this article and has access to working on it needs to take responsibility on the copy-editing. It's really a very bad example for the impressionable children who read these books and look to these referential articles for information only to come away with a worse grasp on grammar, proper sentence structure, and overall good examples of writing. Children learn how to write by reading from such resources as Wikipedia, and right now Wikipedia is doing them a great disservice by miseducating them in articles such as this. By no means is the whole article badly written; I am not saying that at all. However, there are enough mistakes and areas that require work that the topic needed to be raised.--[[Special:Contributions/74.235.39.50|74.235.39.50]] ([[User talk:74.235.39.50|talk]]) 18:58, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

== Source/ meaning of his name ==

Hagrid or Hag-rid is a colloquialism for 'out of sorts'; the terms's orginal folk meaning is cursed(i.e. ridden by a hag or witch), you can do seperate resarch to verify this. I have taken this out of book, quite ironic, though three names from the Harry Potter series were all put on the same page and chapter of the book The Mayor of Casterbridge(chapter 20). those names are dumbeldore, hag-rid, and Minerva. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/109.110.96.21|109.110.96.21]] ([[User talk:109.110.96.21|talk]]) 18:20, 26 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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