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== Requested move ==

[[File:Farm-Fresh eye.png|15px|link=|alt=]] A move has been requested for this article at [[Talk:Super_Smash_Bros._(series)#Requested_moves]] <span style='font:1.1em"Avenir";padding:1px 3px;border:1px solid #909;color:#909'>czar&nbsp;[[User:Czar|<span style="color:#909"><u>♔</u></span>]]</span> 20:34, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

==Move discussion in progress==
There is a move discussion in progress on [[Talk:Super Smash Bros. (series)#Requested moves |Talk:Super Smash Bros. (series)]] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:Super Smash Bros. (series) crosspost --> —[[User:RMCD bot|RMCD bot]] 20:45, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

== smashwiki says ==

Dragon King: The Fighting Game was supposed be the first installment in a planned series of fighting video games for the Nintendo 64, with the game also being designed to make unique use of the joystick on the controller; unlike other games which took advantage of the analogue stick, like Super Mario 64 or The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Sakurai wanted to see how he could use it in a multiplayer environment. Sakurai was also interested in creating a fighting game experience that involved four players fighting at once, instead of the standard one-on-one format seen in most of the era's fighting games. During preliminary development for the game, however, Sakurai felt that the game lacked the appropriate atmosphere for a fighting game on a home console, stating that the characters he had planned for inclusion in the game seemed too similar to one another; while he thought this would be acceptable in an arcade setting, he felt that games for home consoles would need better depth in order to captivate its audience. As a result, Sakurai scrapped most of the original concepts for the game and instead added elements from multiple existing Nintendo franchises. The game was ultimately retooled into Super Smash Bros., which became an unexpected success; the game later spawned a successful series of games, with multiple new installments having since been released. [[User:Valehd|Valehd]] ([[User talk:Valehd|talk]]) 23:30, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

:SmashWiki isn't considered a reliable source. [[User:TheMeaningOfBlah|TheMeaningOfBlah]] ([[User talk:TheMeaningOfBlah|talk]]) 15:37, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
::but that paragraph is true [[User:Valehd|Valehd]] ([[User talk:Valehd|talk]]) 16:13, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

== Translation of title ==

From my user talk page:
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Then the [[Super Smash Bros. (video game)]] article should be changed to "Fray" as well. The point is that the translated series name doesn't conflict with the English name of one of the games in the series. An article being denoted a good article doesn't necessarily mean all translations in the article are optimal. [[User:Zowayix001|Zowayix001]] ([[User talk:Zowayix001|talk]]) 02:44, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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I don't find "conflicting with the English name" to be a compelling reason, given that it's not the English name, but the English translation of the Japanese name with which we are dealing. Regards being a GA, it seems preferable to keep the current translation since that name has undergone quality review (though I agree any particular fact in the article may be sub-optimally worded, placed, etc--it is still a wiki). I will ping [[WT:VG]]. --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 18:23, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
: What do secondary sources call it? Also the whole Japanese portion of the lede should be relegated to a footnote—it isn't known by its Japanese name at all in English-speaking places and the first sentence of the lede is prime real estate. <span style="background:#F0F0FF; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em Avenir;color:#B048B5'>czar</span>]]</span> 18:36, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
::Not likely to have a good answer to the first question; no opinion on the second point. --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 18:48, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
:::There's [[WP:USEENGLISH]] and [[WP:NCVG]]. Even if the "correct" translation is ''Fray'', we go by sources. I don't recall seeing any [[WP:RS]] ever calling the game ''Fray''. Changing seems [[WP:OR]]. --[[User:Soetermans|Soetermans]]. [[User talk: Soetermans|'''T''']] / [[Special:Contributions/Soetermans|'''C''']] 20:45, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
::::I don't believe there's an official source citing an English translation of the Japanese name, so someone had to have originally come up with it. I'm getting "Fray" from the translation the SmashWiki (ssbwiki.com) consistently uses, and I've seen that translation used many times before prior to knowing about that site. I have never ever seen "Great Melee" used before, and it's still visually jarring to see the same word used as in "Super Smash Bros. Melee" (almost always abbreviated "Melee" when talking about that one game itself). With no official source, why not just use the name translation that the most people are familiar with? [[User:Zowayix001|Zowayix001]] ([[User talk:Zowayix001|talk]]) 19:22, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 05:32, 26 July 2024

Former good articleSuper Smash Bros. (video game) was one of the Video games good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 18, 2006Good article nomineeNot listed
April 21, 2007Good article nomineeListed
April 29, 2007Good article reassessmentDelisted
February 3, 2008Good article nomineeListed
May 10, 2008Good article reassessmentDelisted
June 22, 2008Good article nomineeListed
July 25, 2008Featured topic candidatePromoted
May 25, 2019Featured topic removal candidateDemoted
January 27, 2024Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article