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Proper terminology

Please use proper terminology and change the word militants into terrorists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A420:28:41D7:21C6:E994:3C91:F713 (talk) 16:45, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

BIAS

The ENTIRE ARTICLE is EXTREMELY BIASED. When the UN comes to give Israel , or any Israeli its or his or her rights, then they must have first come to give Gaza and any Gazian its , his, her rights, first. If the Israeli infringement of UN treaties is a nuclear bomb, the Hamas infringement of UN treaties is a burning cigarette.

60.242.170.18 (talk) 21:09, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are many examples of pro-Israeli bias in this and other Wikipedia articles. Unfortunately, modern humanity so often behaves like primitive, superstitious humans of centuries past, but with higher technology multiplying death, suffering and injury many-fold. The justifications used are no better than those of primitive ancestors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.236.54 (talk) 21:34, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Accurate rank upon dischargement

According to most israeli news sources, such as this one, Gilad Shalit was dischareged from the I.D.F with the rank of Sergeant First Class (רב-סמל) and not Seargent Major (רב-סמל מתקדם) like this source states.
It is possible that the later source is mistaken due to a mistranslation of sorts.

Therefore, i suggest changeing the rank description back to "Sergeant First Class" a.k.a "Rav Samal" and "Rasal" (רב-סמל, רס"ל).

The accurate rank

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@Aroma Stylish: Can you please explain your revert? ImTheIP (talk) 11:08, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Typo

Under the Capture Header under subheader Treatment, "harsly" is said instead of "harshly". I cannot check the source due to paywall if it was initially misspelled. Einail19 (talk) 13:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, thanks. Zero^talk 02:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Citation available for instance of Shalit holding up a newspaper

Hi all—in the "Captivity" section of this article, there is a mention of a publicly-released image of him holding up a newspaper dated 14 September 2009. A citation for this is needed. I found one from the BBC, and another from NBC News, both of which refer to this event. Please add these sources when next available. Thank you for your help!

Wikipedia on! Fruitworth (talk) 00:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Proper terminology ==
-== Should the lead sentence have the word "captured"? ==
+Please use proper terminology and change the word militants into terrorists.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2A02:A420:28:41D7:21C6:E994:3C91:F713|2A02:A420:28:41D7:21C6:E994:3C91:F713]] ([[User talk:2A02:A420:28:41D7:21C6:E994:3C91:F713#top|talk]]) 16:45, 12 October 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+== BIAS ==
-It's been in place for years and is sourced. Now two editors have removed it. --[[Special:Contributions/217.79.176.158|217.79.176.158]] ([[User talk:217.79.176.158|talk]]) 12:46, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
-:Just because something has been in place for a certain amount of time does not mean it is correct. Do you have a link to a previous conversation on this talk page where consensus was established to use that wording? That is what you claimed in your edit summary. If not, I suggest you self-revert because you are violating [[WP:UNDUE]] and actually misrepresenting the source. While the source does use the word captured, it also calls it an abduction. Here are just a few more sources I found from the first page of google results about Gilad Shalit that call it an abduction. Several of them also call it a kidnapping, so if you feel that is appropriate we could add it as well. [http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/timeline-1-940-days-from-gilad-shalit-s-abduction-to-his-release-1.389452] [http://www.france24.com/en/20120309-gilad-schalit-abductor-killed-israeli-air-strike-gaza-city-militants-palestinian-qaissi] [http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-4244,00.html] [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13628212] [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13628212] Also, if you look at the body of the article, you see that the trend is to call it an abduction. The lede is supposed to be a summary of the body. [[Special:Contributions/99.237.236.218|99.237.236.218]] ([[User talk:99.237.236.218|talk]]) 16:33, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
-:Sure, here you go.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Gilad_Shalit&diff=454733845&oldid=454731241
-This has been in place since last year. No one has had a problem before. Also, Shalit was not kidnapped. He was a soldier. Not a civilian. The mainstream media doesn't call him that. Only the Israeli media does. --[[Special:Contributions/217.79.176.158|217.79.176.158]] ([[User talk:217.79.176.158|talk]]) 17:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
-:Your opinion on the matter is irrelevant and frankly I couldn't care less what you think because I don't know you. At Wikipedia we care about [[WP:RS]]. I linked you several above which used the term kidnapped. But that doesn't matter, because we are talking about captured vs abducted right now. The sources support abducted, so I suggest you self revert yourself (and if you'd like, you can add the sources that I provided above). And just an added note, you are again misrepresenting the sources which is a serious infraction of Wikipedia policies. I linked you to several [[WP:RS]] above, including for example France 24, which called it a kidnapping. France 24 is not an Israeli source. And even if it were, being Israel does not make a source any less reliable. Your personal biases do not make the rules on Wikipedia. Nowhere does [[WP:RS]] say "Reliable sources cannot be Israeli". [[Special:Contributions/99.237.236.218|99.237.236.218]] ([[User talk:99.237.236.218|talk]]) 17:04, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
-:I will do no such thing. Shalit was captured. Not abducted or kidnapped. The link I posted shows numerous articles which use the word "captured".
-http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-06-25-israeli-palestinian_N.htm
-http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/30/germany-israel-gilad-shalit
-http://articles.cnn.com/2007-08-24/world/hamas.soldier_1_hamas-fighters-hamas-militants-palestinian-prisoners?_s=PM:WORLD
-http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/4961627/Hamas-puts-captured-Israeli-soldier-on-video-tape.html
-http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/06/world/middleeast/after-shalit-israel-changing-prisoner-exchange-rules.html
-If you'd like, you can add the sources that I provided above. All of them are reliable international news media outlets. And I'm glad I don't know you. You seem to be a real piece of work. --[[Special:Contributions/217.79.176.158|217.79.176.158]] ([[User talk:217.79.176.158|talk]]) 17:10, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
-:2 of your sources here called him abducted, in addition to the source already in the article. I will be reinserting the policy-compliant wording to the article along with [[WP:RS]] backing it up. The lede is a summary of the article and must comply with [[WP:UNDUE]]. That's all. Btw, if you continue with the personal attacks, I will notify an administrator that you are not only violating [[WP:UNDUE]], but also [[WP:NPA]].  [[Special:Contributions/99.237.236.218|99.237.236.218]] ([[User talk:99.237.236.218|talk]]) 17:29, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
-:And I will revert your edit and add my sources which use the word "captured". You are biased. You insist on calling him "abducted". You also have a history of edit warring.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A99.237.236.218
---[[Special:Contributions/217.79.176.158|217.79.176.158]] ([[User talk:217.79.176.158|talk]]) 17:43, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
-http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/hamas_militants_release_captured_clsUIMUdIgJe1dHGdgKneK
-http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/11/us-israel-palestinians-shalit-idUSTRE79A58R20111011
-http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hamas-militants-release-captured-israeli-soldier
-http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ia2gIWaty1WyIuTQYTMNK6mr-uBw?docId=CNG.ed3fb8b4aaf6fe4065c6bbf0031f2bf4.361
-More sources using the word "captured". --[[Special:Contributions/217.79.176.158|217.79.176.158]] ([[User talk:217.79.176.158|talk]]) 17:45, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
-:I now noticed that there was in fact a discussion about this right above us on the talk page, and you are now edit warring against the consensus established there. Multiple other editors gave their reasons for supporting the abducted wording. [[Special:Contributions/99.237.236.218|99.237.236.218]] ([[User talk:99.237.236.218|talk]]) 18:43, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
-*'''Oppose'''. According to a quick survey, reliable sources mostly use the word "abducted" , "kidnapped", "taken hostage". The word "captured" is usually used in context of a legal operation, not in a cross-border raid. In my opinion, the words "abducted" or "taken hostage" are the most neutral . [[User:Marokwitz|Marokwitz]] ([[User talk:Marokwitz|talk]]) 06:42, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
-=BIAS=
 The ENTIRE ARTICLE is EXTREMELY BIASED.
-When the UN comes to give   Israel , or any Israeli its or his or her rights, then they  must have first come to give Gaza and any Gazian its , his, her rights, first.  If the Israeli infringement of   UN treaties is a nuclear bomb, the Hamas infringement of UN treaties is a burning ciggarette.
+When the UN comes to give   Israel , or any Israeli its or his or her rights, then they  must have first come to give Gaza and any Gazian its , his, her rights, first.  If the Israeli infringement of   UN treaties is a nuclear bomb, the Hamas infringement of UN treaties is a burning cigarette.
 [[Special:Contributions/60.242.170.18|60.242.170.18]] ([[User talk:60.242.170.18|talk]]) 21:09, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
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-== Accurate rank upon dischargement ==
+== Accurate rank upon dischargement ==
 According to most israeli news sources, such as [http://www.mako.co.il/news-military/security/Article-e7cf0b56714c631018.htm&sCh=31750a2610f26110&pId=55227376 this one], Gilad Shalit was dischareged from the I.D.F with the rank of Sergeant First Class (רב-סמל) and not Seargent Major (רב-סמל מתקדם) like [http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/shalit-promoted-to-rank-of-idf-sergeant-major-on-eve-of-release-1.390415 this] source states.
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-== Mistakes on How Gilad Shalit was treated ==
-Gilad Shalit was not treated well by his captors and that is well known, yet Wikipedia states, "On March 2013, the Jerusalem Post released information that Shalit told IDF investigators after being released.[107] He stated that he was treated well, that he watched all the World Cup games on television, and that he sat on the roof of the family he was with and looked at the Mediterranean."
-This statement is false.  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.44.51.44|66.44.51.44]] ([[User talk:66.44.51.44|talk]]) 04:16, 30 January 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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+Under the Capture Header under subheader Treatment, "harsly" is said instead of "harshly". I cannot check the source due to paywall if it was initially misspelled.  [[User:Einail19|Einail19]] ([[User talk:Einail19|talk]]) 13:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
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+:Fixed, thanks. [[User:Zero0000|Zero]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Zero0000|talk]]</small></sup> 02:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
-*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20091013115822/http://www.news.com.au:80/story/0,10117,20418523-401,00.html to http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,20418523-401,00.html
+== Citation available for instance of Shalit holding up a newspaper ==
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+Hi all—in the "Captivity" section of this article, there is a mention of a publicly-released image of him holding up a newspaper dated 14 September 2009. A citation for this is needed. I found one from the [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-13626776 BBC], and another from [https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna33136750 NBC News], both of which refer to this event. Please add these sources when next available. Thank you for your help!
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+Wikipedia on! [[User:Fruitworth|Fruitworth]] ([[User talk:Fruitworth|talk]]) 00:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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