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{{Short description|American football player (1886–1953)}} |
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|position1= [[Fullback (American football)|Fullback]] / [[Quarterback]] / [[Head coach]] |
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| position = [[Quarterback|Blocking back]] |
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| birth_date = {{Birth date|1886|5|7}} |
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|birth_place=[[Roscoe, Pennsylvania]] |
| birth_place = [[Roscoe, Pennsylvania]], U.S. |
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| death_date = {{Death date and age|1953|8|3|1886|5|7}} |
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|College=[[Penn State Nittany Lions football|Penn State]]<br>[[West Virginia Mountaineers football|West Virginia]] |
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| college = [[West Virginia Mountaineers football|West Virginia]] (1907)<br/>[[Penn State Nittany Lions football|Penn State]] (1912–1914) |
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|playing_years = 1915-1919<br>1920-1921 |
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|playing_teams= [[Youngstown Patricians]]<br>[[Akron Pros]] |
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|coaching_years= 1920-1921 |
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* [[Akron Pros]] ({{NFL Year|1920}}–{{NFL Year|1921}}) |
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* [[West Virginia Mountaineers football|West Virginia]] (1915)<br/>Assistant coach |
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* West Virginia (1916–1917)<br/>Assistant head coach |
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* [[Akron Pros]] ({{NFL Year|1920}}–{{NFL Year|1921}})<br/>Head coach |
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* Coaching record: 16-3-4 |
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| overall_record = {{Winning percentage|16|3|4|record=y}} |
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'''Elza Williams "Elgie" Tobin''' (May 7, 1886 – September 3, 1953) was a professional [[American football]] player with the independent [[Youngstown Patricians]], and a [[player-coach]] with the [[Akron Pros]] of the American Professional Football Association (renamed the [[National Football League]] in 1922) where he wore number 8.<ref>{{cite web|last=Maxymuk|first=John|title=Uniform Numbers of the NFL: Pre-1933 Defunct Teams|url=http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~maxymuk/home/ongoing/akron.html|work=Paul Robeson Library|publisher=Rutgers University|accessdate=June 5, 2011|date=July 18, 2007}}</ref> |
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==Biography== |
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Tobin was slated to coach a proposed Youngstown team granted by the National Football League in 1922. However the project died in the planning stages. |
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Prior to playing professional football, Tobin played [[college football]] at [[Pennsylvania State University]] and [[West Virginia University]]. He [[Letterman (sports)|lettered]] in football for the Mountaineers in 1907. At Penn State, where records list him as "Yegg Tobin", he lettered for three years (1912, 1913, 1914). The [[1912 Penn State Nittany Lions football team|1912 Penn State team]] compiled a record of 8-0, and has retroactively been recognized as national champion by the [[National Championship Foundation]], though most other selectors have named the 9-0 [[1912 Harvard Crimson football team|Harvard team]] as national champion.<ref name="ncaabook">{{cite book | url=http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2020/FBS.pdf | title=2020 NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Records | publisher=The National Collegiate Athletic Association | pages=112–114 | date=July 2020 | location=Indianapolis | access-date=January 12, 2021 | archive-date=November 1, 2020 | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201101032438/http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2020/FBS.pdf | url-status=live }}</ref> He was team captain of the [[1914 Penn State Nittany Lions football team|1914 Penn State team]].<ref name="maxymuk"/> |
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Tobin played with Patricians from 1915 until 1919, while serving as an assistant coach for West Virginia.<ref name="maxymuk">{{cite book |last1=Maxymuk |first1=John |title=NFL Head Coaches: A Biographical Dictionary, 1920-2011 |date=August 12, 2012 |publisher=McFarland |isbn=9780786465576 |pages=399–400}}</ref> When the Patricians folded, Tobin joined the Akron Pros of the newly formed AFPA. In [[1920 NFL season|1920]], Tobin coached the Pros to a record of 8 wins, 0 losses and 3 ties, winning the first ever [[List of NFL champions (1920–1969)|NFL Championship]].<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/TobiEl0.htm|title = Elgie Tobin Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks| website=[[Pro-Football-Reference.com]] }}</ref> The very next season, he split the team's coaching duties with [[Fritz Pollard]], making Pollard the first [[African-American]] coach in the NFL. The [[1921 Akron Pros season|1921 Akron Pros]] started the year 7–0, but finished in third place with an 8–3–1 record. |
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Prior to playing professional football, Tobin played [[college football]] at [[Penn State University|Penn State]] and [[West Virginia University|West Virginia]]. He [[Letterman (sports)|lettered]] in football for the Mountaineers in 1907. At Penn State, where records list him as "Yegg Tobin," he lettered for three years (1912, 1913, 1914). |
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Tobin left the Pros after 1921 and was slated to coach a new Youngstown team in the National Football League, but the project died in the planning stages. He later served as player-coach of the semi-professional Elco Sterlings and worked at [[Republic Steel]].<ref name="maxymuk"/> |
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==Notes== |
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Including his time as co-head coach of the Pros in 1921, Tobin holds a winning percentage of .842, the highest of all APFA/NFL coaches to coach at least two seasons.<ref>{{cite web |title=Coaches, Records, and Coaching Totals |url=https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ |website=Pro Football Reference |access-date=January 15, 2023}}</ref> |
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*{{cite journal | title=The Story of the Patricians | journal=Coffin Corner | publisher=Professional Football Researchers Association | volume=1 | issue=4 | year=1979 | pages=1–3 | url=http://www.profootballresearchers.org/Coffin_Corner/01-04-005.pdf | first=Vic | last=Frolund}} |
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| SHORT DESCRIPTION = Player of American Football |
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| DATE OF BIRTH = May 8, 1886 |
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| PLACE OF BIRTH = Roscoe, Pennsylvania |
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[[Category:Penn State Nittany Lions football players]] |
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Born: | Roscoe, Pennsylvania, U.S. | May 7, 1886||||||
Died: | August 3, 1953 | (aged 67)||||||
Height: | 5 ft 9 in (1.75 m) | ||||||
Weight: | 180 lb (82 kg) | ||||||
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High school: | Coal Center (PA) California | ||||||
College: | West Virginia (1907) Penn State (1912–1914) | ||||||
Position: | Blocking back | ||||||
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Career: | 16–3–4 (.783) | ||||||
Record at Pro Football Reference |
Elza Williams "Elgie" Tobin (May 7, 1886 – September 3, 1953) was a professional American football player with the independent Youngstown Patricians, and a player-coach with the Akron Pros of the American Professional Football Association (renamed the National Football League in 1922) where he wore number 8.[1]
Biography
[edit]Prior to playing professional football, Tobin played college football at Pennsylvania State University and West Virginia University. He lettered in football for the Mountaineers in 1907. At Penn State, where records list him as "Yegg Tobin", he lettered for three years (1912, 1913, 1914). The 1912 Penn State team compiled a record of 8-0, and has retroactively been recognized as national champion by the National Championship Foundation, though most other selectors have named the 9-0 Harvard team as national champion.[2] He was team captain of the 1914 Penn State team.[3]
Tobin played with Patricians from 1915 until 1919, while serving as an assistant coach for West Virginia.[3] When the Patricians folded, Tobin joined the Akron Pros of the newly formed AFPA. In 1920, Tobin coached the Pros to a record of 8 wins, 0 losses and 3 ties, winning the first ever NFL Championship.[4] The very next season, he split the team's coaching duties with Fritz Pollard, making Pollard the first African-American coach in the NFL. The 1921 Akron Pros started the year 7–0, but finished in third place with an 8–3–1 record.
Tobin left the Pros after 1921 and was slated to coach a new Youngstown team in the National Football League, but the project died in the planning stages. He later served as player-coach of the semi-professional Elco Sterlings and worked at Republic Steel.[3]
Including his time as co-head coach of the Pros in 1921, Tobin holds a winning percentage of .842, the highest of all APFA/NFL coaches to coach at least two seasons.[5]
References
[edit]- ^ Maxymuk, John (July 18, 2007). "Uniform Numbers of the NFL: Pre-1933 Defunct Teams". Paul Robeson Library. Rutgers University. Retrieved June 5, 2011.
- ^ 2020 NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Records (PDF). Indianapolis: The National Collegiate Athletic Association. July 2020. pp. 112–114. Archived (PDF) from the original on November 1, 2020. Retrieved January 12, 2021.
- ^ a b c Maxymuk, John (August 12, 2012). NFL Head Coaches: A Biographical Dictionary, 1920-2011. McFarland. pp. 399–400. ISBN 9780786465576.
- ^ "Elgie Tobin Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks". Pro-Football-Reference.com.
- ^ "Coaches, Records, and Coaching Totals". Pro Football Reference. Retrieved January 15, 2023.
- 1886 births
- 1953 deaths
- American football quarterbacks
- American football fullbacks
- Akron Pros players
- Akron Pros coaches
- Penn State Nittany Lions football players
- West Virginia Mountaineers football coaches
- West Virginia Mountaineers football players
- Youngstown Patricians players
- Players of American football from Washington County, Pennsylvania