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|dykentry= ... that ticket purchases for [[Witness: The Tour]] will include copies of [[Katy Perry]]'s album '''''[[Witness (Katy Perry album)|Witness]]'''''? |
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== Hey Hey Hey is a single == |
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::{{ping|Feminist}} I think {{u|IndianBio}} moved it into mainspace.--[[User:Jennica|<span style="font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;color:#FFFFFF;background-color:#F49259;letter-spacing:1pt;">Jennica</span>]]<span style="background-color:#B4DF6F">✿</span> / <sup>[[User_talk:Jennica| talk]]</sup> 15:49, 15 May 2017 (UTC) |
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:::I know, but Snuggums did the most work. [[User:Feminist|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">f</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Feminist|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">e</span>]][[User talk:Feminist|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">minist</span>]] 15:53, 15 May 2017 (UTC) |
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::::Jennica, the nomination is transcluded at [[Template:Did you know nominations/Witness (Katy Perry album)]]. Feel free to comment there before it concludes. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">edits</b>]]) 15:56, 15 May 2017 (UTC) |
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Someone please add this to Katy Perry's page and make a page for it <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/93.109.118.90|93.109.118.90]] ([[User talk:93.109.118.90#top|talk]]) 16:48, 22 December 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2017 == |
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:{{Nd}} there is no officially confirmed release date for the track. Only a music video has been released so far, which IS NOT the same thing as a single release. Also, single release (or lack thereof) isn't an automatic indicator of whether something should have an article; what matters is that a song have enough independent coverage from credible secondary sources outside of album reviews that aren't publications closely affiliated with the artist. See [[WP:Notability (music)#Songs]] for more. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 16:54, 22 December 2017 (UTC) |
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== External links modified == |
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Add Onika Maraj to the writer list for the song ''Swish Swish''. She has written her own verse. Source: [Apple Music] [Young Money Label, via mail] [[Special:Contributions/213.160.196.82|213.160.196.82]] ([[User talk:213.160.196.82|talk]]) 08:34, 19 May 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{not done}} Source? —[[User:IndianBio|<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"><b>I</b><font color="#FF033E">'''B'''</font></font>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0"><b>Poke</b></font>]] ]</sup> 09:32, 19 May 2017 (UTC) |
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Hello fellow Wikipedians, |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2017 == |
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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20170602081540/http://shop.virginemi.com/katyperry/*/Music/Witness-Exclusive-Deluxe-CD/5JG60EVW000 to http://shop.virginemi.com/katyperry/*/Music/Witness-Exclusive-Deluxe-CD/5JG60EVW000 |
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In the track listing section, add the lengths of the tracks and the producers which are given at this link here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAiUQ1sXoAAa247.jpg [[User:Beary126|Beary126]] ([[User talk:Beary126|talk]]) 05:14, 25 May 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{not done}}, a screenshot is not a reliable source. —[[User:IndianBio|<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"><b>I</b><font color="#FF033E">'''B'''</font></font>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0"><b>Poke</b></font>]] ]</sup> 05:15, 25 May 2017 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2017 == |
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I need to add the tracklist [[User:Thacker101|Thacker101]] ([[User talk:Thacker101|talk]]) 21:27, 29 May 2017 (UTC) |
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::{{ping|Thacker101}} it hasn't been officially confirmed and I know some fans got to go a listening party but we need a URL source that's reputable, aka iTunes or on Katy's site/twitter. --[[User:Jennica|<span style="font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;color:#FFFFFF;background-color:#F49259;letter-spacing:1pt;">Jennica</span>]]<span style="background-color:#B4DF6F">✿</span> / <sup>[[User_talk:Jennica| talk]]</sup> 22:03, 29 May 2017 (UTC) |
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== Swish replaced Bon Appetit as a single == |
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[http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7809493/hot-100-chart-moves-katy-perry-bon-appetit-swish-swish] _ According to Music Aggregator Billboard. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Beachey23|Beachey23]] ([[User talk:Beachey23#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Beachey23|contribs]]) 15:35, 31 May 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:That's a misleading statement; what the ref actually states is how "Swish Swish" is "the single that Capitol Records is now promoting to pop radio". It just means that her label is focusing on that song instead. Furthermore, songs can only be "replaced" or cancelled as singles BEFORE their commercial release, not after it already has taken place. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">edits</b>]]) 15:43, 31 May 2017 (UTC) |
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::Okay, makes sense. Thank you so much.--[[User:Beachey23|Beachey23]] ([[User talk:Beachey23|talk]]) 19:27, 31 May 2017 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|Fan4Life}} --[[User:Jennica|<span style="font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;color:#FFFFFF;background-color:#F49259;letter-spacing:1pt;">Jennica</span>]]<span style="background-color:#B4DF6F">✿</span> / <sup>[[User_talk:Jennica| talk]]</sup> 18:07, 8 June 2017 (UTC) |
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== External links modified (January 2018) == |
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im fan of her since 2008 and no it was not replaced |
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Hello fellow Wikipedians, |
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bon appétit was a huge flop. katy expected that the single would debut as a HOT SHOT in the hot 100 but we know that it did not and therefore its a flop |
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swish swish was released as the third single from that album <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.247.246.13|2.247.246.13]] ([[User talk:2.247.246.13#top|talk]]) 15:18, 7 July 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20170405003115/https://www.iheart.com/news/katy-perry-talks-about-how-donald-15588372/ to https://www.iheart.com/news/katy-perry-talks-about-how-donald-15588372/ |
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== Composition == |
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Good article from [http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-hoped-her-new-album-would-be-her-own-lemonade-but-its-more-homebrand-cola/news-story/b3d0e135274ac93625c8db1759e72b54 Herald Sun] can be used for developing the composition section. —[[User:IndianBio|<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"><b>I</b><font color="#FF033E">'''B'''</font></font>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0"><b>Poke</b></font>]] ]</sup> 07:22, 9 June 2017 (UTC) |
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== Please add Witness' Review from Idolator to Critical Reception section == |
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== Please add this on the section of critical reception: Idolator listed witness at number 8 on their list of the best pop albums and EP's of 2017 == |
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Dear editor(s), |
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Please add this on the section of critical reception: Idolator listed witness at number 8 on their list of the best pop albums of 2017 <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/186.14.219.173|186.14.219.173]] ([[User talk:186.14.219.173#top|talk]]) 16:17, 3 February 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Please add the Review from Idolator, which is Positive (4/5) to Critical Reception section. |
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http://www.idolator.com/7664420/katy-perry-witness-album-review |
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== Witness is platinum in Brazil == |
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Thank you :) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Basyirun90|Basyirun90]] ([[User talk:Basyirun90#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Basyirun90|contribs]]) 01:28, 10 June 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:{{done}} thank you for providing the link. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">edits</b>]]) 04:12, 11 June 2017 (UTC) |
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WITNESS HAS BEEN ALREADY CERTIFIED PLATINUM IN BRAZIL AND ALSO HAS SOLD MORE THAN 930K COPIES WORLDWIDE WITH 296K COPIES IN USA ALONE, EDID THE PAGE. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/186.14.173.20|186.14.173.20]] ([[User talk:186.14.173.20#top|talk]]) 20:01, 7 February 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Hello? Witness is platinum in Brazil already, why it is not reflected???? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/200.82.129.72|200.82.129.72]] ([[User talk:200.82.129.72#top|talk]]) 17:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Save as Draft needs a page == |
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== Composition == |
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I cannot edit the article to do it myself since, while I have been on Wikipedia for more than 30 days, I don't have 500 edits yet, but I think the section '''Composition''' needs some expansion. Album articles tend to describe all songs or at least most of them, but this one stops at track 6 ("Power") for some reason, even though ''Witness'' contains 15 songs (or even 17 on some editions). '''[[User:Bizarre Bizarre|Bizarre Bizarre]]'''<sup>''[[User talk:Bizarre Bizarre|Talk modern to me]]''</sup> 16:11, 12 May 2018 (UTC) |
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"Save as Draft" deserves a page! It's a single. Why there isn't a page about "Save as Draft"? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ira di Urabrask|Ira di Urabrask]] ([[User talk:Ira di Urabrask#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ira di Urabrask|contribs]]) </small> |
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:I agree that it's incomplete and needs more elaboration, and will probably expand it once I have enough resources and time unless someone else beats me to it. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 16:32, 12 May 2018 (UTC) |
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== "Best album"? == |
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== Witness has sold 528,000 copies in China and was certified 5x platinum == |
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Why is the album called her best album here?! Wikipedia is supposed to be objective, so that is absolutely inacceptable. [[User:NayruLink|NayruLink]] ([[User talk:NayruLink|talk]]) 14:35, 18 June 2018 (UTC) |
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As of now, Witness already sold 528,000 copies in China and was certified 5x platinum. Here is the source for the sales - https://y.qq.com/n/yqq/album/0049G4ZJ03LeoA.html |
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:Nowhere it is mentioned that ''Witness'' is her best album, where did you even read such statement? —[[User:IndianBio|<span style="font-size: small; font-family: Courier New; color: #6F00FF;"><b>I</b><b style="color: #FF033E;">B</b></span>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<b style="font-family: Tempus Sans ITC; color: #1C1CF0;">Poke</b>]] ]</sup> 15:40, 18 June 2018 (UTC) |
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The reference was already used in the article of [[List of best-selling albums in China]]. For the certification, I can't find the official site where you can see the certification of the album. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ShaneFilaner|ShaneFilaner]] ([[User talk:ShaneFilaner#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ShaneFilaner|contribs]]) 17:24, 30 June 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I'm not really familiar with the site, so can't comment on whether it is usable, but it either way seems incomplete to add a nation's sales without any knowledge of the chart. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">edits</b>]]) 03:55, 2 July 2017 (UTC) |
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::Fan source. ShaneFilaner after all this time you have no idea of what's right and reliable, please do a favour and don't add anything. —[[User:IndianBio|<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"><b>I</b><font color="#FF033E">'''B'''</font></font>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0"><b>Poke</b></font>]] ]</sup> 08:08, 3 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:::I know that are different articles, but I asked to the main user that made the list of the best-selling albums in China and he [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_best-selling_albums_in_China&diff=789043877&oldid=788804926 answered]. So technically, in his answer, is an appropriate source. [[User:Chrishonduras|<font color="Blue">Chrishonduras</font>]] [[User talk:Chrishonduras|(<font color="FF0000"><small>Diskussion</small></font>)]] 20:04, 5 July 2017 (UTC) |
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::::Please note any certification by QQ is not an official certification. Its just a vendor/retailer like how iTunes used to be for US. So any sales reported from it are for that particular vendor only which we do not report. —[[User:IndianBio|<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"><b>I</b><font color="#FF033E">'''B'''</font></font>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0"><b>Poke</b></font>]] ]</sup> 16:33, 6 July 2017 (UTC) |
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Agree with you. Even if they have a mention in IFPI, the certifications (and sales) are unofficial. Because we have an article called "best-selling albums in China", new albums gonna be add with this source and users gonna ask in their own talk pages. Probably with the time this source gonna be add in [[WP:ALBUM/AVOID|sources to avoid]]. [[User:Chrishonduras|<font color="Blue">Chrishonduras</font>]] [[User talk:Chrishonduras|(<font color="FF0000"><small>Diskussion</small></font>)]] 18:15, 6 July 2017 (UTC) |
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::If I type in a word in the search bar, it shows me articles that fit to these words. If I search Witness, it says there "Witness (Katy Perry album)" and under it "Katy Perry's best album.". I don't know how else to explain it, just type in Witness and there you have it. [[User:NayruLink|NayruLink]] ([[User talk:NayruLink|talk]]) 11:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC) |
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i m Katy perry fan since late 2008 and i admit its not official. it s impossible that the album sold 528,000 copies in china. nope. no single is known from that album <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.247.246.13|2.247.246.13]] ([[User talk:2.247.246.13#top|talk]]) 15:14, 7 July 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::No it does not show that anywhere, stop daydreaming. —[[User:IndianBio|<span style="font-size: small; font-family: Courier New; color: #6F00FF;"><b>I</b><b style="color: #FF033E;">B</b></span>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<b style="font-family: Tempus Sans ITC; color: #1C1CF0;">Poke</b>]] ]</sup> 13:04, 19 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:::: {{re|IndianBio}} It does indeed show that if you search at the www.wikipedia.org portal or on the mobile site. I'll fix it. [[User:Jc86035|Jc86035]] ([[User talk:Jc86035|talk]]) 14:44, 19 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:::::Oh its on the Portal? That's why I can't find it searching in this article. —[[User:IndianBio|<span style="font-size: small; font-family: Courier New; color: #6F00FF;"><b>I</b><b style="color: #FF033E;">B</b></span>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<b style="font-family: Tempus Sans ITC; color: #1C1CF0;">Poke</b>]] ]</sup> 14:50, 19 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:::::: {{re|IndianBio}} It was the description on the Wikidata item. {{u|NayruLink}}, see [[WP:Short descriptions]]. [[User:Jc86035|Jc86035]] ([[User talk:Jc86035|talk]]) 14:59, 19 June 2018 (UTC) |
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Daydreaming, excuse me?! I was serious and you're bitching around here, thank you very much, you were a great help! Not. Gladly it was changed now, I had no idea how to change it. [[User:NayruLink|NayruLink]] ([[User talk:NayruLink|talk]]) 16:10, 19 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2017 == |
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:It was not in ''this'' article as I explained before and the same has been corroborated by Jc86035. Hell it was not even in the en.wiki url, it was the front end portal. I can understand you have no clue regarding where you have seen it, but your opening post said you are seeing it in this article. —[[User:IndianBio|<span style="font-size: small; font-family: Courier New; color: #6F00FF;"><b>I</b><b style="color: #FF033E;">B</b></span>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<b style="font-family: Tempus Sans ITC; color: #1C1CF0;">Poke</b>]] ]</sup> 17:07, 19 June 2018 (UTC) |
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I did not write "In this article", I wrote "here" not knowing how to call the description. [[User:NayruLink|NayruLink]] ([[User talk:NayruLink|talk]]) 16:43, 12 July 2018 (UTC) |
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Hello, |
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== Commercial Performance == |
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I am requesting that an additional review be added to the 'critical reception' section of this page. The review is by Music Mania (Musicmania.org.uk) and here is the link to the review: http://musicmania.org.uk/2017/07/05/review-katy-perry-witness/ |
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I'm sure this is a contentious topic, but I think it should be mentioned that the album has been less commercially successful than either Perry or her label anticipated. The album has had poor longevity on WW charts, is her first album to not produce a #1 let alone a Top 3 in the US, and hasn't reached 1M sales WW yet. |
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The review is 3.5 stars, album has 90s vibes, is good but not purposeful pop. |
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She talks about it here: |
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<ref>http://musicmania.org.uk/2017/07/05/review-katy-perry-witness/</ref> [[Special:Contributions/82.19.199.21|82.19.199.21]] ([[User talk:82.19.199.21|talk]]) 08:33, 5 July 2017 (UTC) |
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http://popcrush.com/katy-perry-depression-details-quotes/ |
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:{{not done}}, does not seem to be a reliable source. And there are enough reviews present in the section. —[[User:IndianBio|<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"><b>I</b><font color="#FF033E">'''B'''</font></font>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0"><b>Poke</b></font>]] ]</sup> 09:59, 5 July 2017 (UTC) |
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The head of her record label, Capitol, also talked about it here: |
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== New source peaked from Taiwan == |
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https://variety.com/2018/music/news/steve-barnett-capitol-interview-katy-perry-niall-horan-1202660297/ |
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I get that with Stan culture this could be a contentious addition, but I think it's worth evaluating. [[User:Heartgears]] ([[User talk:Heartgears|talk]]) 15:38, 17 July 2018 (EST) |
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I am requesting that an additional review be added to the 'Chart' section of this page. The review is by Five music (5music.com.tw) and here is the link to the review: https://web.archive.org/web/20170709053016/https://www.5music.com.tw/CDTop.asp?top=6 <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.36.99.135|71.36.99.135]] ([[User talk:71.36.99.135#top|talk]]) 03:55, 11 July 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:{{nd}} per [[WP:Record charts#Single-vendor/single-network charts]]. That site is a retailer, not an official chart. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#454545">edits</b>]]) 04:06, 11 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:First of all, PopCrush isn't exactly a good source to use per WP:ALBUMAVOID (at least for original reporting), so only the link it leads to (Vogue Australia) would be appropriate to cite if anything. Secondly, it doesn't really matter what an artist or label expects from material commercially, only the actual results of commercial performance are worth mentioning. Third, this would technically be her second album (after ''Katy Hudson'' which was far less commercially successful than this) to not have any US top 3 songs, so it's not like this is completely new experience for her. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 20:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== “Save as Draft” single? == |
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:It under-performing according to expectations, and a third party reporting on it, would make it worthy of inclusion as long as you've got a reliable source to say it (not pop crush). That being said, probably just a vague comment about it (ie it underperformed according Perry/label/whoever - not all the trivia about it being the first album to not have have a #1 single or do this or that.) [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 19:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::Even with proper sourcing, I fail to see how one's expectations are worth noting when they're purely speculative and aren't concrete details to work with unlike the official results. It's best to just focus on what actually happened. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 20:27, 18 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:::That doesn’t make any sense. “Speculation” and “expectation” are not the same thing. Measuring expectation versus actual performance is one of the major ways of figuring whether a commercial product is considered a success or failure. Expectation is what gives sales and revenue info context. To one artist, 100,000 sold could be a breakthrough success, while to a famous veteran, it could be a devastating failure. I’m all for ignoring the random expectations of a random blogger or journalist, but Perry or her label’s expectations would be some of the most notable sales commentary in existence for her own releases. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 03:42, 19 July 2018 (UTC) |
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{{od}} Apologies for interrupting the conversation; I think that a breif sentence on Perry's depression as related to the album would be beneficial either here or on her primary Wikipedia page as it is covered by several news outlets. [[User:Aoba47|Aoba47]] ([[User talk:Aoba47|talk]]) 01:45, 20 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:Yes, I believe that’s worth mentioning too. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 18:39, 20 July 2018 (UTC) |
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Save as Draft is only a promotional single to the Adult Pop Radio. Katy never said that this song will be a single. There is no promotion or something like that. [[User:Maxgoldman12334|Maxgoldman12334]] ([[User talk:Maxgoldman12334|talk]]) 10:59, 15 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:No, we never did get an announcement from KP or her label Capitol Records. Promotion isn't required for something to be a single, though it would seem out of character for her and Capitol to never promote a single release to any extent or even say anything on the matter. As I previously noted [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASNUGGUMS&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=801571308&oldid=801537236 here], it looks like any AC release wasn't officially a single release with multiple references from this past August calling "Swish Swish" the "latest" single from this album after the supposed AC release. Unless some announcement or other solid evidence to the contrary comes along within the next week, I'll remove that listing accordingly. Either way, I don't know if calling that a promotional release is appropriate when we don't have any citations refer to it as such. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 14:00, 15 October 2017 (UTC) |
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save as draft is not an official single off "Witness." I believe it should be removed? [[User:Popfan312|Popfan312]] ([[User talk:Popfan312|talk]]) 19:00, 21 October 2017 (UTC) |
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The description that shows up when searching for the album's name has once again been manipulated. It now says "album by Katia Pérez". This is the second time now that it was changed to something wrong, which is completely unacceptable. I don't have enough skills to edit it, so could please someone correct it? Also how can this be prevented? [[User:NayruLink|NayruLink]] ([[User talk:NayruLink|talk]]) 17:50, 22 December 2018 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> <span class="template-ping">@[[User:Popfan312|Popfan312]]:</span> I see sources in the article that say it was released as a single. What are your sources that say it wasn't released? —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 19:02, 21 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:I don't see that when I go into edit mode. If this does turn up when searching for it, then that's probably something elsewhere gone wrong. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 20:53, 22 December 2018 (UTC) |
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::See the above thread. The fact that [http://exclaim.ca/music/article/katy_perry_and_nicki_minaj_unveil_star-studded_swish_swish_video ''Exclaim!''], [https://www.fuse.tv/2017/08/katy-perry-swish-swish-video-nicki-minaj-stranger-things Fuse], and even [http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7941760/katy-perry-swish-swish-video-nicki-minaj ''Billboard''] pieces from back in August call "Swish Swish" this album's "latest" single indicates that the AC release "Save as Draft" had in June wasn't an official single release. Unless somebody can provide solid evidence that it actually was or is going to be (i.e. a solo physical/digital release or perhaps a mainstream radio release) within the next 24 hours, I'll remove that as misleading. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 19:11, 21 October 2017 (UTC) |
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Witness has since sold 700, 000 copies in the US and should be changed to platinum with the updated sales also China should be added as she was certified 5x platinum there with her album selling 500,000 copied [[User:LaVozSA|LaVozSA]] ([[User talk:LaVozSA|talk]]) 10:36, 15 April 2019 (UTC) |
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:::Since nothing solid has come along since my previous comments, I'm now removing it so readers don't get the wrong idea. Feel free to restore later on IF a solo physical/digital purchase comes along or maybe a release to mainstream radios. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 20:23, 22 October 2017 (UTC) |
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: {{Re|LaVozSA}} I just checked [https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&se=Witness#search_section RIAA] and there is no evidence of US certification. I am not aware of a certifying organization in China, but if you have a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] for sales in China, they can be added. --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] ([[User talk:Muhandes|talk]]) 08:31, 21 April 2019 (UTC) |
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:::I'm restoring "Save as Draft" back as a single. The interpretation of the above sources is textbook [[WP:SYNTH]]. There's sources indicating a radio release. '''[[User:Chasewc91|Chase]]''' ([[User talk:Chasewc91|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chasewc91|contributions]]) 16:04, 28 October 2017 (UTC) |
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Her record label Capitol has confirmed witness sold over 3 million copies world wide (now 800,000) this needs to be changed also it sold over a million copies in the us [[User:KatSwiPerr|KatSwiPerr]] ([[User talk:KatSwiPerr|talk]]) 14:42, 2 June 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::The point isn't about whether any radio release occurred; it's that the AC premiere wasn't an official single release. A solo CD/download release (and probably debuting on mainstream radio) would've been a different case. I don't see how/why the linked publications would call "Swish Swish" the album's "latest" single AFTER that AC debut occurred if it was actually official. While an article saying something like "''Witness'' had three singles; 'Chained to the Rhythm', 'Bon Appétit', and 'Swish Swish'" would be nice to have, I'm not so sure WP:SYNTH applies here as that's more about ADDING conclusions into pages not inferred by references instead of removing text. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 16:27, 28 October 2017 (UTC) |
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Not 800,000 [[User:KatSwiPerr|KatSwiPerr]] ([[User talk:KatSwiPerr|talk]]) 14:43, 2 June 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::It wasn't a "premiere" though, it was an add date. And I would imagine some sources referred to "Swish Swish" as the latest single because "Save as Draft" was so under the radar that perhaps the writer wasn't even aware of it. In fact, [https://twitter.com/gthot20/status/876838145450549249?lang=en here's] one of the ''Billboard'' editors tweeting about its release to adult radio. '''[[User:Chasewc91|Chase]]''' ([[User talk:Chasewc91|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chasewc91|contributions]]) 20:11, 28 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:I would take that with a grain of salt because record companies are known to often inflate their artists' numbers for promotional purposes. Can you find anything not affiliated with Katy or her label that reports such figures? [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 16:33, 2 June 2019 (UTC) |
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== Witness Is 3x Platinum In India == |
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::::::::Because the single only went to adult contemporary and adult pop radio. It wasn't sent to top 40. '''[[User:Chasewc91|Chase]]''' ([[User talk:Chasewc91|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chasewc91|contributions]]) 01:40, 29 October 2017 (UTC) |
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Witness Sold Over 600,000 Copies In Inida And Should Be Added [[User:LaVozSA|LaVozSA]] ([[User talk:LaVozSA|talk]]) 19:01, 14 November 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::::::In case it wasn't clear before, what I'm getting at is that—especially after seeing the pieces I linked—I'm not convinced that only going to AC/adult pop radio counts as an official single release. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 02:22, 29 October 2017 (UTC) |
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https://twitter.com/KatyCharts/status/1195046246815338496?s=19 Even If You Zoom In On The Picture Of Katy You Can Clearly See 3x Platinum [[User:LaVozSA|LaVozSA]] ([[User talk:LaVozSA|talk]]) 19:05, 14 November 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::::::Why wouldn't it? It's the same as a single only going to urban radio, or only country radio. Top 40 isn't the only radio format. '''[[User:Chasewc91|Chase]]''' ([[User talk:Chasewc91|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chasewc91|contributions]]) 17:52, 29 October 2017 (UTC) |
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== Urban Outfitters Vinyl Cover == |
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:::::::::::Because mainstream radio tends to be the most clear cut form of single release of all radio formats in that they don't simply play tracks just because they have access to the parent album. Also, the lack of solo purchase (not counting downloads/streams as an album track) made me have my doubts, and it's best to have artist and/or label confirmation on whether something is being released as a single. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 18:03, 29 October 2017 (UTC) |
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I was reading the talk page on ''[[Smile (Katy Perry album)|Smile]]'' and it was asked if the vinyl cover of the album should be included in the article. It was brought up that [[Lana Del Rey]]'s ''[[Ultraviolence (album)|Ultraviolence]]'', ''[[Honeymoon (Lana Del Rey album)|Honeymoon]]'' and ''[[Norman Fucking Rockwell!]]'' albums include their respective [[Urban Outfitters]]-exclusive covers in their articles. There is an Urban Outfitters-exclusive cover for ''Witness'', and thought it should be included in this article as well. [[User:Playking616|Playking616]] ([[User talk:Playking616|talk]]) 00:45, 10 August 2020 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::Any radio format, including mainstream radio, can and does play any song they choose to. Taylor Swift's "Ready for It" debuted on top 40 radio the same week it was released, despite not being released as an official single until recently. Katy Perry's "Dark Horse" got unsolicited airplay which prompted its single release. We have sources indicating the song was released to radio, there's no reason to just ignore those. '''[[User:Chasewc91|Chase]]''' ([[User talk:Chasewc91|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chasewc91|contributions]]) 22:46, 29 October 2017 (UTC) |
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{{outdent}} To "just ignore" them implies they were never even looked at let alone examined against anything. Seeing the aforementioned "latest" single dubbings for "Swish Swish" after AC release is what have me even more doubts than I already had about it being official when there wasn't any artist/label confirmation or an individual physical/digital release. It made me take prior statements with a grain of salt. As for "Dark Horse" and "Ready for It?", something to keep in mind for those other tracks are that they each had their own digital release independent of parent albums, regardless of airplay (albiet as promotional singles at first). I perhaps should've been more explicit in that "album track" also excluded promotional single releases, and that conventional radio doesn't nearly as often (if ever) play things that are simply album cuts as official or even promotional singles. More obscure stations are more likely to do so from what I know. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 23:48, 29 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:Pop radio is no different than any other radio format aside from the style of music played. Every radio station has the choice to play singles, promotional tracks, or deep album cuts. Most go with singles for business reasons, i.e. it attracts the most listeners. And I don't think the "Swish Swish" as the latest disproves anything, only suggests that "Save as Draft" was such a low-key release that even some writers weren't aware of it. You can open an RFC if you want but I don't see very many other ways to interpret the information other than that "Save as Draft" was clearly serviced to a specific radio format. '''[[User:Chasewc91|Chase]]''' ([[User talk:Chasewc91|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chasewc91|contributions]]) 16:13, 30 October 2017 (UTC) |
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[[User:Juanpabloalal15|Juanpabloalal15]] ([[User talk:Juanpabloalal15|talk]]) 16:37, 12 August 2020 (UTC) |
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Hey Hey Hey and Save As Draft are not official singles |
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:{{not done}} [[Hey Hey Hey]] was released in Italy; [[Save as Draft]] was released to American radio. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|©]] [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color: #4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color: #6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<big style="color: #555555;">™</big>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-3]]). 16:44, 12 August 2020 (UTC) |
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== Metacritic == |
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::Even if there was a specific radio release, I wouldn't go so far to say it was a full-fledged single release in the way that those released to mainstream radio are or songs individually serviced to retailers (whether online or in person). [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 16:40, 30 October 2017 (UTC) |
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Apparently a recent review came in and now the current score for the album is 53. [[User:Froyo Fox126|Froyo Fox126]] ([[User talk:Froyo Fox126|talk]]) 16:56, 20 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:::Radio add dates are for single releases only. With digital downloads already in place, multiple songs can be for single releases. "...Ready for It?" was still a single when it went for official radio adds, and "Gorgeous" was changed to a promo single when the radio adds date was pulled the plug from it. —[[User:IndianBio|<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"><b>I</b><font color="#FF033E">'''B'''</font></font>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0"><b>Poke</b></font>]] ]</sup> 05:19, 1 November 2017 (UTC) |
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Why have the certifications of China, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador and Central America been included when it has been published by a page whose the source is a random tweet without any credibility? |
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:{{Nd}} there is no officially confirmed release date for the track. Only a music video has been released so far, which IS NOT the same thing as a single release. Also, single release (or lack thereof) isn't an automatic indicator of whether something should have an article; what matters is that a song have enough independent coverage from credible secondary sources outside of album reviews that aren't publications closely affiliated with the artist. See [[WP:Notability (music)#Songs]] for more. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 16:54, 22 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:I added them. I re-verified information and you're right. [[:es:Radio Planeta|Radio Planeta]] is the third-party reference but they're citing a tweet which seems unreliable. I already delete that info. Thanks, --[[User:Apoxyomenus|Apoxyomenus]] ([[User talk:Apoxyomenus|talk]]) 20:32, 2 April 2021 (UTC) |
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I'm to link roulette song to its proper article thank you [[Special:Contributions/112.206.145.9|112.206.145.9]] ([[User talk:112.206.145.9|talk]]) 07:15, 6 October 2021 (UTC) |
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== Please add this on the section of critical reception: Idolator listed witness at number 8 on their list of the best pop albums and EP's of 2017 == |
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== Witness is platinum in Brazil == |
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WITNESS HAS BEEN ALREADY CERTIFIED PLATINUM IN BRAZIL AND ALSO HAS SOLD MORE THAN 930K COPIES WORLDWIDE WITH 296K COPIES IN USA ALONE, EDID THE PAGE. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/186.14.173.20|186.14.173.20]] ([[User talk:186.14.173.20#top|talk]]) 20:01, 7 February 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Hello? Witness is platinum in Brazil already, why it is not reflected???? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/200.82.129.72|200.82.129.72]] ([[User talk:200.82.129.72#top|talk]]) 17:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Composition == |
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I cannot edit the article to do it myself since, while I have been on Wikipedia for more than 30 days, I don't have 500 edits yet, but I think the section '''Composition''' needs some expansion. Album articles tend to describe all songs or at least most of them, but this one stops at track 6 ("Power") for some reason, even though ''Witness'' contains 15 songs (or even 17 on some editions). '''[[User:Bizarre Bizarre|Bizarre Bizarre]]'''<sup>''[[User talk:Bizarre Bizarre|Talk modern to me]]''</sup> 16:11, 12 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:I agree that it's incomplete and needs more elaboration, and will probably expand it once I have enough resources and time unless someone else beats me to it. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 16:32, 12 May 2018 (UTC) |
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== "Best album"? == |
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Why is the album called her best album here?! Wikipedia is supposed to be objective, so that is absolutely inacceptable. [[User:NayruLink|NayruLink]] ([[User talk:NayruLink|talk]]) 14:35, 18 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:Nowhere it is mentioned that ''Witness'' is her best album, where did you even read such statement? —[[User:IndianBio|<span style="font-size: small; font-family: Courier New; color: #6F00FF;"><b>I</b><b style="color: #FF033E;">B</b></span>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<b style="font-family: Tempus Sans ITC; color: #1C1CF0;">Poke</b>]] ]</sup> 15:40, 18 June 2018 (UTC) |
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Just checked the album liner notes. While they list Rudnick's name for "front and back cover art direction", I found no mention of Ffrench there, so I'm not sure how to best implement that. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 15:58, 6 May 2023 (UTC) |
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If I type in a word in the search bar, it shows me articles that fit to these words. If I search Witness, it says there "Witness (Katy Perry album)" and under it "Katy Perry's best album.". I don't know how else to explain it, just type in Witness and there you have it. [[User:NayruLink|NayruLink]] ([[User talk:NayruLink|talk]]) 11:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC) |
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Hey Hey Hey is a single
[edit]Someone please add this to Katy Perry's page and make a page for it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.109.118.90 (talk) 16:48, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
- Not done there is no officially confirmed release date for the track. Only a music video has been released so far, which IS NOT the same thing as a single release. Also, single release (or lack thereof) isn't an automatic indicator of whether something should have an article; what matters is that a song have enough independent coverage from credible secondary sources outside of album reviews that aren't publications closely affiliated with the artist. See WP:Notability (music)#Songs for more. Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:54, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
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Please add this on the section of critical reception: Idolator listed witness at number 8 on their list of the best pop albums and EP's of 2017
[edit]Please add this on the section of critical reception: Idolator listed witness at number 8 on their list of the best pop albums of 2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.14.219.173 (talk) 16:17, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Witness is platinum in Brazil
[edit]WITNESS HAS BEEN ALREADY CERTIFIED PLATINUM IN BRAZIL AND ALSO HAS SOLD MORE THAN 930K COPIES WORLDWIDE WITH 296K COPIES IN USA ALONE, EDID THE PAGE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.14.173.20 (talk) 20:01, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Hello? Witness is platinum in Brazil already, why it is not reflected???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.82.129.72 (talk) 17:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Composition
[edit]I cannot edit the article to do it myself since, while I have been on Wikipedia for more than 30 days, I don't have 500 edits yet, but I think the section Composition needs some expansion. Album articles tend to describe all songs or at least most of them, but this one stops at track 6 ("Power") for some reason, even though Witness contains 15 songs (or even 17 on some editions). Bizarre BizarreTalk modern to me 16:11, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- I agree that it's incomplete and needs more elaboration, and will probably expand it once I have enough resources and time unless someone else beats me to it. Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:32, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
"Best album"?
[edit]Why is the album called her best album here?! Wikipedia is supposed to be objective, so that is absolutely inacceptable. NayruLink (talk) 14:35, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Nowhere it is mentioned that Witness is her best album, where did you even read such statement? —IB [ Poke ] 15:40, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- If I type in a word in the search bar, it shows me articles that fit to these words. If I search Witness, it says there "Witness (Katy Perry album)" and under it "Katy Perry's best album.". I don't know how else to explain it, just type in Witness and there you have it. NayruLink (talk) 11:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- No it does not show that anywhere, stop daydreaming. —IB [ Poke ] 13:04, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- @IndianBio: It does indeed show that if you search at the www.wikipedia.org portal or on the mobile site. I'll fix it. Jc86035 (talk) 14:44, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oh its on the Portal? That's why I can't find it searching in this article. —IB [ Poke ] 14:50, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- @IndianBio: It was the description on the Wikidata item. NayruLink, see WP:Short descriptions. Jc86035 (talk) 14:59, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oh its on the Portal? That's why I can't find it searching in this article. —IB [ Poke ] 14:50, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- @IndianBio: It does indeed show that if you search at the www.wikipedia.org portal or on the mobile site. I'll fix it. Jc86035 (talk) 14:44, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- No it does not show that anywhere, stop daydreaming. —IB [ Poke ] 13:04, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- If I type in a word in the search bar, it shows me articles that fit to these words. If I search Witness, it says there "Witness (Katy Perry album)" and under it "Katy Perry's best album.". I don't know how else to explain it, just type in Witness and there you have it. NayruLink (talk) 11:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Daydreaming, excuse me?! I was serious and you're bitching around here, thank you very much, you were a great help! Not. Gladly it was changed now, I had no idea how to change it. NayruLink (talk) 16:10, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- It was not in this article as I explained before and the same has been corroborated by Jc86035. Hell it was not even in the en.wiki url, it was the front end portal. I can understand you have no clue regarding where you have seen it, but your opening post said you are seeing it in this article. —IB [ Poke ] 17:07, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
I did not write "In this article", I wrote "here" not knowing how to call the description. NayruLink (talk) 16:43, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Commercial Performance
[edit]I'm sure this is a contentious topic, but I think it should be mentioned that the album has been less commercially successful than either Perry or her label anticipated. The album has had poor longevity on WW charts, is her first album to not produce a #1 let alone a Top 3 in the US, and hasn't reached 1M sales WW yet.
She talks about it here: http://popcrush.com/katy-perry-depression-details-quotes/
The head of her record label, Capitol, also talked about it here: https://variety.com/2018/music/news/steve-barnett-capitol-interview-katy-perry-niall-horan-1202660297/
I get that with Stan culture this could be a contentious addition, but I think it's worth evaluating. User:Heartgears (talk) 15:38, 17 July 2018 (EST)
- First of all, PopCrush isn't exactly a good source to use per WP:ALBUMAVOID (at least for original reporting), so only the link it leads to (Vogue Australia) would be appropriate to cite if anything. Secondly, it doesn't really matter what an artist or label expects from material commercially, only the actual results of commercial performance are worth mentioning. Third, this would technically be her second album (after Katy Hudson which was far less commercially successful than this) to not have any US top 3 songs, so it's not like this is completely new experience for her. Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- It under-performing according to expectations, and a third party reporting on it, would make it worthy of inclusion as long as you've got a reliable source to say it (not pop crush). That being said, probably just a vague comment about it (ie it underperformed according Perry/label/whoever - not all the trivia about it being the first album to not have have a #1 single or do this or that.) Sergecross73 msg me 19:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- Even with proper sourcing, I fail to see how one's expectations are worth noting when they're purely speculative and aren't concrete details to work with unlike the official results. It's best to just focus on what actually happened. Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:27, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- That doesn’t make any sense. “Speculation” and “expectation” are not the same thing. Measuring expectation versus actual performance is one of the major ways of figuring whether a commercial product is considered a success or failure. Expectation is what gives sales and revenue info context. To one artist, 100,000 sold could be a breakthrough success, while to a famous veteran, it could be a devastating failure. I’m all for ignoring the random expectations of a random blogger or journalist, but Perry or her label’s expectations would be some of the most notable sales commentary in existence for her own releases. Sergecross73 msg me 03:42, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- Even with proper sourcing, I fail to see how one's expectations are worth noting when they're purely speculative and aren't concrete details to work with unlike the official results. It's best to just focus on what actually happened. Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:27, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Apologies for interrupting the conversation; I think that a breif sentence on Perry's depression as related to the album would be beneficial either here or on her primary Wikipedia page as it is covered by several news outlets. Aoba47 (talk) 01:45, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I believe that’s worth mentioning too. Sergecross73 msg me 18:39, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
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Brief article description vandalism
[edit]The description that shows up when searching for the album's name has once again been manipulated. It now says "album by Katia Pérez". This is the second time now that it was changed to something wrong, which is completely unacceptable. I don't have enough skills to edit it, so could please someone correct it? Also how can this be prevented? NayruLink (talk) 17:50, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- I don't see that when I go into edit mode. If this does turn up when searching for it, then that's probably something elsewhere gone wrong. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 20:53, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Changes Needed
[edit]Witness has since sold 700, 000 copies in the US and should be changed to platinum with the updated sales also China should be added as she was certified 5x platinum there with her album selling 500,000 copied LaVozSA (talk) 10:36, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- @LaVozSA: I just checked RIAA and there is no evidence of US certification. I am not aware of a certifying organization in China, but if you have a reliable source for sales in China, they can be added. --Muhandes (talk) 08:31, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
CHANGES NEEDED
[edit]Her record label Capitol has confirmed witness sold over 3 million copies world wide (now 800,000) this needs to be changed also it sold over a million copies in the us KatSwiPerr (talk) 14:42, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Not 800,000 KatSwiPerr (talk) 14:43, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
- I would take that with a grain of salt because record companies are known to often inflate their artists' numbers for promotional purposes. Can you find anything not affiliated with Katy or her label that reports such figures? SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 16:33, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Witness Is 3x Platinum In India
[edit]Witness Sold Over 600,000 Copies In Inida And Should Be Added LaVozSA (talk) 19:01, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/KatyCharts/status/1195046246815338496?s=19 Even If You Zoom In On The Picture Of Katy You Can Clearly See 3x Platinum LaVozSA (talk) 19:05, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Urban Outfitters Vinyl Cover
[edit]I was reading the talk page on Smile and it was asked if the vinyl cover of the album should be included in the article. It was brought up that Lana Del Rey's Ultraviolence, Honeymoon and Norman Fucking Rockwell! albums include their respective Urban Outfitters-exclusive covers in their articles. There is an Urban Outfitters-exclusive cover for Witness, and thought it should be included in this article as well. Playking616 (talk) 00:45, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hey Hey Hey and Save As Draft are not official singles
- Not done Hey Hey Hey was released in Italy; Save as Draft was released to American radio. © Tbhotch™ (en-3). 16:44, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Metacritic
[edit]Apparently a recent review came in and now the current score for the album is 53. Froyo Fox126 (talk) 16:56, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Certifications
[edit]Why have the certifications of China, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador and Central America been included when it has been published by a page whose the source is a random tweet without any credibility?
X2franklop (talk) 20:16, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- I added them. I re-verified information and you're right. Radio Planeta is the third-party reference but they're citing a tweet which seems unreliable. I already delete that info. Thanks, --Apoxyomenus (talk) 20:32, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Issue on Producer(s) list in the infobox
[edit]Apparently, under producers section in the album infobox, I can see there are lot of additional, vocals and co- producers. As per the wiki rules, these producers shouldn't be added into this list except main producers. YOÜ AND I baby (talk) 14:27, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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I'm to link roulette song to its proper article thank you 112.206.145.9 (talk) 07:15, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — LauritzT (talk) 07:21, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roulette_(Katy_Perry) Jayceeperry20 (talk) 09:27, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
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[edit]David Rudnick is credited on Wikipedia as having been responsible for the art direction on this album, but he's just tweeted that the person who actually art directed it is Isamaya Ffrench:
https://twitter.com/David_Rudnick/status/1654822122148036609
Can this please be corrected? Smells like content (talk) 12:40, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
Just checked the album liner notes. While they list Rudnick's name for "front and back cover art direction", I found no mention of Ffrench there, so I'm not sure how to best implement that. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 15:58, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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