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{{Infobox song
| name = No Matter What They Say
| name = No Matter What They Say
| cover = LilKimNMWTS.jpg
| cover = LilKimNMWTS.jpg
| alt =
| border = yes
| type = single
| alt =
| artist = [[Lil' Kim]]
| type = single
| album = [[The Notorious K.I.M.]]
| artist = [[Lil' Kim]]
| album = [[The Notorious K.I.M.]]
| released = {{Start date|2000|6|13|mf=y}}
| format = {{flat list|
| released = {{Start date|2000|5|30|mf=y}}
| recorded = 2000
*[[CD single]]
| studio =
*[[12" single]]
| venue =
*[[cassette single|cassette]]}}
| genre = [[Latin pop|Latin]] · [[Hip hop music|hip hop]]
| recorded = 2000
| studio =
| length = 4:17
| label = *[[Queen Bee Entertainment|Queen Bee]]
| venue =
*[[Atlantic Records|Atlantic]]
| genre = {{flat list|
| writer = *K. Jones
*[[Hip hop music|Hip hop]]
*[[Contemporary R&B|R&B]]
*[[latin music (genre)|latin pop]]}}
| length = 4:17
| label = {{flat list|
*[[Queen Bee Entertainment|Queen Bee]]
*[[Atlantic Records|Atlantic]]}}
| writer = {{flat list|
*K. Jones
*D. Henson
*D. Henson
*J. Feliciano
*J. Feliciano
*Eric B. & Rakim
*[[Eric B. & Rakim]]
*E. Archer
*E. Archer
*R. Beavers
*R. Beavers
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*H. Thomas
*H. Thomas
*N. Rodgers
*N. Rodgers
*B. Edwards}}
*B. Edwards
| producer = Darren "Limitless" Henson
| producer = Darren "Limitless" Henson
| prev_title = [[Notorious B.I.G. (song)|Notorious B.I.G.]]
| prev_title = [[Notorious B.I.G. (song)|Notorious B.I.G.]]
| prev_year = 2000
| prev_year = 1999
| next_title = [[How Many Licks?]]
| next_title = [[How Many Licks?]]
| next_year = 2000
| next_year = 2000
}}
}}


"'''No Matter What They Say'''" is a song by [[Lil' Kim]], released as the first single from her second album ''[[The Notorious K.I.M.]]'', released in [[2000 in music|2000]]. It reached number 60 on the [[Billboard Hot 100|''Billboard'' Hot 100]] and number 35 on the [[UK Singles Chart]].
"'''No Matter What They Say'''" is a song by [[Lil' Kim]] from her second album ''[[The Notorious K.I.M.]]'' (2000). It was released as the [[lead single]] from the album on May 30, 2000 by [[Atlantic Records]] and [[Queen Bee Entertainment]].


A moderate commercial success, "No Matter What They Say" reached number 60 on the US [[Billboard Hot 100|''Billboard'' Hot 100]] and number 35 on the [[UK Singles Chart]].
==Background==
"No Matter What They Say" was not Kim's first choice as the lead single from the album. Kim didn't want the song released as she felt the Spanish sound had already been done so many times due to the [[Latin pop]] explosion of the late 90s. Instead Kim wanted "The Queen", one of the songs that leaked prior to the album's release, as her first single. The record label didn't agree with Kim and insisted on releasing "No Matter What They Say". With time running out and not wanting her first week album sales to suffer, Kim agreed with her label to release the song. "The Queen" never made it on the album's final track listing.


==Background and composition==
==Samples==
"No Matter What They Say" was not Kim's first choice as the lead single from the album. Kim did not want the song released as she felt the Spanish sound had already been done so many times due to the [[Latin pop]] explosion of the late 90s. Instead Kim wanted "The Queen", one of the songs that leaked prior to the album's release, as her first single. The record label didn't agree with Kim and insisted on releasing "No Matter What They Say". With time running out and not wanting her first week album sales to suffer, Kim agreed with her label to release the song. "The Queen" never made it on the album's final track listing. "Bad Girls" was another track that was leaked but Kim re-used the first verse for the lead single.<ref>{{Citation |title=Lil' Kim (Ft. RuPaul) – Bad Girls |url=https://genius.com/Lil-kim-bad-girls-lyrics |access-date=2022-06-13}}</ref>
This song sampled many other songs, including:
*"Esto es el Guaguanco" by [[José Feliciano]]
*"I Got It Made" by [[Special Ed]]
*"I Know You Got Soul" by [[Eric B. & Rakim]]
*"[[Rapper's Delight]]" by [[The Sugarhill Gang]]


The song is a [[Latin pop|Latin]] and [[Hip hop music|hip hop]] track with a latin rhythm based around the main sample of "Esto es el Guaguanco" by [[Cheo Feliciano]].<ref>{{Cite web |last=Guzman |first=Isaac |date=2000-06-25 |title=Lil' Kim: Notoriously misunderstood |url=https://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-biggie25jun00-story.html |access-date=2022-06-13 |website=[[Los Angeles Times]] |language= |quote=[[...]] the track has a Latin rhythm. [[...]] This track was just so different, Latin with a hip-hop breakdown.}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |last=Cepeda |first=Raquel |date=2000-08-08 |title=Fool's Paradise |url=https://www.villagevoice.com/2000/08/08/fools-paradise/ |access-date=2022-06-13 |website=[[The Village Voice]] |quote=Producer Darren “Limitless” Henson borrows the Latin guitar relish of Jose Feliciano’s “Esto Es el Guaguanco”}}</ref><ref name=":0">{{Cite book |last=Taylor |first=Chuck |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=rg8EAAAAMBAJ |title=Reviews & Previews: Singles: RAP |date=2000-06-24 |publisher=[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]] |page=30 |language=}}</ref> It has influences of [[Tropical music|tropical]] and [[East Coast hip hop]].<ref name=":0" /> During the bridge, there's a breakdown chopping up the latin sample into a hip hop beat sampling multiple [[old-school hip hop]] songs such as "I Got It Made" by [[Special Ed]], "I Know You Got Soul" by [[Eric B. & Rakim]], and "[[Rapper's Delight]]" by [[The Sugarhill Gang]].<ref name=":0" />
The song also samples the line 'I'm just tryna be me, doing what I gotta do' from "[[Top of the World (Brandy Norwood song)|Top of the World]]" by [[Brandy Norwood|Brandy]] as well as "This is how it should be done" from Roxanne's On A Roll by The Real Roxanne.


The song interpolates the line "This is how it should be done" from Roxanne's On A Roll by [[Roxanne Shante]].
== Music video ==
The "No Matter What They Say" music video was filmed in L.A and directed by [[Marcus Raboy]]. It featured cameo appearances from


==Music video==
*[[Sean Combs|Diddy]]
The accompanying [[music video]] for "No Matter What They Say" was filmed in [[Los Angeles]] and directed by [[Marcus Raboy]] in early June 2000.<ref name=mtv>{{Cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/1427280/lil-kim-lands-meth-puffy-more-for-new-video/|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191018093051/http://www.mtv.com/news/1427280/lil-kim-lands-meth-puffy-more-for-new-video/|url-status=dead|archive-date=October 18, 2019|title = Lil' Kim Lands Meth, Puffy, More for New Video|website = [[MTV]]}}</ref> It features cameo appearances from [[Sean Combs|Puff Daddy]], [[Mary J. Blige]], [[Missy Elliott]], [[Method Man & Redman]], [[Xzibit]], [[Junior M.A.F.I.A.]] and [[Carmen Electra]].<ref name=mtv/> The video needed some digital retouches, such was "nipple fixes" for when Kim wiggles out of her [[Versace]] bustiers and computer-edited T-shirts for her backup girls (they were altered to "itty girls"). Cameo dancer Carmen Electra had her underwear altered as well. "It's not like you could really see anything. It's just the freeze-frame factor you have to consider", said director Marcus Raboy.<ref>{{Cite magazine|url=https://ew.com/article/2000/07/28/lil-kim-retouched/|title = Lil' Kim retouched|magazine = [[Entertainment Weekly]]}}</ref> The music video premiered on ''[[Total Request Live]]'' (TRL) on June 20, 2000.<ref name=mtv/>
*[[Mary J. Blige]]
*[[Missy Elliott]]
*[[Redman (rapper)|Redman]]
*[[Method Man]]
*[[Xzibit]]
*[[Lil' Cease]]
*[[Junior M.A.F.I.A.]]
*[[Carmen Electra]]


==Track listings==
==Track listings==
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==Credits and personnel==
==Credits and personnel==
Credits for "No Matter What They Say" are taken from the single's liner notes.<ref name="CD Credits">{{cite AV media notes |title=No Matter What They Say |titlelink=No Matter What They Say |others=Lil' Kim |year=2000 |type=Cover |publisher=[[Atlantic Records|Atlantic]] a division of [[Warner Music Group]], (Cat no. 7567-84697-2 ) |location=New York, [[New York (state)|NY]]}}</ref>
Credits for "No Matter What They Say" are taken from the single's liner notes.<ref name="CD Credits">{{cite AV media notes |title=No Matter What They Say |title-link=No Matter What They Say |others=Lil' Kim |year=2000 |type=Cover |publisher=[[Atlantic Records|Atlantic]] a division of [[Warner Music Group]], (Cat no. 7567-84697-2 ) |location=New York, [[New York (state)|NY]]}}</ref>


'''Recording'''
'''Recording'''
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== Charts ==
== Charts ==
{{col-begin}}
{| class="wikitable sortable"
{{col-2}}
===Weekly charts===
{| class="wikitable sortable plainrowheaders" style="text-align:center"
|+ Weekly chart performance for "No Matter What They Say"
! scope="col"| Chart (2000)
! scope="col"| Peak<br>position
|-
|-
{{single chart|Scotland|68|artist=Lil' Kim|date=20000827|rowheader=true|accessdate=February 11, 2020}}
!scope="col"|Chart (2000)
!scope="col"| Peak<br>position
|-
|-
{{single chart|UKsinglesbyname|35|artist=Lil' Kim|artistid=2412|rowheader=true|accessdate=October 18, 2019|refname=uk}}
|[[UK Singles Chart]]
| style="text-align:center;"|35
|-
|-
{{single chart|UKdance|19|artist=Lil' Kim|date=20000827|rowheader=true|accessdate=February 11, 2020}}
|US [[Billboard Hot 100|''Billboard'' Hot 100]]
| style="text-align:center;"|60
|-
|-
{{single chart|UKrandb|3|artist=Lil' Kim|date=20000827|rowheader=true|accessdate=February 11, 2020}}
|US [[Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs]]
| style="text-align:center;"|15
|-
|-
{{single chart|Billboardhot100|60|artist=Lil Kim|rowheader=true|accessdate=October 18, 2019}}
|US [[Hot Rap Songs|Rap Songs]]
| style="text-align:center;"|6
|-
|-
{{single chart|Billboardrandbhiphop|15|artist=Lil Kim|rowheader=true|accessdate=October 18, 2019}}
!align="left"|Year-end chart (2000)
! style="text-align:center;"|Position
|-
|-
{{single chart|Billboardrapsongs|6|artist=Lil Kim|rowheader=true|accessdate=October 18, 2019}}
|US ''Billboard'' Hot R&B/Rap Singles & Tracks<ref>{{cite book|author=Billboard |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ehEEAAAAMBAJ&pg=RA1-PA86&dq=LIL+KIM+billboard+2000&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hbxqU_elApfs8AW9moGYCQ&ved=0CFAQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=LIL%20KIM%20billboard%202000&f=false |title=Billboard - 2000 The Year In Music |publisher=Billboard Magazine |date=2000-12-30 |accessdate=2014-05-08}}</ref>
| style="text-align:center;"|74
|-
|-
{{single chart|Billboardrhythmic|36|artist=Lil Kim|rowheader=true|accessdate=February 11, 2020}}
|}
{{col-2}}

===Year-end charts===
{| class="wikitable sortable plainrowheaders" style="text-align:center"
|+ Year-end chart performance for "No Matter What They Say"
! scope="col"| Chart (2000)
! scope="col"| Position
|-
! scope="row"| US Hot Rap Songs (''Billboard'')<ref>{{cite book|author=Billboard |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ehEEAAAAMBAJ&q=LIL+KIM+billboard+2000&pg=RA1-PA86 |title=Billboard - 2000 The Year In Music |publisher=Billboard Magazine |date=2000-12-30 |accessdate=2014-05-08}}</ref>
| 74
|}
{{col-end}}

==Release history==
{| class="wikitable sortable plainrowheaders"
|+ Release dates and formats for "No Matter What They Say"
! scope="col"| Region
! scope="col"| Date
! scope="col"| Format(s)
! scope="col"| Label(s)
! scope="col"| {{abbr|Ref.|Reference(s)}}
|-
! scope="row"| United States
| May 30, 2000
| {{hlist|[[Rhythmic contemporary radio]]|[[Urban contemporary music|urban contemporary radio]]}}
| {{hlist|[[Atlantic Records|Atlantic]]|[[Queen Bee Entertainment|Queen Bee]]}}
| {{center|<ref>{{cite magazine|url=https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-RandR/2000s/2000/RR-2000-05-26.pdf|title=ADDvance Notice|page=65|magazine=[[Radio & Records]]|date=May 26, 2000|accessdate=March 30, 2022|via=World Radio History}}</ref><ref>{{cite magazine|url=https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-RandR/2000s/2000/RR-2000-05-26.pdf|title=CHR/Rhythmic: Going For Adds 5/30/00|page=84|magazine=[[Radio & Records]]|date=May 26, 2000|accessdate=March 30, 2022|via=World Radio History}}</ref>}}
|-
! scope="row"| United Kingdom
| August 21, 2000
| {{hlist|[[Twelve-inch single|12-inch vinyl]]|[[Cassette single|cassette]]|[[Maxi single|maxi CD]]}}
| [[East West Records|East West]]
| {{center|<ref>{{cite magazine|url=https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Music-Week/2000/Music-Week-2000-08-19.pdf|title=New Releases &ndash; For Week Starting August 21, 2000: Singles|page=25|magazine=[[Music Week]]|location=London|date=August 19, 2000|accessdate=March 30, 2022|via=World Radio History}}</ref>}}
|}
|}


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{{Reflist}}
{{Reflist}}

==External links==
* {{MetroLyrics song|lil-kim|no-matter-what-they-say}}<!-- Licensed lyrics provider -->


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For other uses, see No Matter What They Say (disambiguation).
"No Matter What They Say"
Single by Lil' Kim
from the album The Notorious K.I.M.
ReleasedMay 30, 2000 (2000-05-30)
Recorded2000
GenreLatin · hip hop
Length4:17
Label
Songwriter(s)
  • K. Jones
  • D. Henson
  • J. Feliciano
  • Eric B. & Rakim
  • E. Archer
  • R. Beavers
  • J. Hill
  • P. Jovner
  • D. Taylor
  • H. Thomas
  • N. Rodgers
  • B. Edwards
Producer(s)Darren "Limitless" Henson
Lil' Kim singles chronology
"Notorious B.I.G."
(1999) 		"No Matter What They Say"
(2000) 		"How Many Licks?"
(2000)

"No Matter What They Say" is a song by Lil' Kim from her second album The Notorious K.I.M. (2000). It was released as the lead single from the album on May 30, 2000 by Atlantic Records and Queen Bee Entertainment.

A moderate commercial success, "No Matter What They Say" reached number 60 on the US Billboard Hot 100 and number 35 on the UK Singles Chart.

Background and composition

"No Matter What They Say" was not Kim's first choice as the lead single from the album. Kim did not want the song released as she felt the Spanish sound had already been done so many times due to the Latin pop explosion of the late 90s. Instead Kim wanted "The Queen", one of the songs that leaked prior to the album's release, as her first single. The record label didn't agree with Kim and insisted on releasing "No Matter What They Say". With time running out and not wanting her first week album sales to suffer, Kim agreed with her label to release the song. "The Queen" never made it on the album's final track listing. "Bad Girls" was another track that was leaked but Kim re-used the first verse for the lead single.[1]

The song is a Latin and hip hop track with a latin rhythm based around the main sample of "Esto es el Guaguanco" by Cheo Feliciano.[2][3][4] It has influences of tropical and East Coast hip hop.[4] During the bridge, there's a breakdown chopping up the latin sample into a hip hop beat sampling multiple old-school hip hop songs such as "I Got It Made" by Special Ed, "I Know You Got Soul" by Eric B. & Rakim, and "Rapper's Delight" by The Sugarhill Gang.[4]

The song interpolates the line "This is how it should be done" from Roxanne's On A Roll by Roxanne Shante.

Music video

The accompanying music video for "No Matter What They Say" was filmed in Los Angeles and directed by Marcus Raboy in early June 2000.[5] It features cameo appearances from Puff Daddy, Mary J. Blige, Missy Elliott, Method Man & Redman, Xzibit, Junior M.A.F.I.A. and Carmen Electra.[5] The video needed some digital retouches, such was "nipple fixes" for when Kim wiggles out of her Versace bustiers and computer-edited T-shirts for her backup girls (they were altered to "itty girls"). Cameo dancer Carmen Electra had her underwear altered as well. "It's not like you could really see anything. It's just the freeze-frame factor you have to consider", said director Marcus Raboy.[6] The music video premiered on Total Request Live (TRL) on June 20, 2000.[5]

Track listings

  1. "No Matter What They Say" (Radio Edit) - 4:19
  2. "No Matter What They Say" (Album Version) - 5:35
  3. "No Matter What They Say" (Instrumental) - 4:21
  • Europe CD single[8]
  1. "No Matter What They Say" (Radio Edit) - 4:18
  2. "No Matter What They Say" (Album Version) - 4:14
  3. "No Matter What They Say" (Instrumental) - 4:19
  4. "No Matter What They Say" (Acappella) - 4:26

Credits and personnel

Credits for "No Matter What They Say" are taken from the single's liner notes.[9]

Recording

  • Recorded at Daddy's House Recording Studios.
  • Recorded by Stephen Dent

Personnel

  • Lil' Kim – lead vocals
  • K. Jones, D. Henson, J. Feliciano, Eric B. & Rakim, E. Archer, R. Beavers, J. Hill, P. Jovner, D. Taylor, H. Thomas, N. Rodgers, B. Edwards – songwriting
  • Darren "Limitless" Henson – producer
  • Rich Travali – mixing
  • Chris Athens – audio mastering

Charts

Release history

Release dates and formats for "No Matter What They Say"
Region Date Format(s) Label(s) Ref.
United States May 30, 2000
[19][20]
United Kingdom August 21, 2000
East West
[21]

References

  1. ^ Lil' Kim (Ft. RuPaul) – Bad Girls, retrieved 2022-06-13
  2. ^ Guzman, Isaac (2000-06-25). "Lil' Kim: Notoriously misunderstood". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 2022-06-13. ... the track has a Latin rhythm. ... This track was just so different, Latin with a hip-hop breakdown.
  3. ^ Cepeda, Raquel (2000-08-08). "Fool's Paradise". The Village Voice. Retrieved 2022-06-13. Producer Darren "Limitless" Henson borrows the Latin guitar relish of Jose Feliciano's "Esto Es el Guaguanco"
  4. ^ a b c Taylor, Chuck (2000-06-24). Reviews & Previews: Singles: RAP. Billboard. p. 30.
  5. ^ a b c "Lil' Kim Lands Meth, Puffy, More for New Video". MTV. Archived from the original on October 18, 2019.
  6. ^ "Lil' Kim retouched". Entertainment Weekly.
  7. ^ "No Matter What They Say US Promo CD". Discogs. Retrieved 2012-07-01.
  8. ^ "No Matter What They Say Europe Single". Discogs. Retrieved 2012-07-01.
  9. ^ No Matter What They Say (Cover). Lil' Kim. New York, NY: Atlantic a division of Warner Music Group, (Cat no. 7567-84697-2 ). 2000.{{cite AV media notes}}: CS1 maint: others in cite AV media (notes) (link)
  10. ^ "Official Scottish Singles Sales Chart Top 100". Official Charts Company. Retrieved February 11, 2020.
  11. ^ "Lil' Kim: Artist Chart History". Official Charts Company. Retrieved October 18, 2019.
  12. ^ "Official Dance Singles Chart Top 40". Official Charts Company. Retrieved February 11, 2020.
  13. ^ "Official Hip Hop and R&B Singles Chart Top 40". Official Charts Company. Retrieved February 11, 2020.
  14. ^ "Lil Kim Chart History (Hot 100)". Billboard. Retrieved October 18, 2019.
  15. ^ "Lil Kim Chart History (Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs)". Billboard. Retrieved October 18, 2019.
  16. ^ "Lil Kim Chart History (Hot Rap Songs)". Billboard. Retrieved October 18, 2019.
  17. ^ "Lil Kim Chart History (Rhythmic)". Billboard. Retrieved February 11, 2020.
  18. ^ Billboard (2000-12-30). Billboard - 2000 The Year In Music. Billboard Magazine. Retrieved 2014-05-08.
  19. ^ "ADDvance Notice" (PDF). Radio & Records. May 26, 2000. p. 65. Retrieved March 30, 2022 – via World Radio History.
  20. ^ "CHR/Rhythmic: Going For Adds 5/30/00" (PDF). Radio & Records. May 26, 2000. p. 84. Retrieved March 30, 2022 – via World Radio History.
  21. ^ "New Releases – For Week Starting August 21, 2000: Singles" (PDF). Music Week. London. August 19, 2000. p. 25. Retrieved March 30, 2022 – via World Radio History.
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