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Clarification „Ghose“ or „Ghosh“

Again and again the name „Ghose“ is changed into „Ghosh“ in various edits. These are reverted because they are unsourced, whereas “Ghose” is confirmed in several biographies. See, for instance, K.R.S. Iyengar (1972), A.B. Purani (1978) or Heehs (2008). Raimundo (talk) 08:23, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

REGARDING CASTE OF SRI AUROBINDO

Well certainly Sri Aurobindo was a bengali but specifically Bengali Kayastha community. This information is missing from the article . I request it to be added. Sources: 1)^[1] 2)^[2]LALAJI1234 (talk) 14:32, 26 December 2021 (UTC) 3)^[3] pg 32.[reply]

Hence, I request editors to ADD HIS INFO ABOUT CASTE. LALAJI1234 (talk) 14:43, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do we know that the subject of the article cared enough about it to tell others that he identified with a particular caste? NRPanikker (talk) 04:45, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

It is true that the Ghoses belonged to the Kayastha caste but Sri Aurobindo himself never referred to it in his comprehensive autobiographical writings (see CWSA vols. 35 / 36) or other texts. Therefore this information is not relevant in the context of this article. It has been mentioned in footnote 8, and that will do. --Raimundo (talk) 16:17, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Books of aurobindo

Good platform for learning 175.101.156.223 (talk) 12:23, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mental Plane

Hi there Aurobindo experts, I am looking at this page: Mental plane which has not a single citation but a fair bit of information. I am trying to decide whether it is a subject worth developing, something that should be merged somewhere or something that needs a bit of WP:TNT. It claims that the Mental Plane is found in various philosophies and traditions, including yours. Is that correct? Most of the stuff I have found is only about Theosophy (or else something completely different!) If it is relevant to yourselves, you might want to make some edits there or else wight in on what it needs. Thanks Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:14, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sirfurboy: not worth the truble; just softly close the door and tiptoe away, leaving the page peacefully undisturbed. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 10:01, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://books.google.co.in/books?id=Bp5ADwAAQBAJ&pg=PT99&dq=Sri+Aurobindo+was+kayastha&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMz_X-1YH1AhWUlNgFHcmeBH0Q6AF6BAgFEAM#v=onepage&q=Sri%20Aurobindo%20was%20kayastha&f=false

[2] ttps://books.google.co.in/books?id=bkRxDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA519&dq=Sri+Aurobindo+was+kayastha&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMz_X-1YH1AhWUlNgFHcmeBH0Q6AF6BAgGEAM#v=onepage&q=Sri%20Aurobindo%20was%20kayastha&f=false

[3] ttps://www.worldcat.org/title/bengal-change-and-continuity-papers/oclc/258335/viewport

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+== Clarification „Ghose“ or „Ghosh“ ==
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+Again and again the name „Ghose“ is changed into „Ghosh“ in various edits. These are reverted because they are unsourced, whereas  “Ghose” is confirmed in several biographies. See, for instance, K.R.S. Iyengar (1972), A.B. Purani (1978) or Heehs (2008).
-== The Gibberesh ==
+[[User:Raimundo|Raimundo]] ([[User talk:Raimundo|talk]]) 08:23, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
-Please find below the philo part which needs to be worked on if this is a copy vio
+== REGARDING CASTE OF SRI AUROBINDO ==
-"
-Aurobindo believed that the current concept of evolution merely describes a phenomenon and does not explain the reason behind it, while he finds that life to be already present in the matter. He argued that nature (which he interpreted as divine) has evolved life out of matter and then mind out of life, in other words that evolution had a purpose. He believed that matter has an impulse to become life, and that life has a similar impulse to become mind.[48] He stated that he found the task of understanding the nature of reality arduous and difficult to justify by immediate tangible results.
-He describes that the current will in humans to find [[Metaphysics|nature of reality]] has been for him arduous, difficult to justify by immediate tangible results, slow in regulating its operations and has turned him against the secret working of nature which has made him to evade the effort of enquiry of its true meaning.{{sfnp|Aurobindo|2005|p=7|ps=}}
+Well certainly Sri Aurobindo was a bengali but specifically  [[Bengali Kayastha]] community. This information is missing from the article . I request it to be added. Sources:
-According to Aurobindo, the evolution being progressive manifestation by Nature has not come to end on earth and the man being the product of evolution has had impulses and goals of achieving God, Light, Freedom and [[immortality]], this would lead to the next evolutionary stages in man. Aurobindo finds for man, the manifestation of the divine in himself and the realisation of God within and without are the highest and most legitimate aim possible to man upon earth.{{sfnp|Aurobindo|2005|p=6|ps=}}
+)<ref>https://books.google.co.in/books?id=Bp5ADwAAQBAJ&pg=PT99&dq=Sri+Aurobindo+was+kayastha&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMz_X-1YH1AhWUlNgFHcmeBH0Q6AF6BAgFEAM#v=onepage&q=Sri%20Aurobindo%20was%20kayastha&f=false</ref>
-"
+)<ref>https://books.google.co.in/books?id=bkRxDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA519&dq=Sri+Aurobindo+was+kayastha&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMz_X-1YH1AhWUlNgFHcmeBH0Q6AF6BAgGEAM#v=onepage&q=Sri%20Aurobindo%20was%20kayastha&f=false </ref>[[User:LALAJI1234|LALAJI1234]] ([[User talk:LALAJI1234|talk]]) 14:32, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
-[[User:Shrikanthv|Shrikanthv]] ([[User talk:Shrikanthv|talk]]) 13:05, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
+)<ref>https://www.worldcat.org/title/bengal-change-and-continuity-papers/oclc/258335/viewport </ref> pg 32.
+Hence, I request editors to '''ADD HIS INFO ABOUT CASTE'''.
+[[User:LALAJI1234|LALAJI1234]] ([[User talk:LALAJI1234|talk]]) 14:43, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
+:Do we know that the subject of the article cared enough about it to tell others that he identified with a particular caste? [[User:NRPanikker|NRPanikker]] ([[User talk:NRPanikker|talk]]) 04:45, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
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+::It is true that the Ghoses belonged to the Kayastha caste but Sri Aurobindo himself never referred to it in his comprehensive autobiographical writings (see CWSA vols. 35 / 36) or other texts. Therefore this information is not relevant in the context of this article. It has been mentioned in footnote 8, and that will do. --[[User:Raimundo|Raimundo]] ([[User talk:Raimundo|talk]]) 16:17, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
-== Polygot ==
-Definitely not needed in lead section and have reverted the edit, I think there is a need for discussion as its a one author claim without any more references [[User:Shrikanthv|Shrikanthv]] ([[User talk:Shrikanthv|talk]]) 15:12, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
-the text reverted below
-He was a [[polyglot]], who, apart from his native [[Bengali language|Bengali]] and educational [[English language|English]], knew [[ancient Greek language|ancient Greek]], [[Latin language|Latin]], [[French language|French]], [[German language|German]], [[Italian language|Italian]], [[Spanish language|Spanish]] and other [[Indian languages]] like [[Sanskrit language|Sanskrit]], [[Hindi language|Hindi]], [[Marathi language|Marathi]] and [[Gujarati language|Gujurati]].<ref>[[Peter Heehs]], ''The Lives of Sri Aurobindo: A Biography'', [[Columbia University Press]] (2013), p. 43</ref>
-{{reflist-talk}}
-== Critics: Ramana Maharshi ==
-Paul Brunton:
-:''"That these differences of view exist even among illumined mystics is a striking but rarely studied fact. Why did Ramana Maharshi poke gentle fun at Aurobindo’s doctrine of spiritual planes?" [http://richardpettymd.com/category/mystical-experiences/page/5/]''
-I also remember a response by Ramana Maharshi on Aurobindo's planes in "Talks." [[User:Joshua Jonathan|<font size="2"><span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">Joshua Jonathan</span></font>]] -[[User talk:Joshua Jonathan|<font size="3"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span></font>]] 15:01, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
-:? I did not get the point ?, I think there were like [[osho]] too who critcised more "specifically" ? [[User:Shrikanthv|Shrikanthv]] ([[User talk:Shrikanthv|talk]]) 09:03, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
-:: Rajneesh ("Osho") was a fake, he plagiarized whole paragraphs of his books from other books (the person who discovered that fact, does not want to be the target of threats - but you can see this verified in the scholarly quotes on the Osho wikipedia page.)  Other spiritual teachers pointed out the dubious aspect of Rajneesh and his teachings, much as Maharshi commented on Aurobindo.
-::To corroborate Maharshi's point, note that there are no "levels" or "hierarchies" in nature, those only come from animal social status instincts.  There is nothing greater about a galaxy than a solar system - it is only bigger.  Stars do not ascend to greater status or meaning.
-::Also, evolution is merely the reproduction of genes, and the selection of some genes by their survival.  Contrary to popular views on the word "evolution", there is nothing positive implied.
-::Lastly, changing your name and signature to "Holy Aurobindo" is highly dubious for a spiritual teacher.  Realized beings whom I have met personally characterized themselves as "no one".[[Special:Contributions/162.205.217.211|162.205.217.211]] ([[User talk:162.205.217.211|talk]]) 02:34, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
-::Ramana Maharshi rejected Aurobindo's model of spiritual planes, and the "descend" of spirirtual power from above. Might be of interest here. [[User:Joshua Jonathan|<font size="2"><span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">Joshua Jonathan</span></font>]] -[[User talk:Joshua Jonathan|<font size="3"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span></font>]] 09:37, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
-::: JJ here you will be stepping into actuallity vs intellectual understanding (or " notion of knowing " ) tread that path ? (it may again tread you back you from the boundry of understanding but yes an effort is not a loss) [[User:Shrikanthv|Shrikanthv]] ([[User talk:Shrikanthv|talk]]) 10:32, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
-:::: The basic problem with understanding upanishads or Sri Aurobindo's, Sri Ramana Maharshi, Gurdjieff writings is that in which '''floor''' level you are viewing (a "self observatory skyscrapper") .
-::::consider a skycraper each of them have a balcony in front and in front of the skyscraper there is a huge road some one (1st guy)  standing from 10th floor loudly states here comes the red car, a person standing in 2nd floor (2nd guy) looks out sees nothing and after few minutes sees the red car! wow the guy above in the 10th floor is a magician how can he know the future!!.
-::::now consider there is some one (3rd guy)  standing on the road infront of the skyscraper he just walks in front of skyscrapper in one direction for 5 km and makes a note and then in the other direction makes a note and again in another direction makes a note , now he walks 10 km in every direction makes a note , now he has compunded a written map of how things are situated in around the building!
-what difference do you see between these three guys ? [[User:Shrikanthv|Shrikanthv]] ([[User talk:Shrikanthv|talk]]) 09:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
-:::::{{yo|Shrikanthv}} if I understand you correctly, you're saying that both were enlightened souls, but looking from a different plane, c.q. taking different approaches? The one (Ramana Maharshi) was merely looking, whereas the other (Sri Aurobindo) also described the territory?
-:::::What strikes me, is that Ramana Maharshi (if I understand him correctly) says that "truth" ('satya-prajna') is not something that descends from another plane, but just ''is''. Seeing (prajna) truth (satya) = being (satya) truth (satya), so to speak. [[User:Joshua Jonathan|<font size="2"><span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">Joshua Jonathan</span></font>]] -[[User talk:Joshua Jonathan|<font size="3"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span></font>]] 13:57, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
-== Modi ==
-{{yo|Mihirjha27}} please stop [[WP:EDITWARRING]], and discuss your edits per [[WP:BRD]]. Your addition is problematic for several reasons:
-:''"Narendra Modi, one of the most Popular politicians in the world and Prime Minister of India, is also influenced by ideals of the great Sri Aurobindo. In his visit to Paris in June 2015, he paid homage to Sri Aurobindo in Paris Unesco. [http://www.auroville.org/contents/3679 <nowiki>[10]</nowiki>]"''
-{{reflist-talk}}
+== Books of aurobindo ==
-:* "one of the most Popular politicians in the world": that's a non-encyclopedic personal comment, which violates [[WP:NPOV]] and [[WP:SOAPBOX]]
-:* the sentence in toto is [[WP:UNDUE]]: it's not relevant to Sri Aurobindo.
+Good platform for learning [[Special:Contributions/175.101.156.223|175.101.156.223]] ([[User talk:175.101.156.223|talk]]) 12:23, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
-[[User:Joshua Jonathan|<font size="2"><span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">Joshua Jonathan</span></font>]] -[[User talk:Joshua Jonathan|<font size="3"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span></font>]] 14:55, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
-== World War II ==
+== Mental Plane ==
+Hi there Aurobindo experts, I am looking at this page: [[Mental plane]] which has not a single citation but a fair bit of information. I am trying to decide whether it is a subject worth developing, something that should be merged somewhere or something that needs a bit of [[WP:TNT]]. It claims that the Mental Plane is found in various philosophies and traditions, including yours. Is that correct? Most of the stuff I have found is only about Theosophy (or else something completely different!) If it is relevant to yourselves, you might want to make some edits there or else wight in on what it needs. Thanks [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 09:14, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
-I've included a new section regarding Aurobindo's support for the Allies during World War II, as well as his warnings on communism, under "Later political views". I've not included the claims that Aurobindo and the Mother influenced the war (such as the Mother appearing to Hitler as the Asura), only that they were anti-Nazi. Do people think they should be included?  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193|195.2.244.193]] ([[User talk:195.2.244.193|talk]]) 16:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+:{{yo|Sirfurboy}} not worth the truble; just softly close the door and tiptoe away, leaving the page peacefully undisturbed. [[User:Joshua Jonathan|<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">Joshua Jonathan</span>]] -[[User talk:Joshua Jonathan|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span>]] 10:01, 24 August 2022 (UTC)