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== POW ==
Were he and his men not imprisoned as POWs after their surrender? There is no explanation how he got back to the north. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.123.85.116|71.123.85.116]] ([[User talk:71.123.85.116|talk]]) 09:33, 7 June 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: The Confederates simply wanted the Federals out of the fort. To take them as prisoners of war would've been to admit (or declare) that they were beginning a war, I guess. Whatever the reason, the Fort Sumter garrison was given transport on a Confederate ship to the Union resupply fleet. You can read more of it in the Battle of Fort Sumter article. [[Special:Contributions/66.223.175.71|66.223.175.71]] ([[User talk:66.223.175.71|talk]]) 03:05, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
::Excellent question. The article should certainly cover the fact that he was not held, and they were allowed to return to the north. Glaring ommission. [[User:Venqax|Venqax]] ([[User talk:Venqax|talk]]) 17:18, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

==Untitled==
*'''[[Major Robert Anderson]] → [[Robert Anderson (soldier)]]''' —(''[[{{{4|Talk}}}
:Major Robert Anderson|Discuss]]'')— —[[User:Aldis90|Aldis90]] 05:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Should this page be moved to [[Robert Anderson (civil war)]] or something similar? From what I understand of [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions]], we shouldn't be using titles in page names... but there are an awful lot of other Robert Andersons out there. [[User:Jrp|JRP]] 03:51, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
Should this page be moved to [[Robert Anderson (civil war)]] or something similar? From what I understand of [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions]], we shouldn't be using titles in page names... but there are an awful lot of other Robert Andersons out there. [[User:Jrp|JRP]] 03:51, 10 August 2005 (UTC)


== Date of death ==
== Date of death ==

Has this article got the correct date of death. Anderson was buried in New York March 26 1862. Seems like a long time between death and burial.
Has this article got the correct date of death. Anderson was buried in New York March 26 1862. Seems like a long time between death and burial.


: Date verified using the Eicher reference. Perhaps the delay before burial was because he died in France. [[User:Hlj|Hal Jespersen]] 21:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
: Date verified using the Eicher reference. Perhaps the delay before burial was because he died in France. [[User:Hlj|Hal Jespersen]] 21:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== disambiguation ==
The disambiguation here is absurd. This Robert Anderson rose to be a general just as much as the other one. I think we should disambiguate by dates, rather than this artificial determination that this Robert Anderson is better known as a major, and the other as a general. [[User:John Kenney|john k]] ([[User talk:John Kenney|talk]]) 02:37, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

: "Absurd" is a word better reserved for cases more extreme than this, IMHO, but '(major)' was chosen when the article was renamed from ''Major Robert Anderson'', which is pretty common usage in describing the man. He did one overwhelmingly famous thing in his life and that was as a major. If alternative reasonable disambigs make you feel better, go ahead. [[User:Hlj|Hal Jespersen]] ([[User talk:Hlj|talk]]) 14:53, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
:: Agree that the current title isn't very good. Perhaps [[Robert Anderson (Fort Sumter)]] or [[Robert Anderson (1805-1871)]] [[User:Cladeal832|Cladeal832]] ([[User talk:Cladeal832|talk]]) 20:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== This article is too glossy and omits important details ==
I think it's pretty ridiculous how this article glosses over his surrender at Fort Sumter. By omitting that information, the section indirectly suggests that it was a victory since Anderson is only praised for his presence at the Fort in the preceding text. This article feels like it was written as Union propaganda or perhaps by a direct descendant of Anderson.

I've never edited a wiki article and am not a civil war buff. Therefore, I don't feel comfortable adding the information myself.

== Link with Montgomery Clift ==
Clift's mother was descended from Anderson. This connection might be detailed under 'Personal Life'. [[User:Valetude|Valetude]] ([[User talk:Valetude|talk]]) 12:50, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

== Bad title ==
This article has a bad title, it needs moved to something else. "Robert Anderson (Civil War)" is ambiguous with [[Robert H. Anderson]], who was also a Robert Anderson who fought in the Civil War. [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] <sub> [[User talk:Hog Farm|Bacon]]</sub> 03:36, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

== Category:American slave owners ==
No mention of slave-owning. I feel that this category should be restricted to people whose slave-owning history was notable in itself. [[User:Valetude|Valetude]] ([[User talk:Valetude|talk]]) 13:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

:Agreed. Most prominent people in world history probably owned slaves or something close. Slavery was common way before the US. No need to note it unless it's relevant to their notability. [[User:Venqax|Venqax]] ([[User talk:Venqax|talk]]) 14:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 14:07, 25 July 2024

POW

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Were he and his men not imprisoned as POWs after their surrender? There is no explanation how he got back to the north. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.123.85.116 (talk) 09:33, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Confederates simply wanted the Federals out of the fort. To take them as prisoners of war would've been to admit (or declare) that they were beginning a war, I guess. Whatever the reason, the Fort Sumter garrison was given transport on a Confederate ship to the Union resupply fleet. You can read more of it in the Battle of Fort Sumter article. 66.223.175.71 (talk) 03:05, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent question. The article should certainly cover the fact that he was not held, and they were allowed to return to the north. Glaring ommission. Venqax (talk) 17:18, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled

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Major Robert Anderson|Discuss]])— —Aldis90 05:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should this page be moved to Robert Anderson (civil war) or something similar? From what I understand of Wikipedia:Naming conventions, we shouldn't be using titles in page names... but there are an awful lot of other Robert Andersons out there. JRP 03:51, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Date of death

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Has this article got the correct date of death. Anderson was buried in New York March 26 1862. Seems like a long time between death and burial.

Date verified using the Eicher reference. Perhaps the delay before burial was because he died in France. Hal Jespersen 21:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

disambiguation

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The disambiguation here is absurd. This Robert Anderson rose to be a general just as much as the other one. I think we should disambiguate by dates, rather than this artificial determination that this Robert Anderson is better known as a major, and the other as a general. john k (talk) 02:37, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Absurd" is a word better reserved for cases more extreme than this, IMHO, but '(major)' was chosen when the article was renamed from Major Robert Anderson, which is pretty common usage in describing the man. He did one overwhelmingly famous thing in his life and that was as a major. If alternative reasonable disambigs make you feel better, go ahead. Hal Jespersen (talk) 14:53, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agree that the current title isn't very good. Perhaps Robert Anderson (Fort Sumter) or Robert Anderson (1805-1871) Cladeal832 (talk) 20:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article is too glossy and omits important details

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I think it's pretty ridiculous how this article glosses over his surrender at Fort Sumter. By omitting that information, the section indirectly suggests that it was a victory since Anderson is only praised for his presence at the Fort in the preceding text. This article feels like it was written as Union propaganda or perhaps by a direct descendant of Anderson.

I've never edited a wiki article and am not a civil war buff. Therefore, I don't feel comfortable adding the information myself.

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Clift's mother was descended from Anderson. This connection might be detailed under 'Personal Life'. Valetude (talk) 12:50, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bad title

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This article has a bad title, it needs moved to something else. "Robert Anderson (Civil War)" is ambiguous with Robert H. Anderson, who was also a Robert Anderson who fought in the Civil War. Hog Farm Bacon 03:36, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American slave owners

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No mention of slave-owning. I feel that this category should be restricted to people whose slave-owning history was notable in itself. Valetude (talk) 13:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Most prominent people in world history probably owned slaves or something close. Slavery was common way before the US. No need to note it unless it's relevant to their notability. Venqax (talk) 14:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]