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== Youngstown metropolitan area == |
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Can anyone explain why [[Mercer County, Pennsylvania]] is not listed as part of the [[Youngstown metropolitan area]], although it's included on the map, and in the census source? It's listed as a separate micropolitan statistical area, but I don't know why. [[User:Kk.urban|Kk.urban]] ([[User talk:Kk.urban|talk]]) 22:34, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:The Office of Management and Budget periodically (one or twice a decade) revises the definitions of MSAs. While Mercer County was included in the Youngstown-Warren-Boardman MSA in 2013, it is not included in the Youngstown-Warren MSA as of 2023.<ref>{{Cite web |date=July 21, 2023 |title=Revised Delineations of Metropolitan Statistical Areas, Micropolitan Statistical Areas, and Guidance on the Uses of the Delineations of These Areas |url=https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/OMB-Bulletin-23-01.pdf |access-date=July 21, 2023 |website=Executive Office of the President |page=78}}</ref> |
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:{{talkref}} [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 00:17, 16 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Youngstown metropolitan area -- population error == |
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The Youngstown OH stats must be off. All three numbers (2023, 2020, % change) are exactly the same as the next entry, Savannah GA metropolitan area. The different ranking numbers also point to a transcription error. [[User:Mason.Jones|Mason.Jones]] ([[User talk:Mason.Jones|talk]]) 15:44, 16 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:The 2020 census population for Youngstown-Warren MSA is wrong in that list, but I have not found a 2023 population estimate for the MSA, so I did not edit the list. [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 16:48, 16 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:: I found the error and changed the figures. They were clearly listed by U.S. Census on their 2023 populations estimates webpage. [[User:Mason.Jones|Mason.Jones]] ([[User talk:Mason.Jones|talk]]) 18:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:::And I could not find it, even though I knew it had to be there. But, then, I was in a rush and had to leave for a while. [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 18:49, 16 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Changing the 2020 census numbers == |
== Changing the 2020 census numbers == |
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::And preferably official estimate figures from the US Census Bureau, though if other estimates are used then the sources should be cited. [[User:Coulraphobic123|Coulraphobic123]] ([[User talk:Coulraphobic123|talk]]) 02:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC) |
::And preferably official estimate figures from the US Census Bureau, though if other estimates are used then the sources should be cited. [[User:Coulraphobic123|Coulraphobic123]] ([[User talk:Coulraphobic123|talk]]) 02:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Thank you! [[User:Keystone18|Keystone18]] ([[User talk:Keystone18|talk]]) 21:20, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Boise City is in Oklahoma == |
== Boise City is in Oklahoma == |
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:The name of the MSA, as defined by the Office of Management and Budget and reported by the Census Bureau, is "Boise City-Nampa, ID", and of the CSA, "Boise City-Mountain Home-Ontario, ID-OR". The entry in the list is correct. [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 20:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC) |
:The name of the MSA, as defined by the Office of Management and Budget and reported by the Census Bureau, is "Boise City-Nampa, ID", and of the CSA, "Boise City-Mountain Home-Ontario, ID-OR". The entry in the list is correct. [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 20:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== New Map == |
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The 2023 metropolitan and micropolitan statistical area map has now been published (https://www.census.gov/geographies/reference-maps/2023/geo/cbsa.html). Could you please update the map on the article? [[Special:Contributions/141.156.171.41|141.156.171.41]] ([[User talk:141.156.171.41|talk]]) 22:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Changing the 2020 census numbers
[edit]The problem with never changing the 2020 census population on the chart is that some of the MSA definitions have changed since 2020, and comparing the 2023 estimates for the current definition of an MSA to the 2020 census report for a previous definition of that MSA may be grossly misleading about any changes in population. Donald Albury 21:08, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- When the new 2023 delineations were released, I manually went through each one of them and recalculated the MSAs given the new boundaries. Since MSAs are defined by county borders, I just used the source from the OMB which listed each county of the new boundaries and updated the 2020 Census figures to reflect those. The 2020 Census column in this chart is indeed the population figures given the new boundaries. Coulraphobic123 (talk) 01:12, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Even worse, I see many pages with 2010 and even 2000 data. These should be removed unless there is no more recent data, right? Keystone18 (talk) 15:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I would say the choices are: 1) update them; 2) place an {{Update}} or {{Update inline}} tag; 3) leave them alone because they are correct in their context (assuming they show the year the data is from). Stefen Towers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 15:05, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Even worse, I see many pages with 2010 and even 2000 data. These should be removed unless there is no more recent data, right? Keystone18 (talk) 15:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Minor question, but in {{U.S. city population tables}}, should the numbers include Puerto Rico? Kk.urban (talk) 22:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- As Puerto Rico is a part of the United States, that would seem to make sense. Stefen Towers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 23:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- The Census Bureau does separate statistical areas into two categories, the United States and Puerto Rico, and so do our lists. However, it makes sense to include Puerto Rico, because it's on our pages. Kk.urban (talk) 00:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Can the 2023 estimates be used on respective pages, or are the 2020 full census numbers what should be used? Keystone18 (talk) 15:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- You can add estimates in addition to the 2020 count, but the 2020 count is the primary number used. Criticalthinker (talk) 17:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- And preferably official estimate figures from the US Census Bureau, though if other estimates are used then the sources should be cited. Coulraphobic123 (talk) 02:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Keystone18 (talk) 21:20, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Boise City is in Oklahoma
[edit]The link for Boise, ID says Boise City, ID. Boise city is in Oklahoma. The link correctly points to Boise, ID. The tag should probably be adjusted to the correct city so that there is no confusion. 64.89.105.195 (talk) 19:40, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- The name of the MSA, as defined by the Office of Management and Budget and reported by the Census Bureau, is "Boise City-Nampa, ID", and of the CSA, "Boise City-Mountain Home-Ontario, ID-OR". The entry in the list is correct. Donald Albury 20:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
New Map
[edit]The 2023 metropolitan and micropolitan statistical area map has now been published (https://www.census.gov/geographies/reference-maps/2023/geo/cbsa.html). Could you please update the map on the article? 141.156.171.41 (talk) 22:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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