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Clarification „Ghose“ or „Ghosh“

Again and again the name „Ghose“ is changed into „Ghosh“ in various edits. These are reverted because they are unsourced, whereas “Ghose” is confirmed in several biographies. See, for instance, K.R.S. Iyengar (1972), A.B. Purani (1978) or Heehs (2008). Raimundo (talk) 08:23, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

REGARDING CASTE OF SRI AUROBINDO

Well certainly Sri Aurobindo was a bengali but specifically Bengali Kayastha community. This information is missing from the article . I request it to be added. Sources: 1)^[1] 2)^[2]LALAJI1234 (talk) 14:32, 26 December 2021 (UTC) 3)^[3] pg 32.[reply]

Hence, I request editors to ADD HIS INFO ABOUT CASTE. LALAJI1234 (talk) 14:43, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do we know that the subject of the article cared enough about it to tell others that he identified with a particular caste? NRPanikker (talk) 04:45, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

It is true that the Ghoses belonged to the Kayastha caste but Sri Aurobindo himself never referred to it in his comprehensive autobiographical writings (see CWSA vols. 35 / 36) or other texts. Therefore this information is not relevant in the context of this article. It has been mentioned in footnote 8, and that will do. --Raimundo (talk) 16:17, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Books of aurobindo

Good platform for learning 175.101.156.223 (talk) 12:23, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mental Plane

Hi there Aurobindo experts, I am looking at this page: Mental plane which has not a single citation but a fair bit of information. I am trying to decide whether it is a subject worth developing, something that should be merged somewhere or something that needs a bit of WP:TNT. It claims that the Mental Plane is found in various philosophies and traditions, including yours. Is that correct? Most of the stuff I have found is only about Theosophy (or else something completely different!) If it is relevant to yourselves, you might want to make some edits there or else wight in on what it needs. Thanks Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:14, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sirfurboy: not worth the truble; just softly close the door and tiptoe away, leaving the page peacefully undisturbed. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 10:01, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://books.google.co.in/books?id=Bp5ADwAAQBAJ&pg=PT99&dq=Sri+Aurobindo+was+kayastha&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMz_X-1YH1AhWUlNgFHcmeBH0Q6AF6BAgFEAM#v=onepage&q=Sri%20Aurobindo%20was%20kayastha&f=false

[2] ttps://books.google.co.in/books?id=bkRxDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA519&dq=Sri+Aurobindo+was+kayastha&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMz_X-1YH1AhWUlNgFHcmeBH0Q6AF6BAgGEAM#v=onepage&q=Sri%20Aurobindo%20was%20kayastha&f=false

[3] ttps://www.worldcat.org/title/bengal-change-and-continuity-papers/oclc/258335/viewport

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+== Clarification „Ghose“ or „Ghosh“ ==
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+Again and again the name „Ghose“ is changed into „Ghosh“ in various edits. These are reverted because they are unsourced, whereas  “Ghose” is confirmed in several biographies. See, for instance, K.R.S. Iyengar (1972), A.B. Purani (1978) or Heehs (2008).
-== The Gibberesh ==
+[[User:Raimundo|Raimundo]] ([[User talk:Raimundo|talk]]) 08:23, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
-Please find below the philo part which needs to be worked on if this is a copy vio
+== REGARDING CASTE OF SRI AUROBINDO ==
-"
-Aurobindo believed that the current concept of evolution merely describes a phenomenon and does not explain the reason behind it, while he finds that life to be already present in the matter. He argued that nature (which he interpreted as divine) has evolved life out of matter and then mind out of life, in other words that evolution had a purpose. He believed that matter has an impulse to become life, and that life has a similar impulse to become mind.[48] He stated that he found the task of understanding the nature of reality arduous and difficult to justify by immediate tangible results.
-He describes that the current will in humans to find [[Metaphysics|nature of reality]] has been for him arduous, difficult to justify by immediate tangible results, slow in regulating its operations and has turned him against the secret working of nature which has made him to evade the effort of enquiry of its true meaning.{{sfnp|Aurobindo|2005|p=7|ps=}}
+Well certainly Sri Aurobindo was a bengali but specifically  [[Bengali Kayastha]] community. This information is missing from the article . I request it to be added. Sources:
-According to Aurobindo, the evolution being progressive manifestation by Nature has not come to end on earth and the man being the product of evolution has had impulses and goals of achieving God, Light, Freedom and [[immortality]], this would lead to the next evolutionary stages in man. Aurobindo finds for man, the manifestation of the divine in himself and the realisation of God within and without are the highest and most legitimate aim possible to man upon earth.{{sfnp|Aurobindo|2005|p=6|ps=}}
+)<ref>https://books.google.co.in/books?id=Bp5ADwAAQBAJ&pg=PT99&dq=Sri+Aurobindo+was+kayastha&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMz_X-1YH1AhWUlNgFHcmeBH0Q6AF6BAgFEAM#v=onepage&q=Sri%20Aurobindo%20was%20kayastha&f=false</ref>
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+)<ref>https://books.google.co.in/books?id=bkRxDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA519&dq=Sri+Aurobindo+was+kayastha&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMz_X-1YH1AhWUlNgFHcmeBH0Q6AF6BAgGEAM#v=onepage&q=Sri%20Aurobindo%20was%20kayastha&f=false </ref>[[User:LALAJI1234|LALAJI1234]] ([[User talk:LALAJI1234|talk]]) 14:32, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
-[[User:Shrikanthv|Shrikanthv]] ([[User talk:Shrikanthv|talk]]) 13:05, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
+)<ref>https://www.worldcat.org/title/bengal-change-and-continuity-papers/oclc/258335/viewport </ref> pg 32.
+Hence, I request editors to '''ADD HIS INFO ABOUT CASTE'''.
+[[User:LALAJI1234|LALAJI1234]] ([[User talk:LALAJI1234|talk]]) 14:43, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
+:Do we know that the subject of the article cared enough about it to tell others that he identified with a particular caste? [[User:NRPanikker|NRPanikker]] ([[User talk:NRPanikker|talk]]) 04:45, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
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+::It is true that the Ghoses belonged to the Kayastha caste but Sri Aurobindo himself never referred to it in his comprehensive autobiographical writings (see CWSA vols. 35 / 36) or other texts. Therefore this information is not relevant in the context of this article. It has been mentioned in footnote 8, and that will do. --[[User:Raimundo|Raimundo]] ([[User talk:Raimundo|talk]]) 16:17, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
-== Polygot ==
-Definitely not needed in lead section and have reverted the edit, I think there is a need for discussion as its a one author claim without any more references [[User:Shrikanthv|Shrikanthv]] ([[User talk:Shrikanthv|talk]]) 15:12, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
-the text reverted below
-He was a [[polyglot]], who, apart from his native [[Bengali language|Bengali]] and educational [[English language|English]], knew [[ancient Greek language|ancient Greek]], [[Latin language|Latin]], [[French language|French]], [[German language|German]], [[Italian language|Italian]], [[Spanish language|Spanish]] and other [[Indian languages]] like [[Sanskrit language|Sanskrit]], [[Hindi language|Hindi]], [[Marathi language|Marathi]] and [[Gujarati language|Gujurati]].<ref>[[Peter Heehs]], ''The Lives of Sri Aurobindo: A Biography'', [[Columbia University Press]] (2013), p. 43</ref>
-{{reflist-talk}}
+== Books of aurobindo ==
-==Reverts==
-can we discusss your reverts [[User:TheRedPenOfDooms|user:TheRedPenOfDoom]] ??[[User:Shrikanthv|Shrikanthv]] ([[User talk:Shrikanthv|talk]]) 08:45, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
+Good platform for learning [[Special:Contributions/175.101.156.223|175.101.156.223]] ([[User talk:175.101.156.223|talk]]) 12:23, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
-== Critics: Ramana Maharshi ==
+== Mental Plane ==
-Paul Brunton: ''""That these differences of view exist even among illumined mystics is a striking but rarely studied fact. Why did Ramana Maharshi poke gentle fun at Aurobindo’s doctrine of spiritual planes?"" [http://richardpettymd.com/category/mystical-experiences/page/5/]'' I also remember a response by Ramana Maharshi on Aurobindo's planes in "Talks." [[User:Joshua Jonathan|<font size="2"><span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">Joshua Jonathan</span></font>]] -[[User talk:Joshua Jonathan|<font size="3"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span></font>]] 15:01, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
+Hi there Aurobindo experts, I am looking at this page: [[Mental plane]] which has not a single citation but a fair bit of information. I am trying to decide whether it is a subject worth developing, something that should be merged somewhere or something that needs a bit of [[WP:TNT]]. It claims that the Mental Plane is found in various philosophies and traditions, including yours. Is that correct? Most of the stuff I have found is only about Theosophy (or else something completely different!) If it is relevant to yourselves, you might want to make some edits there or else wight in on what it needs. Thanks [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 09:14, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
-:: ? I did not get the point ?, I think there were like [[osho]] too who critcised more "specifically" ? [[User:Shrikanthv|Shrikanthv]] ([[User talk:Shrikanthv|talk]]) 09:03, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
+:{{yo|Sirfurboy}} not worth the truble; just softly close the door and tiptoe away, leaving the page peacefully undisturbed. [[User:Joshua Jonathan|<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">Joshua Jonathan</span>]] -[[User talk:Joshua Jonathan|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span>]] 10:01, 24 August 2022 (UTC)