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https://www.sapiens.org/archaeology/woodstock-archaeology/ Archaeology used to better understand certain aspects of the affair, such as lcoations. [[User:Kdammers|Kdammers]] ([[User talk:Kdammers|talk]]) 09:30, 18 November 2019 (UTC) |
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== Youngest performer at Woodstock == |
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--[[User:Unklscrufy|Unklscrufy]] ([[User talk:Unklscrufy|talk]]) 18:20, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Many people believed that Michael Shrieve of Santana was the youngest performer at Woodstock because he looked young. In fact, Henry Gross of Sha Na Na was two years younger than Shrieve. This really isn't controversial. My source is an interview with Gross from last August. It's only one of any number of sources that say the same thing. Or you could...oh, I don't know...look at their Wikipedia pages and compare their birthdates. I don't know what the fuss is about. Please stop reverting my edit. |
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:Your source only reports what Gross claims. We need independent [[WP:SECONDARY]] sources. That's what is provided for Shrieve. In any event, please get [[WP:CON|consensus]] for this change instead of edit warring. Pinging {{u|FlightTime}}. [[User:Sundayclose|Sundayclose]] ([[User talk:Sundayclose|talk]]) 01:16, 21 April 2020 (UTC) |
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:I've added a different source this time. The source for Shrieve that you mentioned is a Rolling Stone article that says he was the youngest performer at Woodstock. My source is an interview with Shrieve that says he was the second-youngest performer. I don't know how either source is more reliable than the other, but they can't both be right. According to their own Wikipedia articles (unless you're disputing those, too), Shrieve was born July 6, 1949 and Henry Gross was born April 1, 1951. Woodstock was in mid-August 1969, at which time Shrieve was 20 years old and Gross was 18 years old. This isn't edit warring; I'm attempting to make a very simple correction. [[User:Unklscrufy|Unklscrufy]] |
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::I don't consider either source superior to the other. As such, I'm removing the "youngest" statement for both Shrieve and Gross, effectively reverting the part of my own edit that adds Shrieve. Please don't restore either one of them without consensus. And a reminder: the place to discuss this issue is here, not in edit summaries for the article. Edit warring isn't determined by whether you're right or wrong; it results from multiple reverts without consensus. See [[WP:EW]]. Thanks for your input. Pinging {{u|FlightTime}}. [[User:Sundayclose|Sundayclose]] ([[User talk:Sundayclose|talk]]) 14:57, 21 April 2020 (UTC) |
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:The only source needed is a calendar. 1949 came before 1951. And if you're done, I'm done. [[User:Unklscrufy|Unklscrufy]] ([[User talk:Unklscrufy|talk]]) 11:22, 24 April 2020 (UTC) |
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::Sorry, but when two reliable sources conflict, you need more than a calendar. Your assumption is that a source is infallible about every detail, and determining where the error is in the source could very well have nothing to do with years of birth. There is only one way to overcome this impasse. Get consensus, ideally based on the weight of opinion of well sourced experts. [[User:Sundayclose|Sundayclose]] ([[User talk:Sundayclose|talk]]) 16:09, 24 April 2020 (UTC) |
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== Creedence Clearwater Revival start time? == |
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[[Woodstock#Planning and preparation]] says, "Given their 3 a.m. start time and omission from the Woodstock film (at Creedence frontman John Fogerty's insistence), Creedence members have expressed bitterness over their experiences regarding the festival." |
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[[Woodstock#Festival]] quotes John Fogerty "recalling Creedence Clearwater Revival's 3:30 a.m. start time at Woodstock". |
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== [[Woodstock Sound-Outs]] == |
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[[Woodstock#Performing artists]] and [[List of performances and events at Woodstock Festival#Creedence Clearwater Revival]] both say that Creedence Clearwater Revival's performance started at 12:30 a.m. |
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Both this article's section ''Planning and preparation'' as well as the own article for the other series of festivals at Woodstock need further work on how the two actually related. According to [[Woodstock Sound-Outs]], Michael Lang said "the Sound-Outs were kind of the spark for the Woodstock festival ''[...]'' it provided all the guidelines that I needed, and I was sort of thinking of a broader event but with the same kind of emotional impact." Also, [[Woodstock Sound-Outs]] is really lacking in the actual dates of the Sound-Outs, only saying that they took place annually (in Spring?) in 1967, 1968, 1969, and 1970. With its lack of clear data, that other article almost makes it appear as if the 1969 version of the Sound-Out actually *WAS* the famous Woodstock festival, when certainly it wasn't. --[[Special:Contributions/2003:DA:CF15:5092:4456:2D1E:D3C3:8B01|2003:DA:CF15:5092:4456:2D1E:D3C3:8B01]] ([[User talk:2003:DA:CF15:5092:4456:2D1E:D3C3:8B01|talk]]) 03:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC) |
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This is a big discrepancy. Did they go on at 12:30 a.m., 3 a.m., or 3:30 a.m.? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 04:19, 8 June 2021 (UTC) |
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Both this article's section Planning and preparation as well as the own article for the other series of festivals at Woodstock need further work on how the two actually related. According to Woodstock Sound-Outs, Michael Lang said "the Sound-Outs were kind of the spark for the Woodstock festival [...] it provided all the guidelines that I needed, and I was sort of thinking of a broader event but with the same kind of emotional impact." Also, Woodstock Sound-Outs is really lacking in the actual dates of the Sound-Outs, only saying that they took place annually (in Spring?) in 1967, 1968, 1969, and 1970. With its lack of clear data, that other article almost makes it appear as if the 1969 version of the Sound-Out actually *WAS* the famous Woodstock festival, when certainly it wasn't. --2003:DA:CF15:5092:4456:2D1E:D3C3:8B01 (talk) 03:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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