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For archived investigations, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ItsLassieTime/Archive.

A long-term abuse case exists at Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/ItsLassieTime.

This SPI case may involve cross-wiki abuse. Please consider reporting the results on Meta; checkusers can send an email to the interwiki checkuser mailing list if required.

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-===13 August 2021===
-{{SPI case status|CUdecline }}
-====Suspected sockpuppets====
-* {{checkuser|Rdp060707}}
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-Same ''modus operandi'' as {{user|RandNetter96}} (confirmed sock) and {{user|Drill it}} (suspected sock, globally locked) - quick fire use of anti-vandalism tools with little to no communication or accountability. {{quack}}. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 09:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
-====<big>Comments by other users</big>====
-<small>''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending yourself against claims|Defending yourself against claims]].''</small>
-:Could you explain how that user is a sock of ItsLassieTime? [[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 14:49, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
-::{{u|DarkMatterMan4500}}, Because RandNetter96 was blocked as one, Drill it was globally locked by a steward with no prompting, and all three accounts have the same behaviour. Rapid-fire use of anti-vandalism tools, refusing to respond to multiple "shouldn't you have assumed good faith" messages, and adding very short ANI threads with very little context for minor incidents. This matches the behaviour mentioned in the LTA case : "{{xt|In 2017 and 2018 a pattern of making mass reverts, templating users, and (as usual) reporting users to ANI was observed}}", citing {{user|Sakaimover}} and {{user|Architect 134}} as examples. Essentially, I have spent some time explaining to these accounts why they should assume more good faith and what they can do to improve, only to ultimately find they have been blocked as a sock having bitten a number of newbies in the process. I hope I'm wrong with this one, but I don't want to go through all that discussion again. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 14:54, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
-:::Hmmmm, yes. I see what you're talking about now. I've been looking at the Long-term abuse case against ItsLassieTime, and one of them states "In 2017 and 2018 a pattern of making mass reverts, templating users, and (as usual) reporting users to ANI was observed". [[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 14:59, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
-====<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>====
-When Ritchie blocked Drill it, he tagged the account as a suspected puppet of this master. I don't know if any check was run then or since to provide technical corroboration of Ritchie's belief. I believe the previous confirmed socks of ItsLassieTime are stale. However, the suspected puppet here is not, and neither is Drill it. I am therefore requesting a CU for confirmation and to see if any other prolific editors like Rdp (75K edits!) have slipped through the cracks. Personally, I don't think it's a duck.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 12:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
-:Passerby {{clerknote}} {{noping|Architect 134}} and {{noping|Sakaimover}} are from a [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Architect 134|distinct case]] which is unrelated to ItsLassieTime. --[[User:Blablubbs|Blablubbs]] ([[User talk:Blablubbs|talk]]) 15:04, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
-{{Cudecline}}. Lack of evidence beyond "this person is doing a thing someone else did" and a veteran admin saying "I don't think it's a duck" does not make me feel like going on a fishing expedition. Ducks can be blocked without a CU check. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 15:43, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
-:{{re|Primefac}} I'm not sure what to say here. I thought that Drill it was disruptive and a suspicious editor; I did from the beginning. However, much as I appreciated Ritchie's block, I had trouble with his determination that Drill it was a sock of ILT. As far as {{U|Bsadowski1}}'s "unprompted" global lock of Drill it with the notation of "long-term abuse", I (we) have no way of knowing what Bsadowski1 meant by that; nor do I see it as a violation of anyone's privacy if that were clarified. My main reason for requesting a CU was because I didn't see enough evidence to block Rdp behaviorally, and I was concerned that they would be. Unlike Drill it, from the limited number of edits I've seen Rdp make, their editing has been constructive (75K edits are hard to review). Anyway, I'm not expecting, or even asking you to, change your mind about the decline. I'm just using the decline as a trigger for expressing my views more clearly (hopefully) on the issues.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 16:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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